DJDaveyP was the top predictor at the Australian Grand Prix weekend – he was the only person to correctly pick a Brawn GP one-two headed by Jenson Button, with Button also on pole.
He came out on top in the first predictions game of the year as we warm up for the F1 Fanatic Predictions Championship which will start at the Chinese Grand Prix weekend. Here are the results from the Australian Grand Prix:
First place: 35 points
DJDaveyP
Second place: 25 points
Paradoxos, Matt (2)
Fourth place: 20 points
Kallan, PawelF1, SamS, Simon, Luigismen, Sudhakar, Matt, Vegito2055, Phillippe, F1Fan, Keith Collantine
15th place: 10 points
Adam Lewis, Brody, Owen, Alastair, Ali, SYM, Dan Wells, Dan, Stealthman, Damjan006, Todd, Andy, Brendan, Pete Firestarter, SteveRobbo, Greg76, Dex69, Adrian, PJA, Rtut, Mystic Pizza, Darkcloud65, Whewbacca the cookie, Eddie Irvine, Loki, Rahzam, Cameron, Yosteffen, Bruno Cesar, Striay, TommyB, Cristian Fenichi, Darren, MacademiaNut, Donwatter, Kamran, Daniel, Haas, Pete Baldwin, Calhalla, Roser, Dave, Rcapanni, Nefastius, Michel S., Sriram, Bassfighter, Julian Billingham, Ioan, Sas, Graham 228221, Adam Tate, Toadette
Well played DJ DaveyP, and runners-up Paradoxos and Matt (one of two Matts who entered – might want to add a bit to your user names next time guys!). But can they repeat their form this weekend?
We’ll have a fresh round of predictions for the Malaysian Grand Prix on Friday. I’m thinking about tweaking the points system to spread the results out a bit more – leave any suggestions for how we could do that below.
We had over 200 predictions for the Australian Grand Prix. Join in the fun again this weekend – keep an eye out for the Malaysian Grand Prix predictions post after free practice two finishes on Friday.
But it all gets more serious when the Chinese Grand Prix weekend arrives and we start playing for prizes…
Update – OK so with Trulli promoted to third the scorers are now:
1st, 35 points – DJDaveyp, Simon, Luigismen, Sudhaker,
5th, 25 points – Alastair, Dan, Donwatters, Paradoxos, Matt (2), Ioan, Toadette
12th, 20 points – Kallan, PawelF1, SamS, Matt, Vegito2055, Phillippe, F1Fan, Keith Collantine
Owen
1st April 2009, 8:01
Great comp Keith, keep up the good work!
A suggestion for spreading the points – how about points for getting a driver in the top 3 but the wrong position. Say 2 or 5 points? At the moment you could have the top 3 drivers but in the wrong order and get no points for it.
And I’m not just saying that because I had Barrichello 3rd!
Macademianut
1st April 2009, 15:40
This comment should be an example for FIA for not changing to the medal system. BRAVO. :)
Michel S.
1st April 2009, 16:04
Or use the difference between predicted order and actual order?
e.g.:
correct position: 10 points
off by 1: 6 points
off by 2: 3 points
DGR-F1
1st April 2009, 8:14
I hope the on-screen graphics for everyone competing will include a little battery which shows how much energy they are spending on it……. :-)
todd
1st April 2009, 9:18
lol
StrFerrari4Ever
1st April 2009, 8:22
damn i better try harder for Sepang :D
SoLiD
1st April 2009, 9:01
Didn’t do to well here, but my ‘fantasy f1’ teams won me a pair of Mclaren shoes worth 140€ so I can’t complain :D
Striay
1st April 2009, 12:11
Which Fantasy page do you use? I would like to join it with those type of prizes lol!
Chalky
1st April 2009, 9:04
How typically FIA of you! :D
Oliver
1st April 2009, 9:24
I noticed Keith is using a points system, but wouldn’t mind a medal system in F1 or winner takes all
ukk
1st April 2009, 9:28
I reckon you should go for the gold medals system, mate ;-) points are just so outdated :-)
Ali
1st April 2009, 9:34
I don’t accept that! It was illegal. I’ll appeal the decision immediately!
Hounslow
1st April 2009, 9:42
Maybe we could have another category of prediction for each race, Keith.
Number of Disqualifications, Penalties and Appeals.
djdaveyp
1st April 2009, 9:47
I actually won a predictions game! Wow!
I must be getting better! I’m usually full of something!
Fer no.65
1st April 2009, 10:48
I said Barrichello Raikkonen Trulli would be 1st 2nd and 3rd… FIA took me that one with Trulli :(
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st April 2009, 22:31
Hang in there mate this one ain’t over yet: Hamilton’s third place under threat again (Update: FIA opening new investigation)
Loki
1st April 2009, 11:13
I don’t even remember my predictions, lol! I do remember trying to go for whatever anyone else wasn’t going for, a bit of a Spyker-Nurburgring-2007 tactic…obviously didn’t pay off as well!
10 points is still better than a kick in the gonads! :D
SYM
1st April 2009, 11:13
congrats djdaveyp. mois….10 pts…yippeee :)
gazzap
1st April 2009, 11:36
I went for Button 2nd and Barichello 3rd and got no points despite being really close on 2 drivers.
someone could guess the right top 3 but in the wrong order and get no points while someone else gets one driver right and 2 drivers completely wrong and pick up points. something not quite right there.
bassfighter
1st April 2009, 12:24
that souds like we must guess all the 20 places…
and than after the race: why don’t I have points? :S I at least had all the 20 drivers… but not in the right order :D
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st April 2009, 22:33
Gazzap – Yeah that’s why I’m thinking of tweaking the system!
pawelf1
1st April 2009, 12:58
could you live somewhere a link so we could check exacly when we were tiping :P
pawelf1
1st April 2009, 12:58
leave not live :P
Kallan
1st April 2009, 13:48
Thanks for tallying this Keith it must take some time, I want to say the effort is appreciated!
