The FIA has listed the Grand Prix of America in New Jersey as one of 22 races on the 2014 F1 calendar.
However the race has been listed as one of three grands prix on consecutive weekends – one week after the race in Monaco and one week before the race in Canada – which may prove unrealistic from a point of view of logistics.
Even if the New Jersey race does not go ahead, a 21-race schedule would still be the longest ever seen in Formula One.
The new race in Russia has been given an October date and the revived Austrian and Mexican races also join the schedule.
There are five back-to-back race weekends on the calendar: Malaysia and Bahrain, China and Korea, Germany and Hungary, Russia and Japan and the USA and Mexico.
The Indian Grand Prix will not take place next year but organisers intend for it to return in 2015.
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American and Russian Grands Prix: Provisional and subject to circuit approval
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Tae-kun You (@wok03)
27th September 2013, 15:38
I wish Korean grand prix stays in the calendar as it is, it will be nice to attend one next weekend and only need to wait little to see it again!
Howard (@howard)
28th September 2013, 2:14
Yeah it would be nice if the race was moved closer to Seoul.
Maybe the new renovated Yongin speedway?
Roald (@roald)
27th September 2013, 15:39
But since the teams don’t want to have more than 20 races, partially because they can use only 5 engines for the entire length of the season next year, they’ll drop 2. My guess is Korea will be dropped and New Jersey will not happen anyway.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 15:53
I already saw mentions of possibly allowing 6 units if the season really gets to be 22 races. The smaller teams are against it (another 2 million they have to find), and it seems many expect the calendar to shrink back to 20 or max 21 races again before the season starts. Remember there is 3 events that are provisional so far.
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
27th September 2013, 15:41
Asia, Europe, America, Europe, Asia, America.
That’s a very nice calendar!
UnitedKingdomRacing (@unitedkingdomracing)
27th September 2013, 15:48
Actually the season starts in Australia not in Asia.
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
27th September 2013, 17:00
@unitedkingdomracing I know, but it’s only 1 race in Oceania, so… I was more into the stages of the championship.
James (@jamesf1)
27th September 2013, 15:47
I wouldn’t be surprised if the German and either the Korean or Chinese GP were to drop off of that list.
UnitedKingdomRacing (@unitedkingdomracing)
27th September 2013, 15:50
Why would that be the case? I’ve never heard any doubts about China or even Germany (apart from the Nuerburgring problems).
James (@jamesf1)
27th September 2013, 17:21
Both tracks are in serious financial trouble. Nurburgring’s issues have been made very clear over the last couple of years. Furthermore, Hockenheim have said in the past that they can only just breakeven when hosting the race every other year (every year was a loss maker for them).
China appears to have been see-sawing a little in the last couple of years, but as a post below says, it’ll stay if the Government are willing to prop it up.
Tae-kun You (@wok03)
27th September 2013, 15:57
I think the Chinese govt. will keep the money pumping into the gp.
TheChrisD
27th September 2013, 15:48
New Jersey on the same weekend as the IndyCars in Detroit. Potential for them to butt heads?
Matt-J
27th September 2013, 15:53
Monaco-New Jersey-Montreal triple header? Really? Can’t see that happening
Nick (@nick-uk)
27th September 2013, 15:58
Getting from Monaco to New Jersey will be pretty tough, but Montreal isn’t too far from there.
Matt-J
27th September 2013, 16:01
I really feel for the mechanics and the guys that pack up the garages and kit there. They’ll be knackered!
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 16:19
I guess it will have to be flying anyway. Even if its not on the other side of the continent, its far too long by road to get there in 2-3 days (packing up until monday – and first events are on thursday.) by truck
Nick (@nick-uk)
27th September 2013, 16:30
@bascb Montreal is only 500 miles from New Jersey.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 19:17
Hm, 500 miles is what 830 km? That is about a 2 day drive per truck, isn’t it? (I am not well informed on things like regulated pauses for truck drivers over in the US, in the EU its a rest after max. 8 hours driving), would be tight but not undo-able, I guess
Ajanu
27th September 2013, 20:56
In the US, trucks can drive 10 or 11 hours per day. In Canada it is 13, and it’s easy to hit the border in 10 hours. If they were to drive a long distance, say NJ to Austin, they would have 2 drivers and only stop for mandatory breaks every few hours.
