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15th October 2014, 16:03 at 4:03 pm #279298
Very similar to the original layout but with a few changes.
T1 – unchanged.
T2 – Slightly extended compared to original T2 to remove the kink that everyone cut, whilst remaining tight enough to count as a proper braking zone.
T3 – Entry slightly tighter that originally due to nature of T2, but it’s pretty much the same.
T4 – Originally where T4,5 would be but it’s now like a mirror of T3 just the other way.
T5 – Tighter than what T6,7 were, relatively straight forward corner. The corner itself is need to slow the cars down, and add an overtaking chance.
T6 – Slight kink after T5 but far enough down the road to not be cut like T2 on original track.
T7 – Open radius corner instead of the original T8,9. It’s also quite a long corner and I imagine quite tricky.
T8 – Opened up the original T10, should make it easier for cars to follow through there to open up overtakes. T8 kind of includes what was T11 (it’s sort of like one large corner/straight now).
T9,10,11 – Same as original T12,13,14
T12,13 – Changed original T15,16 to become a fast and quite flowing, open radius left,right chicane. Should be quite tricky to get right, and watching cars through there could be quite fun.
T14,15 – Opened up T14 (originally T17), making it faster and quite difficult and also making the braking zone into T15 quite difficult as you’re turning, so whilst T15 isn’t really that spectacular, the entrance to it makes it so.
I think the redesign helps it become more flowing, faster but also better to watch the cars through and also should improve racing realistically.
Also, Tilke lied when he said there was no space to do any different design. I can’t understand his need to use 90 degree corners, other than maybe he has a piece of tracing paper with a number of different corner designs on and he just ends up using the corner of the paper instead.14th October 2014, 8:44 at 8:44 am #278665
@vmaxmuffin So, I guess this place has potentially finally died out again. You can have your go though if you want considering you’ve technically won this one. Nice additions by the way, I did something very similar with Fagnes, though my Bus Stop was different (quite a bit). I like the tightening on Eau Rouge, making it a corner once again, same with Blanchimont, though I imagine it may reduce overtaking into Bus Stop, especially with its shorter distance to it now. Still would prefer it that way.6th October 2014, 10:55 at 10:55 am #277317
For some reason, I can’t see notifications from this thread, as in it doesn’t appear in the main F1 thread anymore. No idea why.
But anyway, thanks @vmaxmuffin . I did try to make it as realistic as possible whilst not being boring. I think there are enough interesting corners.
So, I’m a fan of modifying tracks to make them better. Normally when this challenge comes about people change really bad tracks into good ones. What I want to see this time is a modification to your favourite, current, F1 circuit.
– Maximum increase/decrease in length is 10% of original length
– Pit-straight must stay the same.
As you say, a broader challenge may be good so, here it is. A go. You’ll have until Friday practice again.30th September 2014, 16:46 at 4:46 pm #276348
4.341km, 16 corner clock-wise circuit.
T1 is a quick right hander (with the potential to be tightened should it need to be) which starts off what would be a very fast first sector. T2,3,4 come next, in a quick left,right,left complex at very high speed (like Maggots at Silverstone but without getting tighter). This also has the potential to be tightened should it need to be. This leads onto a straight which ends up at T5, a relatively trick double apex, long, medium speed hairpin.
After this, T6 comes up after another short/medium straight. This is a relatively simple right hander, though not as tight as a traditional street circuit 90. Then there’s a run down to T7, a very long and open corner, taken at relatively high speed. It’d be tricky to get right but there’s also enough space for run off. This leads onto another short/medium straight (this has been the case for the last 4 corners), which moves down to T8, a tight left hander onto a slightly tighter section of the circuit. This is a slightly more scenic part of the track. A quick right hander of T9 follows which would be flat at the current speed, into T10 a slow speed hairpin.
