Lewis Hamilton will get his first taste of a NASCAR Sprint Cup car at Watkins Glen later this year.
McLaren confirmed their driver will trade places with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the former home of the United States Grand Prix.
Hamilton will drive Stewart’s Chevrolet Impala and Stewart will drive last year’s McLaren MP4-25 as part of a demonstration run.
Watkins Glen is one of just two non-oval courses on the Sprint Cup’s 36-race schedule. It held the American round of the world championship from 1961 to 1980.
McLaren Electronics will supply fuel injection systems to NASCAR from next year.
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Tim (@legardism)
27th February 2011, 16:42
Cool. Perhaps this could provide crucial preparation for a possible $5m Las Vegas IndyCar drive.. although probably not.
newnhamlea1
27th February 2011, 16:54
not even possible, its on the same day as the korean grand prix.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th February 2011, 17:19
I was really disappointed when I realised that.
Tim (@legardism)
27th February 2011, 18:56
Oh no, I obviously hadn’t done my homework! That’s very disappointing!
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:14
In theory it might just be doable. More something of a stunt for a guy like Glock though.
Has Oval experience and Virgin Atlantic could make it a great show for flying there in time (helicopter from car to airport, then straight to Vegas to make it in the nick of time).
But it really gives the impression, they are not too keen on anyone joinging in with a chance to win it. As Montoya stated, for the big NASCAR guys it would be hardly possible to do as well.
Only the lower series that run on Friday or Saturday can reasonably make it.
A shame really.
Hare (@hare)
28th February 2011, 9:38
And then in to space?
bosyber (@bosyber)
28th February 2011, 10:51
Maybe Gary Paffet or another third/test driver could also take a shot at it?
UniRacer
28th February 2011, 18:21
The date has not been set, and may have nothing to do with the NASCAR event later this year.
andrew345612
28th February 2011, 7:24
No, according to the F1 and Nascar official websites, the Watkins Glen race is smack in the middle of the one month break in August leading up to the 2011 Belgian Grand Prix.
UniRacer
28th February 2011, 18:24
People! Read the article! This is not a race… it’s a closed circuit demo for 2 cars. No date has been publicized.
KaIIe (@kaiie)
27th February 2011, 22:34
Since they’re on very different time zones, I think it would be theoretically possible to drive in both races. You would just have to get on a (fast) plane pretty much instantly after the GP finishes.
Scalextric
28th February 2011, 4:34
Assuming HAM makes it the full race distance… ;)
Tim (@legardism)
27th February 2011, 16:44
Although on second glance, it’s not an oval circuit. It’s good to see a bit of driver crossover, more please!
Rob G
27th February 2011, 16:45
Only a demo run… What a shame, I’d have liked to see how Hamilton handled a real race in NASCAR…
Lee
27th February 2011, 19:47
eaten alive
SoerenKaae (@soerenkaae)
27th February 2011, 21:08
Jan Magnussen, also a former F1 driver and now sportscar driver, drove the NASCAR race at Infineon last year. He said it was the most crazy, rough and wreckless race he had ever driven. So Lewis Hamilton would probably not be able to finish it.
Crispin
27th February 2011, 21:15
He should try out BTCC. More smash ups (Matt Neal) than any other series.
Noelinho (@noelinho)
27th February 2011, 22:33
He’d crash, shortly after he’d moaned about the tyres having no grip.
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:15
It is reported to be a real race ready NASCAR car, not just a demo. So we should be able to compare what he does with the laptimes in the NASCAR event there.
Nixon
28th February 2011, 10:19
Why would we compare? It is his first ever run.
jess
28th February 2011, 14:10
You cant compare. It takes time and traning for someone to go from any from of auto racing to another. Even then there is not sure thing that they will be good at it. Over history there have been very few drivers to be sucessful at multi-car driving styles. To be fare though the ones who were from what I have read were all primary open wheel drivers.
Baronetti
28th February 2011, 16:41
Ha ha! Nobody told Nigel Mansell that when he won the Champ Car series in the same year he was F1 champion!
And they were mostly on ovals….
David B
27th February 2011, 16:50
Great news.
Driving is turn the key on and go flat, whatever the circuit, whatever the car, whatever the opposite.
I lover this stuff.
slr
27th February 2011, 16:55
Hopefully Hamilton won’t bin it. Also, I believe Watkins Glen was the scene of Juan Pablo Montoya’s sole victory last year.
Rob Wilson
27th February 2011, 17:06
So he’s not taking part in a proper race then? Just a demonstation run? Oh that’s alright then, at first glance i was thinking *** is Hamilton doing racing in Nascar!