@HoHum (@hohum)
27th September 2013, 21:59
@bascb, Just checked via Google Map, West NY NJ to Montreal Q, 366 miles, 5hrs. 40 mins.
BasCB (@bascb)
28th September 2013, 9:23
Ok, so if its only less than 600 km, thats just an 8 hour drive by truck that would be perfectly fine. So then the bigger point still remains of getting all the kit shipped to NJ in time.
I guess it would need another set of overseas kit so that they can ship most stuff the minute it gets returned and checked after (I guess) Korea. And get the cars etc. from Europe to America in 3 days.
Dane (@n0b0dy100)
27th September 2013, 16:35
It’s about 9-10hrs drive from New York City to Montreal.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 19:18
per car or for a truck?
Formula1 (@s2g-unit)
28th September 2013, 2:47
from our race track the Weehawken, NJ it should take with stops maybe 6.507 hours max. so very do-able for the teams and drivers.
scunnyman (@scunnyman)
27th September 2013, 17:12
They go from Monaco to Montreal now, so going from Monaco to New Jersey is no different really. And like Bascb says Only 500 miles between New Jersey and Montreal.
I agree the technical staff and engineers and transport staff will have a lot of work to do, but the teams should organise their teams to deal with it and hire more people if they need them.
Matt-J
27th September 2013, 17:36
There’s a week between Monaco and Montreal though. They’re not usually back to back.
I think it’s a bit harsh to say teams need to hire more people when teams are already struggling with costs.
scunnyman (@scunnyman)
27th September 2013, 22:16
@Matt-j and @MarkM I agree with you both to a certain extent.
I do reckon though that they should reduce the summer break to 3 weeks and juggle the calendar around to accomodate extra races. maybe then they could organise the calendar to fit the continents better.
MarkM (@mpmark)
27th September 2013, 21:49
scunnyman (@scunnyman)”They go from Monaco to Montreal now, so going from Monaco to New Jersey is no different really.”
but yes really it is, distance wise it might not be but currently Monaco to Montreal is 2 week break, it would now be 1 week break to New Jersey from Monaco, big big difference.
MuzzleFlash (@muzzleflash)
27th September 2013, 21:49
Does Monaco have an airport? Or one big enough for the 747’s the teams use?
Rubixx (@rubixx)
27th September 2013, 23:04
No but the teams would use NCE (Nice Cote D’Azur International Airport) which is only 30-40 km away.
Jarrod (@f1ism)
27th September 2013, 15:55
the order is weird, like u go from Europe to Asia to Europe the Asia again in the space of 4 race weekends, its impractical. tbh switch Russia and Singapore around, and (if all 22 races do feature next year) push the first American GpP to the front of year, mayb after Australia or after korea, idk just my opinion
Brady
27th September 2013, 17:54
The weather is way to unpredictable in march to hold a GP in NYC, it could be snowing still.
Fisha695 (@fisha695)
28th September 2013, 6:06
Honestly I think they should start in Asia/Middle East, get all those races out of the way & then move onto Europe for the Summer and then the Americas for the Fall.
MW
30th September 2013, 3:00
Swapping Singapore and Russia was the first thing I thought when I looked at the calendar
Pete (@repete86)
27th September 2013, 16:07
I hope that New Jersey really does happen this time.
Lancer033 (@lancer033)
29th September 2013, 6:41
hahahhaha….keep dreaming. The unions and the mob have to get their cut and Bernie wants it all. Never going to happen.
Nick (@npf1)
27th September 2013, 16:08
I really doubt we’ll have that triple header of Monaco-USA-Canada. Unless the new Concorde provides the teams with travel costs.