A curving straight (classified as T11) then leads into the slowest corner of the circuit. On the exit there is a left hander of T13. This complex of two corners should be difficult with the new turbos. There is then a short straight to another hairpin of T14, which leads to another short straight onto T15, a fairly standard 90 right. The final corner comes after a short straight and would be a potentially flat, though maybe not, difficult to get right with the lower down-force of the cars.30th September 2014, 12:39 at 12:39 pm #276343
@vmaxmuffin Good point on the broad challenges, will remember that for if I’m next on.
Also, I do already have a track for this South Korean GP as I half guessed this would be the next challenge, plus when the article popped up I thought it’d be fun to do. :P So if it appears quite early, that’s the reason.29th September 2014, 12:27 at 12:27 pm #276242
My apologies, I hadn’t realised you’d gone @vmaxmuffin I must have missed a day and not seen it pop-up. Anyway, I think I’m going to have to give it to you @vmaxmuffin :) It has some very interesting corners which I think F1 drivers would find difficult, and it’s a nice track given the corner limit. Also, kudos on finding a place within a city to build a purpose built track, bonus points :P
So, over to you!25th September 2014, 12:45 at 12:45 pm #276054
Like I say, I wont be too strict on it, so if you’ve got one coming I’ll wait. Might as well with only one other entry.22nd September 2014, 0:12 at 12:12 am #275716
Thanks @chingh :) I’m hoping we can have a few of the old regulars back to do some of these, we’ve been lacking entries and it is disappointing. Understandable with the lack of time some people have, but still. :)
So my challenge:
A new track is needed to be designed in any country that currently already has an F1 circuit on the calender. This new track is to be designed to be better than the other circuit to take the honours of hosting that nations GP.
– Must be a completely purpose built circuit.
– Must either be between 3.8-4.5km or 6-6.7km.
– No straight must be entered by a corner tighter than 100 degrees.
– For the 3.8-4.5km circuits there must either be two 700-800m straights or one 0.9-1.1km straight. For the 6-6.7km circuits, there must either be three 700-900m straights or two 0.9-1.1km straights. There cannot be more than this amount.
– 3.8-4.5km circuits can have a maximum of 12 corners, 6-6.7km circuits can have a maximum of 19 corners.
– As always, no more than two sharp 90 degree corners. 90 degree corners are allowed so long as they are relatively open (e.g. T12 at Bahrain).
– A pit-lane must be designed.
Good luck to all. Apologies for the delay in creating the challenge.
Entries will close on Friday 8pm UK time, or basically around 5 days from now, I wont be too strict on it. Hoping for more people to have a go! Even if you haven’t done it before, just have a go, it’s a bit of fun! :)13th September 2014, 10:49 at 10:49 am #274521
3.86km anti-clockwise circuit, 16 turns.
Turn 1 is the left hander at the first marker. It then runs into 2-3 which is a quick sweeping right left chicane. T4-5 are like a mirror of 2-3, but 5 ends quickly into T6. With the way the circuit works here, it should provide a good overtaking spot, with cars trying to keep tight, essentially leaving the optimum line for T5 to get a better T6.
T7 follows quickly after T6 and then runs into a jink left for T8, which would be flat at the speeds they’d be travelling out of the corner. T9 is a mirror of T8 and also should be flat. T10 is a quick left hander that would be tricky with the slightly low grip FE cars. T11 is a really long right hander, more like a straight than a corner. T12 is essentially the same corner as T10, and should provide some challenge.
After this, T13 would be a sharp corner, but it would be quite open. After that, a curve-straight runs down into T14-15, which is similar to T9-10 at Bahrain. It then opens up to the final corner. It’s quite an open corner, which should help overtaking opportunities into T1.6th September 2014, 15:18 at 3:18 pm #273683
3.9km (increase of 800m, uses about 1.7km/55-60% of the original circuit) clockwise circuit, 13-15 corners (depends on how you count chicanes). Pit lane is basically the same, though the entry would be different (same place, but now on the outside of the final corner).
The track starts the exact same as it always has, down the main straight/curve, however it is now extended towards the end by 100m. Turn 2 becomes a right hander instead of a left, and then a short straight into another right hander, but quite an open right hander which should allow a lot of speed onto the back straight.