David B
27th February 2011, 17:41
Disappointed. Only a demo…
RIISE (@riise)
27th February 2011, 17:16
Where’s the source to say it’s a demo run? I was under the impression judging from the ESPN link that they were doing an exhibition run in “Race prepared machines”.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th February 2011, 17:19
I checked with McLaren.
RIISE (@riise)
27th February 2011, 17:23
Ahhh ok, thanks for the info.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th February 2011, 17:25
Pity he’s not doing the race – though if he did a Montoya it would be a disaster for F1.
Shimks
27th February 2011, 20:21
Why? Because he might switch?
Scribe
27th February 2011, 20:43
If Hamilton were to leave for F1 we’d be loosing one of the sports brightest and most marketable talents, incredibly young. Huge portions of his younger fans might well switch off.
Don’t really see it happening though, unless he does get frustrated in the same way as Montoya. But I suspect the differance is, if Lewis wanted a move to a faster team, he’d probably get it. Get the feeling all of them cept Ferrari (an oinly while they have Alonso) would snap him up.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th February 2011, 21:54
Shimks – That’s what I meant by ‘do a Montoya’! Can’t see it happening, though.
Laranja Mecanica
28th February 2011, 1:12
Let’s hope Dumbo enjoys NASCAR immensely and does a Montoya, best thing that could happen to F1.
Dobin1000 (@dobin1000)
28th February 2011, 10:48
It’s quite amusing to see all the unimaginative trolls suddenly using ‘Dumbo’ in every other comment since the Bernie biography came out, as if they thought of it or even understand what it means!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
28th February 2011, 11:12
Particularly given that they’ve got the reference wrong (‘Jumbo’ not ‘Dumbo’):
https://www.racefans.net/2011/02/24/ecclestone-book-reveals-animosity-dennis-cost-mclaren/
NW
28th February 2011, 20:24
No matter what the book says, Dumbo fits the subject much better than Jumbo. Not a perfect fit, though. All the really good ones are unprintable.
jsw11984 (@jarred-walmsley)
27th February 2011, 18:51
Is it possible that for this time he is doing a demo run so they can gauge his ability in the car, and then organise an actual race for him if he handles it well enough?
verasaki
27th February 2011, 17:20
Hmmm. There’s a lot of money in those series. I wonder if McLaren is sniffing out the possibility of branching out.
GMacGregor (@)
27th February 2011, 21:37
I’ve heard that McLaren will be providing engine management electronics to NASCAR in the near future…
Andrew
27th February 2011, 22:54
McLaren will be producing the ECU and injector system for Nascar in the ‘update’ to fuel injection.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
28th February 2011, 10:56
McLaren made IndyCars in the past, it would be great to see a McLaren aero kit for the 2012-generation IndyCar. (Group) Lotus are going one.
verasaki
27th February 2011, 17:23
And yes, it appears Hamilton and Stewart are trading cars for an exhibition. A F1 car at the Glen. What I wouldn’t give for that ticket.
Zibit
27th February 2011, 18:18
I question weather Tony Stewart will fit in the F1 car. To me, as an American, NASCAR is a joke. Not worthy of any attention.
Nickthegeek
27th February 2011, 18:40
I am glad someone brought that up he is not the most tightly packed driver out there.
Homer
27th February 2011, 18:58
at daytona 500, the announcers and pitlane reporters made a big fuzz over the fact that Stewart lost a lot of weight since last season… now we know why.
PT
28th February 2011, 19:38
Still, he is nowhere near Ryan Newman in terms of weight.
Which brings me to an enduring question I’ve had. If a fat (not fit?) driver does well in a series does it mean the series isn’t competitive enough? Is the right physical size or physical fitness really important to be a successful professional driver? We’ve seen AJ Foyt win his 4th Indianapolis 500 when he was pretty fat for a racing driver, and old too. Mario Andretti is also an example.
US_Peter (@us_peter)
27th February 2011, 18:58
You mean the guy that does Burger King commercials? I think they provide the bulk of his diet as well as being his sponsor…
Noelinho (@noelinho)
27th February 2011, 22:36
I always say, the fat manager at McDonalds must be an honest guy, ‘cos he clearly buys in to the business model!
verasaki
27th February 2011, 19:27
Ditto, Zibit! Good point. Maybe they can drag out one of Mansell’s old tubs.
DC
28th February 2011, 8:10
That is too funny. That’s the exact same thing I was thinking. On IndyCar’s Curt Cavin’s blog I once mentioned that Stewart would never try the Indy 500 again because he was too fat to get in a single-seater. The locals didn’t much appreciate that comment.