Having a race or two on there that is probably not going to happen reminds me of 1999, when a Chinese Gp and an Argentinean Gp kept popping up and neither happened. Hasn’t happened too much since, I think.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 16:16
Hm, just compare it to the Formula E calendar (I thought that one would go for the winter, but actually is struck all over the year) and I get several clashes.
Kicking off the series with a race in China the same weekend that we have Singapore … Hm, either its going to be long nights and then stay awake for the night race (lucky its a night race there I guess!), or ignore that first race. Not sure thats clever planning really, had they staged the China race a week earlier, that would work better.
And having a race in Hongkong and staying up late for Austin the same weekend is either going to be a great weekend of motorsport or a gruelling time with no sleep!
BasCB (@bascb)
27th September 2013, 16:17
here’s that Formula E calendar if anyone is interested
Tomsk (@tomsk)
27th September 2013, 17:28
Surprised that first Beijing race is on the same weekend as the WEC Circuit of the Americas race, never mind the Singapore GP. Shouldn’t all three be on separate weekends so they don’t compete with each other? And many of the drivers Formula E is hoping to attract will want to be in Texas racing sportscars – guys like Bruno Senna and Lucas di Grassi have expressed an interest.
Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty)
27th September 2013, 17:49
I agree also that the series needs good drivers to help boost viewer numbers, maybe they think it will work regardless.
BasCB (@bascb)
28th September 2013, 9:25
Oh, I forgot about the WEC calendar. So yeah, that is really either going to be a superb weekend of racing or a missed opportunity to get attention to a new series.
Especially as you mention with drivers potentially doing some rounds of FormulaE and WEC
Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty)
27th September 2013, 17:48
Considering that Monaco there is on May 11, what’s to say that the Monaco F1 GP will not be the week after? May 18? Else there is two weeks before the May 25 GP. Moving Monaco a week earlier would allow New Jersey to fit in and possibly minimise costs for track construction/deconstruction. I would guess the Korean GP would depart for this to happen, but being paired with China (and not Bahrain, Aus-Mal either) seems to suggest not, unless b2b races are being cut? But it could simply be put b2b with Barcelona. All this manoeuvring then allows the Le Mans weekend to be free of F1.
Russia ahead of Japan surprised me, and also the swaps on the Formula E calendar – Uruguay for Rio? that I hadn’t heard about. Rio is busy trying to prepare for a World Cup and Olympics, and deal with itself as a large city. I thought Russia needed all the time possible to set up for the GP, and it would make sense to be paired with Abu Dhabi, unless they have an exclusivity clause like Singapore (no GP a week either side).
Also, I wonder if Bernie moves the circus around in such a way to try and ease some of the ticket selling burden on each race’s promoters – it’s hard enough for them to survive under Bernie’s terms as it is.
Fisha695 (@fisha695)
28th September 2013, 6:11
Monaco in FE is not until 2015 so it would have no effect on the 2014 F1 calender. That being said an F1 race in the USA/Canada on Memorial day weekend wouldn’t be wise because it would get killed in viewership by the Indy 500 & NASCAR 600, whereas with Monaco it kicks on that Sunday morning and is followed an few hours later by the 500 which is followed a few hours later by the 600.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
28th September 2013, 0:53
@bascb – Do you really think Formula 1 cares that much about Formula E? The Formula E races are hardly in the same boat as the Le Mans 24 Hours.