I wouldn’t want it to become over complicated for you to score but I second Owens suggestion of a few points for guessing a top 3 driver regardless of whether they’re 1st 2nd or 3rd.
djdaveyp
1st April 2009, 14:51
Nah! Its about accuracy! Getting 1 right is better than getting 3 in the wrong order.
Luigismen
1st April 2009, 19:46
I’m sorry but I think getting the whole podium in the wrong order is a little bit better than guessing the third placed driver or the winner only
It’s hard to guess the whole podium! even if is not in the correct order
qazuhb
1st April 2009, 16:19
My predictions were “trulli” disastrous… I put poor Jarno as poleman AND winner!
But I am now in possession of a powerful weapon; just have to nominate my most hated driver as winner for Sepang and voilà… an awful weekend for him.
matt
1st April 2009, 16:45
The person who comes first in the most races should win! lol
matt
1st April 2009, 16:46
and second place can be decided by most points
matt
1st April 2009, 16:47
and third place can be decided by wins. Take that Bernie! Now who has the most complex and rdiculous system imaginable?
matt
1st April 2009, 16:51
(Mind you, this is for the fianl season-long positions. We should make the individual races’ points system even more complicated!)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st April 2009, 22:34
That would be NASCAR…
Damon
1st April 2009, 19:05
Only now did I look into the scoring system of the game, and realized how flawed it is. It’s not a good system, Keith.
If my prediction for the race is:
1. Massa
2. Kubica
3. Hamilton
And then the race result is:
1. Kubica
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
…then I score nothing. That’s just wrong.
One should be awarded for guessing a podium finisher – regardless of his position. Guessing his correct position should be a bonus.
That’s correct.
Ok, so if I have:
1 correct guess – I score 10 pts
2 correct guesses – I score 20 pts
3 correct guesses – I score 30 pts
That’s fine.
But now:
These 25 and 50-point bonuses are nonsensical.
It’s like awarding the winner of the race with 10 pts, and then awarding him with extra 25 pts for… scoring those 10 pts.
The person who has the most correct predictions already scores more points (10<20<30) than someone who has fewer of them – so awarding him with an extra bonus just for doing so makes no sense.
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I think we may all agree that points should be awarded:
a) in qualifying:
– for guessing the pole sitter
b) in the race:
– for guessing a podium finisher
Bonus points:
– for guessing a podium driver on his correct position (the bonus for naming the winner may be bigger than for naming the 2nd and/or 3rd placed man)
Damon
1st April 2009, 19:14
Whoops. I think I got the 10-25-50 thingy wrong, sorry.
I thought you were first awarding 10 for each correct guess, and then adding extra 25 or 50 in case of a multi-correct answer. Ok, I get it now.
—————-
Nonetheless, the “Massa-Kubica-Hamilton” problem is still there and needs to be fixed.
My proposition for ‘the spirit of the system’ is still as valid as it was :)
Luigismen
1st April 2009, 19:42
The 10-25-50 thing it’s fine, I’m thinking 5 points bonus for each driver you guessed to be on the podium, but not in the correct order, for example:
my predictions 1. Button 2. Hamilton 3. Vettel
race result 1. Kubica 2. Button 3. Hamilton
so I would have a 10 point bonus (5 for each driver) for having said that Hamilton and Button were going to be on the podium, but missed their correct positions
thoughs?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st April 2009, 22:35
I like this one – quite simple but fairer than the current method.
Damon
1st April 2009, 19:59
@ Luigismen
You’re abusing the word ‘bonus’. :p
Prediction a:
1.Massa 2.Kubica 3.Vettel
Prediction b:
1. Vettel 2.Trulli 3.Kubica
Race result:
1. Button 2. Massa 3. Kubica
With your proposal:
Score a – 10 pts (for guessing 2 podium finishers [2×5=10])
Score b – 10 pts (for guessing 1 podium finisher at correct position)
I don’t think guessing 1 result correctly should be worth as much as guessing 2 drivers correctly. Because prediction a) is so much better.
Luigismen
1st April 2009, 20:12
well, maybe 3 points for each? that way
a- 9 pts for guessing the complete podium in the wrong order
b- 10 pts for guessing 1 podium position correctly
9<10
Damon
1st April 2009, 20:19
@ Lugigismen
That’s even worse! Horrible!
You understood the opposite to what I’ve said.
10 pts for guessing a driver – regardelss of his place
5 pts bonus for a correct position – because the position itself is not as important as guessing the driver
Luigismen
1st April 2009, 20:43
No, I’m sorry, I think you understood wrong
Its 10 pts for guessing 1 correct position, 25 for 2 correct positions and 50 for 3 correct positions
and beside that, 3 points for guessing a driver in the podium but not in the right order
that way, guessing a correct position would worth 10pts and guessing the complete podium but not in order would be 9 pts
that’s what I said
Damon
2nd April 2009, 0:06
“that’s what I said”
– Yes, I know. And that’s what wrong.
Come on. This is ridiculous.
Michel S.
2nd April 2009, 4:35
If Hamilton loses his third place, Keith will have to recalculate the GP predictions — sorry, DJDaveyP :)
Jaffa Cakes
12th May 2009, 11:54
GO STRIAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
:)
:D
:P
;)