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  • #290871
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    Thanks @chingh It was certainly a different challenge and I enjoyed that!

    In stark contrast to a really long F1 circuit being added to the calendar, a really short one is going to be added as well. The lap count wants to be around 100 laps, so the circuit must be between 3km and 3.2km. It’s not much leeway, but the circuit is quite small so it shouldn’t be too bad.

    Rules:

    – Between 3km and 3.2km.
    – Can be purpose built or street.
    – It must be suitable for F1, so nothing ridiculously tight to add corners. It’s a shorter circuit, so less corners are to be expected.
    – Must include a pit-lane.

    Deadline is sometime over the weekend! Good luck.

    #290606
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    @andae23

    And what bugs me most about the current state is that we have some incredibly complex technology, but FOM and FIA put in very little effort to promote it and leave everything to the teams.

    This gets to me as well. I think these are by far some of the most, if not the most technologically advanced F1 cars we’ve ever had, yet you talk to a ‘casual fan’ (I hate using that term), they probably wouldn’t care or take notice which is a shame. And the reason I’d give is because they are happy enough with the racing and the show with the tyres (which I personally also enjoy) and the DRS (which I do not) giving them plenty of overtakes and drama. Currently, F1 seems to be taking a lot of different turns that you’re right, no one seems to know where they want it to go. You get some really great descisions, like these new engines, the reduction of downforce, and soon the potential for wider tyres (all things I consider sporting changes which are good for all), but also introduce DRS, double points and things like that to ‘spice up the show.’ I don’t get it. But then I still absolutely love F1 and found last season one of the most entertaining of all time…

    F1’s weird.

    #290600
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    @mfreire I assume you’ve linked the wrong track?

    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6517636

    Oslo Norway Circuit, Anti-clockwise, and I think 45 corners. I know the 4km straight isn’t technically straight, but it’s still 100% flat, plus both lanes would be used to make it extremely wide. Other than that, the road at the end of the straight would be converted to a temporary banking (so the left hander exiting the 4km straight) and also the right hander section of that as well would be converted to a temporary banking (I’m sure with today’s technology it’s not out of the question to be able to be done safely and well).

    A quick note. When the circuit comes to the first roundabout, instead of following it as it shows it would just go straight over it. I wasn’t really paying attention to what I was doing. Also, this same thing is to be applied to the bit of circuit that is at the 10km mark exactly. It shouldn’t follow the roundabout, it should go straight over it.

    As for the rest of the track, it is essentially made up of three types of corners. The most of them are quick 3 part chicanes and high speed sweepers following the road, and then on top of that there are a few tight a twisty bits.

    I think the most unrealistic section of the circuit is probably from the 6km mark to the 8km mark. It’s a bit high speed for the bends and the thinness of the road. Assuming the roads could be widened I don’t think it’d be a huge issue, but still maybe it wouldn’t work. I like that bit though. Maybe a way to slow the cars down before the bridge would make it fine, but I couldn’t think of anything at the time, perhaps using some of the grassy area just above the circuit just before it hits the bridge.

    #290279
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    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6513616

    London Street Circuit

    Anti-Clockwise, 11 corners, 2.5784km

    I was originally going to do a circuit around the Olympic Park as I think it would work well with FE, but I’ve done so many different circuits around there I thought I’d just try something different.

    Anyway, the circuit is relatively simple, as I think all FE circuits are. I’d like to think it would produce some good racing and some nice shots of the cars going through some of the high speed corners.

    #290187
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    @craig-o Ah, many thanks. That’ll be interesting still. Do you think that hairpin is as tight or tighter than the hotel chicane?

    #290185
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    Well, that was a whole lot of fun and confusion. Shame the SC was a bit of a mess, but it’s to be expected sometimes.

    Out of curiosity, does anyone know when we’ll find the track layouts for either of the last three races? Or whether they already exist. I’d love to see what they’ve come up with for Berlin and London. Also will be interesting to see how much of Monaco they do. Full circuit you’d think, right?