BasCB (@bascb)
29th September 2013, 17:48
If Bernie cares for it at all, it would be only to make sure it never gets up to anything. But its not Bernie who gets to define the calendar (although in reality it probably is just him), its the FIA @prisoner-monkeys
And as Formula E is something the FIA started and wants to make successfull, I do think they should care, lest it end up like F2
Massonen
27th September 2013, 16:20
why can’t they move from continent to continent instead of going away then coming back? wouldn’t that be more cost effective?
scunnyman (@scunnyman)
27th September 2013, 17:15
Agreed.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
28th September 2013, 1:30
No, because that would put some races in direct competition with one another. For instance, it might sound sensible to pair Singapore and Malaysia together, but those races draw on the same population base to get spectators, and having them so close to one another will only result in one race getting more spectators than the other, which would subsequently die out.
fjv
28th September 2013, 6:15
You would think so, but I guess the market beat dictates the logistic priorities or compensates for travel costs, can not think of any other reason to change time zones like that weeks on and on, and what it would do to the teams staffs. Unless…, this is another draft to keep everybodys attention! (no such thing as bad publicity)
mildertduck (@mildertduck)
27th September 2013, 16:27
There is a way: allow all teams two drop-scores per year.
That way, the teams have to weigh up which races they enter, and it may create an opportunity for “second” teams – young drivers / second-string or trainee mechanics to have a go at the “big time” without it mattering… of course, drivers would have to decide which scores to drop *before* the race, so they don’t just drop their two lowest –
David not Coulthard (@)
27th September 2013, 17:22
@keithcollatine You’ve got to see that. Has anyone got Bernie’s phone number?
David not Coulthard (@)
27th September 2013, 17:23
@keithcollantine
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
27th September 2013, 18:02
@mildertduck Fans who paid hundred of pounds to go to a race and then their favourite driver doesn’t show up because it’s one of his ‘dropped’ races would really have something to boo about…
Bleu (@bleu)
27th September 2013, 21:12
Plus if one race gets big amount of drops then it’s very unfair.
q85
27th September 2013, 23:07
also we could have drivers winning titles who never scored the most points all year. Like senna-prost when the winner scored alot less points than the guy in 2nd.
Which is clearly madness and stupid.
Deej92 (@deej92)
27th September 2013, 16:30
Well I must admit I was wrong about New Jersey. I didn’t think it would ever happen (obviously it still isn’t guaranteed to happen).
That is one mighty calendar though. Three races in three weekends must be a first if that happens.
Lateralus (@lateralus)
27th September 2013, 16:36
The order is so strange. The back-and-forths seem very inefficient. New Jersey and Montreal really aren’t very far apart, so that shouldn’t be too difficult of a move for the F1 circus. I’ve driven it myself (well, coming from NC to Montreal but I went through New Jersey and New York). The Monaco > Montreal move is tough though. I can’t figure out what to move around and make the calendar still work, unless at least one race is dropped. As someone who lives in the Eastern US, I hope it isn’t New Jersey. If that race goes ahead I will be there.
Dane (@n0b0dy100)
27th September 2013, 16:38
Finally a good reason to visit New Jersey! I better get a spray tan and practice my fist pumping.
Pandaslap (@pandaslap)
27th September 2013, 16:55
If the calendar continues to expand, the least Bernie can do is create a sequence that is efficient and reasonable. Costs not withstanding, it is not just the “F1 circus” making this back-and-forth trek across the globe – these are human beings with families and homes.
Pandaslap (@pandaslap)
27th September 2013, 16:58
Races 2-4 and 16-20 show off some of the stupidest back-and-forthing imaginable.
Jon Sandor (@jonsan)
28th September 2013, 0:46
It’s not a very good advert for the new fuel-efficient and energy conscious Formula One, that’s for sure.
Jason
27th September 2013, 16:57
Was just at the NJ site yesterday, they need to hurry the hell up. I don’t see any sign of a pit garage or work being done on the new track where its supposed to swing around the water. The road surface needs a real good going over to.
Mansell's_Stache
27th September 2013, 17:07
Should have kept the V8s and revised the calendar to be more efficient if they really wanted to be eco-minded (V6 turbos sound horrendous not to mention restrictions on fuel consumption…ugh). Would it really be so terribly awful to have all N. American races in one stint?