PT
1st March 2011, 10:27
DC,
Is that why Montoya chose to leave F1, because he was getting too fat to fit into a cockpit? :)
And after he left F1 he chose to go to NASCAR rather than IndyCar – for the same reason?
us-brian (@us-brian)
27th February 2011, 18:21
When is this going to happen?
verasaki
27th February 2011, 19:33
best guess would be the august 14 weekend. it said later in the summer, the series is there that weekend and i believe f1 is between races that weekend.
Fisha695
28th February 2011, 4:23
Canadian GP is June 12th
The Grand-Am 6hrs @ the Glen is June 4th
NASCAR at the Glen is August 14th
In 2003 when JPM/Gordon did it at Indy it was done on June 11th which was the Tuesday before the Canadian GP that year.
So just going out on a limb here I’ll say it’ll likely be June 7th or 8th.
What I want to know is has anybody heard which course layout they’re gonna use? The Full track that includes the famous “boot” (which is the track the Grand-Am race will be on) or the neutered Short Course that NASCAR uses.
Abhi
27th February 2011, 18:51
Can The Smoke still fit in a single seater?! Ha, Tony Stewart has some dieting to do this summer hahaha.
In all seriousness, this is great news. The Montoya-Gordon swap in 2004 was a lot of fun. I hope Stewart catches the single-seater bug again and makes a run at the $5 million IRL Vegas prize.
Also, it gives me goosebumps knowing that a modern F1 car is going to run at the spiritual home of F1 in America – Watkins Glen! Great news!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th February 2011, 19:15
Indeed, McLaren now have a car running at Bathurst and another at Watkins Glen. I wonder if they’d consider running one at Oulton Park…
Pink Peril
28th February 2011, 0:51
Really? Hadn’t heard about that. Assume one of the Vodafone boys is doing the swap. Just another impetus (if I needed one) to get my backside up to the Mountain this year.
Terry Fabulous
28th February 2011, 2:55
Hiya Pink!
Mark here from our meet up last year. How you going?
It’s actually on March 22, Tuesday. No Promos or anything yet, but that is the word.
Lowndes and Button will swap cars and hit the mountain.
So excited right now!
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:20
Just a shame they do not do it more often. What about someone getting into a Japanese touring car as well? Don’t they run Nissans / Infinity as well (making that one for Renault).
With Red Bull sponsoring all over the world, they could do more of this especially in the run up to the Austin GP the coming 2 years.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
27th February 2011, 18:55
I doubt it. Purely just for commercial purposes. There’s no way he could do both NASCAR and F1.
Homer
27th February 2011, 18:57
Too bad he’s not getting an attempt at an oval track.
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:22
Would he like it? His driving will be pretty competative on the road course, but on a oval I would guess he would need a lot of running to get competative.
And McLaren would not risk it, off course.
Homer
28th February 2011, 8:51
slightly different skillset required to race on an oval yea – also, ideally, he’d run indycar on an oval, not a nascar.
but of course, this is just some marketing ploy.
Hare (@hare)
28th February 2011, 9:57
Now Massa would be my choice for an oval track…. He’s the best F1 driver for going round in circles…. Especially when it’s wet :)
Leandra.Graves (@)
1st March 2011, 21:46
Yes I remember a very wet Silverstone a few years, didn’t Massa spin 6 times or something similar?
dav
27th February 2011, 19:18
meh
howick20
27th February 2011, 19:24
Just hope Lewis doesn’t go down the same route as Juan Pablo, pile on the pounds, and drive a big brightly coloured ‘truck’ in a circle arcoss America. I am a ‘true Brit’ as one can tell…..
rfs
27th February 2011, 20:09
Is this what he’d look like?
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lanvi5yz7N1qbm0mn.png
Tim (@legardism)
27th February 2011, 20:31
That’s classic!
Noelinho (@noelinho)
27th February 2011, 22:38
If Button and Hamilton were American, that is EXACTLY what they’d look like.
The New Pope
27th February 2011, 22:48
Well, with all due respect to our British friends, if they were in Britain at that size, the NHS would simply have them killed instead of treating them.
Chalky (@chalky)
28th February 2011, 9:47
But they could sue the NHS for not fitting a gastric band for free. I blame the NHS for making me eat all these pork pies!
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:33
Looks so real, I can see these guys racing in NASCAR immediately!
