2009 Japanese Grand Prix grid

2009 Japanese Grand Prix

1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault – 1’32.160
2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota – 1’32.220
3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes – 1’32.396
4. Nick Heidfeld, BMW – 1’32.945
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari – 1’32.980
6. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes – 1’32.660***
7. Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota – 1’31.482
8. Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes – 1’32.466***
9. Robert Kubica, BMW – 1’32.341
10. Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes – 1’32.962***
11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes – no time*
12. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso-Ferrari – no time
13. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari – no time****
14. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari – 1’31.704
15. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota – 1’31.718
16. Fernando Alonso, Renault – 1’31.638***
17. Romain Grosjean, Renault – 1’32.073
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India-Mercedes – 1’32.087*
19. Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault – no time**


*five-place penalty for a gearbox change
**will start from pit lane
***five-place penalty for failing to slow down sufficiently under yellow flags
****five-place penalty for driving an unsafe car back to the pits

The penalties were applied in the following order:

17:52: Alonso (drops to 17th)
18:05: Barrichello (drops to tenth, Button sixth, Kovalainen eighth, Buemi ninth)
18:07: Button (drops to 11th, Barrichello ninth, Kovalainen seventh, Buemi eighth)
18:08: Sutil (drops to ninth, Barrichello eighth, Kovalainen sixth, Buemi seventh)
18:54: Kovalainen (drops to 11th, Sutil eighth, Barrichello seventh, Button tenth, Buemi sixth)
19:18: Buemi (drops to 11th, Sutil seventh, Barrichello sixth, Button ninth, Kovalainen tenth)

Timo Glock not starting from 14th means the drivers who qualified behind him move up a place.

Not starting:

Timo Glock, Toyota

Japanese Grand Prix

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69 comments on 2009 Japanese Grand Prix grid

  1. Frans said on 3rd October 2009, 9:43

    Hey Keith. Were are the fuel predictions and stragtegie of the japanese Grand Prix?

    Kind regards,

    The Netherlands

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 10:24

      Fuel weights haven’t been revealed yet. They’ll be posted at the top of the home page when they are.

      • Randy said on 3rd October 2009, 11:44

        Are the drivers promoted into the top ten due to the penalties still able to tweak their fuel strategies. Rosberg and Kubica could be dangerous from 7th and 8th if they run a one stopper.

        Anyone know the rule on this one?

  2. Andrew White said on 3rd October 2009, 9:48

    Apparently Button, Barrichello, Kubica, Heidfeld, Alonso, Sutil and Buemi have been summoned by the stewards, presumably regarding the yellow flag incident in Q2.

    • Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd October 2009, 10:44

      If all seven get penalised, based on the number and severity of charges plus Q1 times, the grid will look something like this:

      1 – Vettel
      2 – Trulli
      3 – Hamilton
      4 – Raikkonen
      5 – Kovalainen
      6 – Rosberg
      7 – Button
      8 – Barrichello
      9 – Alonso
      10 – Kubica
      11 – Heifeld
      12 – Sutil*
      13 – Buemi**
      14 – Glock
      15 – Alguersuari
      16 – Fisichella
      17 – Nakajima
      18 – Grosjean
      19 – Liuzzi
      20 – Webber

      * Sutil said to be on two charges, thus demoting him to the back.
      ** Buemi possibly on charge of driving damaged car, the most severe of all charges, hence I put him behind Sutil.

      • Meander said on 3rd October 2009, 11:01

        Uhm, moving forward due to a penalty doesn’t seem to make any sense. If Alonso and Kubica sped thru yellow they surely can’t move up the grid, can they?

      • Andrew White said on 3rd October 2009, 11:08

        And how has Button got ahead of Barrichello?

  3. mp4-19b said on 3rd October 2009, 11:30

    Hats off to the stewards. Hope they maintain this level of consistency in the future. This is really good for the championship though.

  4. arporter said on 3rd October 2009, 11:39

    i wonder how many drivers trulli is going to get KERSed by at the start

  5. carol treurnicht said on 3rd October 2009, 11:42

    Hey Keith
    you need to update for Glock to start from pitlane if he races- he also needs a new car like Webbo………

  6. arporter said on 3rd October 2009, 11:45

    kovi is looking good with his fuel weight following the grid penalties

    • Might have to change his gearbox though. If not he will be in a strong position, very ironic as he only has so much fuel on board because he crashed at the beginning of Q3!

      • bradley said on 3rd October 2009, 12:37

        I’ve worked it out and the grid should be:

  7. D Winn said on 3rd October 2009, 12:26

    Kovi to move back 5 places for gearbox change ??

  8. Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd October 2009, 13:16

    Confusion over the proper order stems from the fact that you have to add the penalties in the order they were issued: the yellow-flaggers, then Glock, then Kovalainen.