Chad (@chaddy)
27th September 2013, 17:21
If the race in New Jersey happens, will the F1 teams have to higher state employees to pump gas for them? (Just a little NJ joke)
Tim M (@tim-m)
27th September 2013, 19:01
Yes, but the gas will be cheaper than elsewhere, so it won’t conflict with the RRA :)
Chad (@chaddy)
27th September 2013, 22:13
Can’t believe I spelled hire wrong.
Slr (@slr)
27th September 2013, 17:24
Sochi to Suzuka in a week would surely be hell for the teams. I think they should have the Japanese GP on September 28th and have Russia on October 12th. Either that or put Sochi on September 14th and push Singapore a week or two back.
Tomsk (@tomsk)
27th September 2013, 17:32
Mexico’s all confirmed and not subject to anything, then?
Fair enough logistically to have it the week after Austin, but won’t the two races be competing with each other? A bit like going to Spa the weekend after the Nürburgring.
mantresx (@mantresx)
27th September 2013, 20:01
@tomsk Well in a perfect world USA and México’s markets are so huge that each country wouldn’t have a problem filling the races with 100,000 fans each.
The problem here of course is that the US is not a very mature market for F1 just yet, but in a couple of years I’m sure COTA will have more and more American fans and it won’t have to depend so much on foreign F1 fans.
macrob
27th September 2013, 21:09
Austin is 1600 km away from Mexico City, it is like going from Spa in Belgium to Naples in Italy…and both markets have tenths of millions of people, they will saturate both racetracks, believe me…
fjv
28th September 2013, 8:43
You bet, Fans have filled both venues on international series in the past.
Just keep some tracks off Tilkes hands, please!! Bringing Mexico to FIA safety standards does not mean copy other tracks and buildings, this is not a hotel chain, every track should have its own flavor, its own personality, on the track, architecturally, visually ( I love Hochenheims forest, specially the old layout). I do rather watch monaco than to watch one of Tilkes, I have noticed, traditional tracks give better races than the new ones, I think in looking for a “one size fits all” approach to track design, some how it misses on the character of the race, it feels repetitive, predictable, it does not break the mold from one of his tracks to the next, with so very few exceptions, its amazing they keep calling him to do more. There has to be other designers out there.
Honestly, They feel like oval tracks, sure they maybe different, but in the end they have to be ovals. He was given more than one chance and has not come up with anything nearly as exciting as Eau rouge (Spa) or the wall of champions in Montreal for example or any of the spots that had made traditional circuits famous, in fact I can not recall any feature from any of his tracks that is distinctive except his stupid towers , Its exactly like walking in to any of a fast food places, it may be different, but it feels exactly the same, I hate that.
All chinese, french, spanish or greek restaurants are different from each other even if they have the same menu (they hardly ever do) that is what I want. if I am watching, Monte carlo, Then Mont real, Then Silverstone. its more fun than Malaysia, then China, then Bahrain. let tracks be what they may, as long as they are safe.
Tayyib (@m0nzaman)
27th September 2013, 18:03
22 Races for fans is brilliant. For the teams and the personnel surely its gonna be very tough. Logistically as well its going to be very tricky as well as cost at carting this global circus around for 10 months. I also thought that the teams wanted a limit of 20 races.
mfreire
27th September 2013, 19:13
I think what Ecclestone wants to do is force the Korean GP off the calendar so he can move the Spanish and Monaco GP’s 2 weeks back to April 27 and May 11 so there is a greater logistics timeframe for F1’s first North American tour. So this is how it is:
Bahrain GP: April 7
Spanish GP (In place of Korean GP): April 28
Monaco GP: May 11
GP of America: June 1
Canadian GP: June 8
Austrian GP: June 22
You can’t have either of the North American events on May 25 because that’s the same day as the Indy 500. It makes sense- the Korean organizers have between 6-7 months to organize the GP and considering all the inevitable troubles that race has seen, it won’t last. I would absolutely love to see the NJ race happen- the spot where the circuit is located is incredible; it has a lot of elevation changes and that would be great for the sport.