Hare (@hare)
28th February 2011, 9:42
Jenson Mutton and Lewis Waysaton
The New Pope
27th February 2011, 22:45
It is really apples and oranges at the end of the day, and one can like both F1 and NASCAR because of that fact. I happen to.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
27th February 2011, 19:53
I haven’t ever really given NASCAR a go so I might tune in one day…
VXR
27th February 2011, 20:16
NASCAR is great. You can pull off some really outlandish overtaking moves and the car keeps going. Whereas……
Didn’t Jarno Trulli do something similar a while back?
Tim (@legardism)
27th February 2011, 20:40
I managed to catch the Daytona 500 the other week online – it was my first NASCAR race and I thought it was pretty good.
What I liked was:
The massive average speeds, the number of cautions (safety cars for what would just be yellow-flag incidents), the unpredictability of the crashes, and the fact that it was all still to play for on the last lap. Oh and the fact the drivers have radio contact between each other!
The downsides:
The monotony of the oval track, the 200 lap distance*, constant commercial breaks.
I think what I liked best was watching being able to watch some motorsport on TV on a sunday.
Mike
28th February 2011, 5:41
NASCAR has it’s downsides, Like the whole yellow flag conveniently near the end thing. And also the whole it’s rubbish thing.
But mostly they get it right, especially how the race is presented. I mean, How good would F1 be if it’s TV program quality was as good as NASCAR. All it would take is a bit of effort.
Imagine the hilarity of that in F1! Alonso wouldn’t be able to contain himself.
BasCB (@bascb)
28th February 2011, 7:44
I would love that. And think of hearing Webber tell Seb what he thinks!
Or Rubens and Schumi in Hungary last year.
thatscienceguy
28th February 2011, 11:32
how the heck do you enjoy caution periods? Especially in NASCAR seeing they send the safety car out just to bunch the field back up.
I was watching a race last year (I think, maybe 2 years ago) and one of the drivers was on the radio to his team saying how the officals were “throwing the yellows” every 15 or so laps. Sure enough, 5 laps later and ~17 since the last caution, out come the yellows for absolutely no reason.
People claim KERS and proximity wings are artifical racing, NASCAR’s use of the safety car is an absolute afront to racing.
ManjuBoy
27th February 2011, 20:15
So this will be exactly like what Juan Pablo Montoya and Jeff Gordon did back in 2003 at Indianapolis when Montoya drove for Williams BMW. Cool!
I remember Gordon doing pretty well in the FW24 and Montoya and that big ol’ NASCAR looking like a floundering whale on the tight turns at the Indy infield.
Here’s a link to some of the highlights:
http://www.freshalloy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-69952.html
After his test, Jeff Gordon said that he was shocked by the level of fitness needed for F1.
Faraz (@faraz)
27th February 2011, 20:48
Juan Montoya is actually getting on quite well in NASCAR so don’t criticize him for it.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
27th February 2011, 21:08
Great pic rfs!
NickTheGeek
27th February 2011, 21:10
I dont know why people are putting any thought into the idea that Lewis is going to move to Nascar. there is zero chance, its just a demo run maybe as part of the press build-up towards the US GP. Didnt button do the same with the V8s in Aus last year? Nobody thought he was going to make the switch then!
I did watch Nascar last year and had watched the odd race over the previous 15 years or so. It just cant hold my interest. After the initial WOW of the crashes and the bump drafting it soon gets very artificial and repetitive. The fact it is so unpredictable at first seems great but then you release you may as well just watch the last 5 laps as everything before that is pretty much null and void on many of the tracks.
maxthecat
27th February 2011, 22:32
Lewis is a great driver but he wouldn’t last 5 laps in a NASCAR race.
The New Pope
27th February 2011, 22:49
And to be fair, most NASCAR drivers would be awful F1 drivers.
Rob Knight
27th February 2011, 22:58
“Lewis, this the steering wheel. You won’t be needing that much”.
Rob Knight
27th February 2011, 22:59
Damn, just realised Watkins Glen is a road course.
A-Safieldin
27th February 2011, 23:44
Let’s hope Hamilton doesn’t enjoy it too much
Trepiuno
28th February 2011, 0:01
In my opinion, racers want more experience, but I hope he won’t ends like Kubica…..
NW
28th February 2011, 1:20
Might as well do a Kubica
Sam
28th February 2011, 4:39
WOW. Your life is so much better for this comment.
schooner
28th February 2011, 2:06
It’s hard for me to imagine that Hamilton would, as Keith put it, ‘do a Montoya’. Montoya’s move to NASCAR, while somewhat shocking at the time, kind of makes sense. He was fed up with F1, the top drivers in the series make great money, you get to race a LOT (mostly in circles, unfortunately), and perhaps most importantly, he had already spent many years living in the US racing Indy cars, and seems to like it here. Hamilton appears to be quite content where he is. For now.
