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28th August 2011, 21:40 at 9:40 pm #177052
He doe indeed push it, doesn’t change the fact that he gets penalized for things others walks away from.28th August 2011, 19:33 at 7:33 pm #177050
In essence you think that a driver should give room for overtakers even when they haven’t passed. Thats interesting enough, I agree that if you leave a gap then you must expect it to be taken.
It would require quite a number of HAM penalties to be called back.28th August 2011, 17:14 at 5:14 pm #177047
For the record though, “them” is referring to two incidents, Kobayashi-Hamilton @SPA &
Hamilton-Maldonado @Monaco, both racing incidents, both with a guilt party if you go by the rule book.
Which still begs the question why Hamilton gets shafted for stuff that others walks free of.28th August 2011, 15:58 at 3:58 pm #177044
Agreed then, none of them should be penalized.
Which is agreeing with the premise of this thread i guess.28th August 2011, 15:35 at 3:35 pm #177042
HAM didn’t run anyone of the road, he went where KOB knew he was going, just as HAM knew where Maldonado were going in Monaco, either both or neither are a penalty.28th August 2011, 14:51 at 2:51 pm #177040
That was one incident yes, then there were the second one at Monaco with Maldonado which has parallels with todays incident in that an overtaking car tries to go for a minimal gap which trajects with the leading cars racing line; precisely what happened today and from which KOB walks free whereas HAM were penalized. 2008 on SPA HAM overtakes of the track, gives the position back and is penalized whereas today Rosberg overtakes out of track and walks free…
Yesterday with no race, no qualifying, no training going on Hamilton was run of the track by Maldonado (it happens) and was reprimanded!!
Ill check the start later, sure I can find plenty of causing a collision.
That’s just this weekend…
Either the stewards are biased or they are incompetent.28th August 2011, 14:06 at 2:06 pm #177030
Steph, as I was saying, at least 5 laps in a row Massa followed Weber around on the outside of that pin, you may only have seen the collision, but when you see them right after each other I can promise you its quite remarkable the way he suddenly goes for another line!28th August 2011, 13:59 at 1:59 pm #177027
Perhaps, but seeing on my recorder how, for the previous 5+ laps Massa was fully content with riding Convoy behind Weber, going high in the corner, and seeing that’s how he was starting out the turn the 6th time before suddenly deciding to go low, then I’m gonna stick with it :)28th August 2011, 13:50 at 1:50 pm #177025
Well Steph, if for one minute you believe that HAM would not have been penalized in the opposite situation then your fooling yourself. Check Monaco, HAM got two penalties for causing a collision, one of them where Massa purposely turned into him, for being further ahead than KOB were today. (Sidepod, whereas today was front wheel on rear wheel).
Definitely a bias going on with the Stewards can’t be denied anymore.
BTW Rosberg where overtaking of track in the start as well, unpenalized.