I would also be surprised to see the Mexican race happen- 14 months doesn’t seem like a long enough a time to redesign and rebuild a racing facility. It would be fantastic it that race does happen- Mexico is a great place to have an F1 race particularly when you have Perez and Guitierrez competing in F1 right now. The Hermanos Rodriguez track is a very nice track but it’s going to be redesigned- surely. The Russian race will definitely happen- Ecclestone has been saying that all along- and when words like that come out of Ecclestone’s mouth, the race is an almost certainty. The Austrian race will most likely happen; that area where the RB Ring is located is really scenic and beautiful.
If the Indian race comes back, I think that the Malaysian race
will be axed. Its not far from Singapore and the success of that race has frankly overshadowed the Malaysian GP. Not much of a loss, IMO.
This calendar minus the Korean GP is a humdinger- I
just hope NJ happens, who knows though.
Joshua
27th September 2013, 20:58
Where will the DRS be on the RedBull Ring? The fastest lap set on the track by an F1 car was 1:08 minutes in 2003, would the times drop below 1:00 minutes because of KERS & DRS?
tian (@tiananmen)
27th September 2013, 22:30
I doubt they will be able to cram that many grand prix in the calender. They might have to drop Korea or Germany maybe as the teams might not want to buy more engines or try and make them last longer etc. At least it will be harder for vettel to be so far out ahead with a possible 75 more points available next in 2014
Rigi (@rigi)
28th September 2013, 0:57
good for the fans, not so good for the teams. i’m intrested to see how it evolves.
really gope new jersey is going to happen though, it’d be great for f1 in america.
Rigi (@rigi)
28th September 2013, 0:59
*hope
kcarrey (@kcarrey)
28th September 2013, 1:56
F1 teams wanted to cut costs, yet they are made to travel to 22 venues for races.
Andrew VanderLei (@andrewvanderlei)
28th September 2013, 1:56
No India, I see. Is it taking a 1-year break, or off the calendar for good?
William (@william)
28th September 2013, 2:37
1 year off and it will be held in March 2015
William (@william)
28th September 2013, 2:45
It is good for F1 fans but not so good for the F1 teams. They need to have a 2 week break not back to back race, and an interesting choice of a triple header it feels like it is MotoGP. I suspect the New Jersey race to go (referring to above post). As they need to do a lot of work before it gets a race.
Minardi (@gitanes)
28th September 2013, 3:42
6 races in October and November? Seems too loaded up for the backside of the calendar when no other series are racing. Can’t they race somewhere in February?
William (@william)
28th September 2013, 5:29
I think they do testing during the off season. Make the Albert Park race a week earlier and there should be no back to back races or even triple headers. Also, you could make it go right through from March to almost December.
Travis (@mcmerctn)
28th September 2013, 5:34
Thrilled to see New Jersey. I walked the circuit last summer, awesome elevation changes and some very fast corners for a street course. I saw a big building that looked like a bunch of garages, so I had some hope. But really, I do like seeing more races, because racing is so much more interesting than the petty stuff we tend to get caught up in between the races.
Sri Harsha (@harsha)
28th September 2013, 8:17
I believe that 22 races is pretty much hard not only on the People but also on the machinery.
The Gearboxes need to last 5 races and with the new rule for MGU’s (Motor Generator Units) also need to last for 5 races. 5 Engines for entire season makes it tough to manage them.
HawkAussie (@hawkaussie)
28th September 2013, 9:44
Australia
Malaysia
China
Korea
Bahrain
Spain
Monaco
Austria
Britian
Germany
Belgium
Italy
Hungary
Russia
Singapore
Japan
Abu Dhabi
Mexico
Canada
American
United States
Brazilian
Caine Pegg
20th October 2013, 23:04
I think a cost cutting calendar should be like this:
Australia
Malaysia
Korea
China
Japan
Singapore
Bahrain
Abu Dhabi
Spain
Monaco
Austria
Britain
Germany
Hungary
Belgium
Italy
Russia
New Jersey
Canada
Texas
Mexico
Brazil