Dobin1000 (@dobin1000)
28th February 2011, 10:54
Exactly, Montoya had Chip Ganassi waiting to snap him up and put him in a decent car. Hamilton doesn’t have any connections and so would probably end up starting in it from the same position as Nelson Piquet Jr.
Jtc
28th February 2011, 2:37
Freaking awesome! I live about an hour from watkins glen and usually make several trips down per summer. Now I have a reason to go to the nascar weekend other than the party.
I really hope Lewis gets in to turn a few laps as well. It will be really cool to see an F1 car go bombing through the bus stop at 150mph!!!
Chalky (@chalky)
28th February 2011, 9:48
So Jenson gets the V8 supercar swap and Lewis gets the NASCAR.
Which would you rather try out?
xabregas
28th February 2011, 12:39
It´s Mobil 1 that´s sponsoring this trade because they´re sponsors of Mclaren and SHR ( Stewart´s nascar team).
It can´t be much better than that since Hamilton is one of the best in F1 and Stewart maybe the best nascar driver when it comes to road courses, actually he is a former indy car champion.
I´m sure Hamilton will love this experience and his driving style suits very well in nascar.
PJA
28th February 2011, 12:58
Shame it will just be a demonstration run and he won’t racing.
GeorgeTuk (@georgetuk)
28th February 2011, 13:43
Which is faster eh?
Would imagine top end on a Nascar is higher for the Ovals but F1 quicker for cornering and accleration. I am not overly familiar with Nascar though, would but its hardly ever on here. And I am not pay £6 p/month for it!
jess
28th February 2011, 14:07
This will be a nice thing to see. Tony is a former open wheel driver and IndyCar champion. and two time NASCAR champion. He dose some moonlighting in winged and wingless spint cars so I feel he will be one man to appreciate this experince. I think it will be fun to see and for them to do. It is fun to watch drivers do a different disipline of racing at times.
polishboy808
28th February 2011, 18:21
Just wanna say that thats actually a picture of Tony Stewart in a Nationwide Series car, not the Sprint Cup car. His Sprint Car is sponsered by Office Depot, not Oreos.
Maciek
28th February 2011, 22:10
Any cross over is cool. Wish there was more of it. It’s a real shame F1 doesn’t have a stronger presence in the Americas, but with the US GP (hopefully?) well on its way and McLaren entering the racing market there… fingers crossed.
It’ll be really interesting to hear what they both have to say about the handling.
Gman
28th February 2011, 23:46
First comment in awhile for me…great to be back!
As an American who keeps a “more than casual, but less than fanatical” interest in NASCAR, I have enjoyed what I believe is a warming to the sport among many F1 fans. Some of this comes from ventures such as the McLaren ECU deal, some of it from Montoya being competitive in Sprint Cup, and much of it from good ol’ common sense ;)
One of the other comments put it best…F1 and NASCAR are really apples and oranges. Everything you think about in Formula 1 has a NASCAR equivalent- thrilling tracks and boring tracks, top guns and back-markers, good and bad liveries- it’s all there. And many of the guys really can drive- Stewart is one of them. He’s a threat to win at any track, on any weekend, on the Sprint Cup schedule.
As for Lewis in NASCAR, I said in a post on my blog that there is a better chance of Anne Hathaway inviting me to a Hollywood party than of Lewis ever jumping to NASCAR- which is to say, not much ;) Montoya’s case was a unique one, as he had lived and raced quite successfully in America for several years, and had a very strong relationship with Chip Ganassi to work from.
Perhaps in a decade or so, Lewis may give it a thought. But even then…the technical side of NASCAR is a completely different book (aside from the few road courses) than anything he deals with now. With all the money that a top F1 driver makes, I doubt any of them would give serious consideration to chasing a full-time Sprint Cup career after leaving F1.
Younger Hamilton
2nd March 2011, 20:10
Hmm Hey Keith,Would you reckon What Lewis is doing is similar to what Jenson did with Jamie Whincup with the MP4-23 and that V8 Supercup Car at Australia last Year prior to the Australian Grand Prix
Dave from USA
4th March 2011, 2:45
There’s no way you can fit Tony Stewart’s Burger King fat a$$ in an F1 car. Maybe a double-wide. They will have to remove whatever is in the sidepods then ream the cockpit out, grease him up, then slide him in like a hog.