    #290177
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    I just watched the onboard with Daniel Abt on YouTube. The track looks awesome. It looks tight in some areas, it’s got a great scenery and then the fast end to the lap (or start of the lap if you count the finish line as the start as well) is incredible. Looking forward to it a lot, hoping to see some close racing.

    #290127
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    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6509159

    5.7858km circuit, anti-clockwise, 24 corners (though a lot of these are flat out curves on a straight rather than actual corners, it’s more like 20/21 actual corners).

    So T1 would be the quick left hand sweep. The start line would be only 100 meters before it so the cars wont be going very fast through it. T2 follows after quite a long straight. T2 is a little bit of an odd corner. It’s relatively fast for a first proper corner. It’s quite open, but it should be okay. There is also quite a lot of room for run off so it should be okay on safety grounds too. T3 follows after this, a bog standard 90 degree left hander (the only way really to go). Straight after than is T4, a kink to the right which hopefully makes putting the power down difficult with the change of direction. T5 also follows quickly, a left hand hairpin, which would be quite tight. After this, there is a short run to what would be T6, a slight curve on a straight. There is then a run down to T7.

    T7 is another curve on the straight, and doesn’t really qualify as a corner, but given that it is a curve, for me, it’s always better to see a car going fast through a slight curve than just driving down a straight. There is then a 450m run from here to the next corner. T8,9 is a different complex that isn’t really seen in F1, with the cars actually following around a roundabout. T8 is quite a shallow corner, but because the next corner is quite tight in T9 it works. T9 is definitely an interesting corner. The drivers would definitely have to balance the throttle through the corner because of how long and tight it is. Drivers then on the exit have about a 300m straight to T10,11,12 complex. This is quite a quick left right left sweeping chicane, and should be really good to watch the cars through. A 250m straight follows after this leading down to T13. T13 is another boring right, but it would profiled as such that it wouldn’t be that sharp and would be opened up a little bit. There is then about a 300m straight down to T14. T14 would be a difficult corner to get right. You couldn’t take it too fast for fear of ruining the next corner, and also it would be deceptively tight. It looks quite open but in reality it would be shorter than it looks. Following straight after T14 is the T15,16 chicane. I really wanted to include this section of the circuit because it’s relatively technical. The left right chicane would be a bit of a challenge as the cars wouldn’t be going super fast, so it would throw up few different lines and speeds through it.

    T17 comes next, a left handed 90 degree again, and once again it would be profiled so it was more open (although here there is less room to be able to make that happen). A short straight follows and leads to T18,19 a relatively quick left hander followed by a quick right handed kink. This then leads into a short straight to T20. T20 is again another not super exciting but necessary corner. However, because it is a 90, cars should be able to follow relatively close, which should mean overtaking at the end of the curved straight. T21 happens to be the curve in said straight. The full curve straight is about 1km long. T22 is the corner at the end, quite a fast, though not all that fast left handed sweeper. Because of the speeds being traveled at, cars would have to definitely brake quite a lot. This, along with the length of the straight should be a good overtaking place. It’s also probably the one corner which would be a bit of a safety concern, given it is inside, but protection could be put up. Following after that is the final complex in T23,24, quite a slow right left chicane. It would be quite a tricky corner to get right. It has the potential to be made a little shallower.

    #289980
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    Australia
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    #289466
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    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6500936

    17 corners, 6.042km clockwise circuit.

    Haven’t got much time to describe this one so I’ll just point out a few key corners.

    T3,4 are both fast sweepers to the right.
    T,5 is a sharp braking zone and overtaking opportunity.
    T9 is a quick sweep to the right, making braking for T10 tricky.
    T11 is a quick flat out kink to the left.
    T12 is similar to Bahrain final corner. (Double apex essentially two corners).
    T13 is a difficult corner, quite fast, open but still an overtaking opportunity.
    T14,15,16 complex is tight but again should be good for overtaking. Odd profile with the middle part being the tightest part so the cars will need a good change of direction here.
    T17 final corner is fairly open. Whilst not an overtaking place due to the length of the preceding straight, it should make overtaking easier into T1.