The back straight starts with a fast left sweep into a right sweep which should both be flat. After the right sweep the circuit rejoins the current circuit’s back straight and runs down following the current circuit until it gets to what was originally the penultimate corner.
Here, instead of taking the final corner which would have been the awful hairpin, it now opens up to a short straight/curve and then there’s a right hander (about as tight as T9 at Mid Ohio).
It then opens onto a relatively long straight which has a lot of flat out tiny curves to it. The quick chicane just after the Yacht Club may not be flat, but it’s not slow either. The straight the continues to a quick flat right king and then into a right hand hairpin, tight entry, open exit. There is then a quick sweeping right left, flat out, and then a straight to the final two corners. Two 90 lefts end the circuit (similar to how Sochi ends, though slightly tighter and the other way).
The main straight/curve is still about the same length because whilst it’s extended by 100m at the end, it’s shortened by 100m at the start. The corner onto it is however slightly quicker, so it should make overtaking easier into T2.5th September 2014, 18:29 at 6:29 pm #273500
Close contest between the two last entries, and I’ve decided to go for @vmaxmuffin ‘s entry. This was probably the hardest choice of track I’ve had to make yet. It does look indeed very la Sarthe like.
Well, over to you again :P3rd September 2014, 22:17 at 10:17 pm #273249
3 nice entries so far, would love to see more! :) Keep them coming!2nd September 2014, 15:04 at 3:04 pm #2731521st September 2014, 12:26 at 12:26 pm #272977
@vmaxmuffin Many thanks! :) Also, that bit that had two different levels of road, is that the bit that’s between the 1 and 2km markers, because it’s such a short area, I thought it’d be okay. :P
Anyways, my challenge. So, we all hate Abu Double, at least I think most of us do anyway. But people say that if there is going to be a double points race, it should at least be double to the length.
So with that said, you are to design a replacement circuit for Abu Dhabi, but about twice as long as Abu Dhabi, so that would be somewhere between 10km-12km. This track must be built in Abu Dhabi. The original circuit can be used with additions added to it, but you can also completely flatten it should you wish.
– Between 10-12km in length.
– Maximum of 2 sharp 90 degree corners. Similar to what I’ve done before, corners that are 90 degrees but are not sharp do no count towards this counter.
– Straights must be no longer than 1km.
– There must be at least 3 straights (these are allowed to be curved).
– All straights must start with a corner atleast 90 degrees or more.
– A pit-lane must be designed.
Entries will close at sometime on Friday around the Friday practice sessions. Good luck. :)28th August 2014, 11:52 at 11:52 am #272515
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6420643 In that case, here’s the one I did which worked. :)
4.4km clockwise/anticlockwise circuit, 13 corners. It starts just before the small turn to the right which would be flat, with the start finish straight being situated right below the wall of where the back part of the circuit it. Then comes the 90 left which is essentially T1. It then runs down the twisty straight, with bends in it which would be flat, but curved enough to count them as corners.
You then get the run down into the quite open hairpin, which leads onto a straight onto a relatively open 90 right. This adds a bit of variety as usually a straight is followed by a hard braking zone. This would be more like Stowe at Silverstone, but slightly quicker. There is then a quick run down to the next hard braking zone, which based on the previous corner, could be an overtaking opportunity.
After this, there is a really long straight which then jinks off right at the end (flat) and ends up at a hard braking zone 90 right, followed relatively quickly by another 90 right, but this one is slightly more open which should make entering the pit straight faster and give more opportunities for an overtake into T2. The final corner is a flat right which leads back onto the main part of the pit straight, right next to a wall of where the track is just before hand.
Obviously a defining feature of this track is a street circuit that does a figure 8.
The roads wouldn’t need widening for the most part, just having the middle grassy parts removed for tarmac. The hairpin of T5/6 would definitely need widening, but there is easily enough space to do it. The only other issue is coming down at the end of the longest straight, the jink to the right at the end goes down a quite thin road. This could be widened, but it would require the entire removing of the hill to the right as the track goes, which isn’t impossible. No buildings would need destroying, but a couple of walls would need to be removed in this section.