  9. James Bennett said on 3rd October 2009, 13:20

    I have worked out the following grid:

    1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull
    2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota
    3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren
    4. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber
    5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari
    6. Nico Rosberg, Williams
    7. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber
    8. Adrian Sutil, Force India (Pen)
    9. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP (Pen)
    10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso
    11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren
    12. Jenson Button, Brawn GP (Pen)
    13. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari
    14. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso (Pen)
    15. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams
    16. Romain Grosjean, Renault
    17. Fernando Alonso, Renault (Pen)
    18. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India
    19. Timo Glock, Toyota (Pitlane)
    20. Mark Webber, Red Bull (Pitlane)

    Jenson Button, Rubens Barrichello, Adrian Sutil, Fernando Alono – penalties for failing to slow adequately (if at all) under yellow flags

    Sebastien Buemi – penalty for impeding other cars and causing a potential hazard to other drivers

    Heikki Kovalainen – penalty for a gearbox change

    Timo Glock & Mark Webber – will start from the pitlane because they have had new chassis

    • James Bennett said on 3rd October 2009, 13:24

      Yellow penalties were applied as follows:

      1st – Fernando Alonso (17:52)
      2nd – Rubens Barrichello (18:05)
      3rd – Jenson Button (18:07)
      4th – Adrian Sutil (18:08)
      5th – Sebastien Buemi (19:18)

  10. SaloolaS said on 3rd October 2009, 14:12

    Button will be having a tough time, starting in front of KERS-equiped Giancarlo and Heikki

  11. The strange thing is that Alonso said on TV that he actually saw the flag and slowed down, as proved by his time and by his failure to get on Q3. The others did not, entered Q3 and will start in better positions despite not obeying the yellow flag.
    I wouldn’t say that’s consistent…

    • steph90 said on 3rd October 2009, 14:35

      If Alonso did back off then that is pretty unreasonable but excluding that I think the decision to hand out punishments was right.
      I don’t think Kobayashi should be granted permission to race; no-one stood in for Ferrari in Hungary.

      • iBlaze said on 3rd October 2009, 15:02

        Yeah, but nobody else had done the practise sessions at Hungary for Ferrari so it left them with little choice. Ferrari chose not to ask for force majeure. Here, Toyota were anticipating Glock’s absence anyway (unfortunately it seems it may come for a different reason now). But Kobayashi has already done the friday running so if Toyota do choose to ask for force majeure, they may be granted permission.

        On a side note – I’ve just read that they aren’t going to publish the final grid until tomorrow, so everything is still provisional.

        • steph90 said on 3rd October 2009, 15:52

          I know Ferrari never had anyone in at practice and it’s unfortunate for Toyota but Glock was the one in qualifying not Kobayashi

          • gabal said on 3rd October 2009, 20:22

            Ferrari haven’t even tried to put their reserve driver in the seat. After we saw how Badoer was doing they have made a good choice ;)

    • xjr15jaaag (@xjr15jaaag) said on 12th April 2012, 11:09

      Alonso did back off, but not through the yellow flag area: he backed off when he came across Buemi

  12. Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd October 2009, 15:07

    Confusion reigns!

    Not just here, but in the Suzuka Press Office.

    The FIA have annouced that the grid will be resolved in the morning, with the penalties applied in the order they were issued. It seems there is some contention over precisely when Glock and Kovalainen received theirs.

  13. SaloolaS said on 3rd October 2009, 15:09

    In what order do they start from pits, if there are more drivers (let’s say there will be KOB and WEB tomorrow). Who leaves the pits first, KOB or WEB?

  14. nick_jp said on 3rd October 2009, 16:20

    yellow-colored and all other flags should be obligatorily displayed also in the driver’s steering wheel…

  15. So, I go up at 7 AM on a Saturday to watch quali only to now be informed that the actual grid will be presented on Sunday before the race. Thanks again FIA for nothing.

  16. Here is the CONFIRMED grid for tomorrow from http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-source-confirms-adjusted-suzuka-grid/

    1 Vettel
    2 Trulli
    3 Hamilton
    4 Heidfeld
    5 Raikkonen
    6 Barrichello
    7 Sutil
    8 Rosberg
    9 Button
    10 Kubica
    11 Kovalainen
    12 Buemi
    13 Alguersuari
    14 Fisichella
    15 Nakajima
    16 Alonso
    17 Grosjean
    18 Liuzzi
    Pit lane: Webber

  17. Ronman said on 3rd October 2009, 17:47

    Those are lot of stars hehe… what a packed Quali that was… shame about the penalties, but i think it will give an extra spinner to the championship battle…

  18. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 18:33

    Glock will not be starting, according to Adam Cooper: http://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/statuses/4582636757

  19. sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:01

    why is Barichello 6th now???!!!

  20. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 19:01

    OK I’ve taken another look at the grid given the order in which the penalties came out.

    Oddly, it now seems Barrichello will start sixth, ahead of Sutil (because of the order in which the penalties were applied) and actually only losing one place, not five. He is now three places ahead of Button, instead of two.

    You have to ask what is the point of giving someone a five-place grid penalty which works out as only moving them back one place.

    The grid above broadly agrees with that which Adam Cooper has had confirmed by an ‘FIA source’. However he has Buemi and Kovalainen behind Kubica – I think they will start ahead of them.

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