    #289223
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    Is there anything you can’t do @andae23 ? :P

    #289200
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    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6498611

    5.78km, 18 corners, clock-wise.

    Start finish line is about halfway down the straight.

    T1 is a bit different this time, with it being a high speed, almost flat but not quite with cold tyres. It is very open and should allow cars to follow reasonably well. T2 follows after a 700m straight. T2 is a sharp, but still relatively shallow angled corner which should be interesting to see the cars go trough. It should be slow enough for cars to pass yet fast enough to be good to watch them through. After that, there is then a short run to T3, a long open corner, getting less angled as you go around it. It should be near to flat out at the speeds the cars would be at. T4 follows after a 400m straight. T4 is quite an open hairpin, tricky to get right but should be good for overtaking based on the previous corners.

    There is then a short run to T5, a corner which would be tricky to get right, and then follows T6, an open sweep to the right which should be flat out, at least it would be if not for the next corner, which is the first left hander of the circuit. The cars would be forced to slow down and not take it flat so that they can get T7 correct. Because of the way the two corners are, it should lead to overtaking as someone that wants to overtake can take T6 flat, therefore faster than the car ahead and could stick it down the inside. T7 is the first non-right handed corner on the circuit, done deliberately to make this part even more tricky. T8 follows out of T7, which should be flat out, but given that the right side tyres would be relatively cool, it might be tricky. There is then a 300m straight to T9, a sweep to the left which should be flat out, with tyres being at a better temp now, but still tricky. T10 comes next. This would be one of those corners that is quite difficult to make it exactly right, with it being close to flat but not quite flat. There is then about a 300m straight down to T11, a right hander which is tight enough to slow the cars down for an overtaking place, but open enough to make the cars twitch. Then follows T12, which would be a flat out left sweeper with a slight kink in the middle.

    There is then a run down to T13 with about a 400m straight. T13 is going to be very interesting. It would be on the limit of adhesion for the tyres to hold on. The entry wouldn’t quite be flat but I’d imagine it’d be quite close. The exit however would be similar to Parabolica at Monza, but with a wider exit, and picking the point to go on throttle should be a challenge. T13 sweeps all the way around and flows onto a straight. From acceleration point to the next corner of T14 it is about 700m. This should make T14 an overtaking opportunity. T14 is quite sharp, but still open. T14 opens to T15. All of this space is on a curve and so getting the power down should be difficult. T15 gets sharper as it continues but only very slightly and should be flat but a little twitchy. There is then a 400m curve/straight (which would count as T16) to T17, a corner which essentially would feel like a sharpening of said curve/straight. I think it would be difficult to get right. The final corner is a not too sharp, slightly open right hand 90 degree corner. Hopefully it should mean that cars can follow better for a chance to get a move done into T1 and definitely into T2.

    #289112
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    @retardedf1sh is the winner with an entry right on the brink of the deadline! Very good. Over to you!

    #288537
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    2010 I went to Friday practice and they had the 2008 McLaren sitting out and about for people to take pictures of around one of the general admission areas. That’s definitely the closest I’ve been.

    #288467
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    @toti Thank you!

    The new challenge:

    So, Korea was randomly added back onto the calender for 2015. Whether it is actually going ahead or not is no known, or even what track will be used. For the sake of this challenge though it will the normal Korean GP circuit we went to. You must redesign this circuit to make it better, using only the current grounds it is in. This is the area you must use: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6494616

    Rules –

    -3.5km to 4.5km long or 6km to 7km long.
    – At least 1km of the original track must be used.
    – Pit-lane must be designed.
    – No more than 2 hairpins and no tight 90 degree corners are allowed.

    Deadline will be over the weekend at some point, probably towards the end.

    Good luck.

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