USF1 car undergoes crash test (Video)

There’s been some speculation about how far along USF1 are with their F1 project. A new video released by the team today showing their car’s nose structure undergoing crash testing may help address those concerns.

The team revealed the crash test took place last week, but it’s likely most of the existing teams had crash-tested their designs late in 2009. Lotus had also done so.

With USF1 planning to test in Alabama before joining the other F1 teams at Spain in February, they must be expecting to get the first car finished fairly soon.

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46 comments on USF1 car undergoes crash test (Video)

  1. Prisoner Monkeys said on 9th January 2010, 22:53

    The team revealed the crash test took place last week, but it’s likely most of the existing teams had crash-tested their designs late in 2009.

    That’s what Windsor’s comments about America staying open while Europe shuts down were all about. Because the USA only closes up for four days and Europe does it for eighteen, USF1 get a whole two weeks extra time, and so can run on a different schedule.

    • Which is still complete rubbish anyway. I have no idea where his comment came from, but I, too remember my days at Williams, and the first fire up of a car happening on the 31st of December. You don’t do that with a factory closed for 2 weeks.

  2. sheep said on 9th January 2010, 23:14

    I can see they are trying, but that still isn’t doing much to convince me it’s more than a bunch of amateurs with some excessively powerful desktop computers and an autoclave.

  3. wisenheimer said on 9th January 2010, 23:46

    What about the “All parts which could materially affect the outcome of the test must be fitted to the test structure…” rule of the frontal test!? No Pylons, no front wing middle section?

    • John H said on 10th January 2010, 14:23

      Good point, but I presume they know what they’re doing…

      • wisenheimer said on 10th January 2010, 16:45

        I’m not sure John.
        Everyone does the pretests with pylons and a front wing section (see Lotus for example), because these parts are very crucial for other rules like:

        “The resistance of the test structure must be such that during the impact :
        - the peak deceleration over the first 150mm of deformation does not exceed 10g ;
        - the peak deceleration over the first 60kJ energy absorption does not exceed 20g”

        Tests without those parts fittet doesn’t make sense…unless you plan to drive without front wing. ;-)
        It will be hard, but still there might be enough time to bring the car to grid in time.

  4. christopher (sennaboy3) said on 10th January 2010, 1:35

    Really sheep, you think USF1 is a bunch of amateurs? “Ken Anderson has been a motorsports technology leader. His experiences include designing and constructing multiple Indy 500 and IndyCar Series-winning race cars, operating as technical director for the Ligier and Onyx Formula One teams, extracting max performance from NASCAR stock cars and creating the most advanced rolling-road wind tunnel in the world, the Windshear Wind Tunnel.” and “Windsor’s knowledge goes far deeper than journalism, as he has worked as the Drivers’ and Constructors’ Championship-winning team manager for Williams-Renault, the manager for Ferrari’s F1 chassis and suspension departments and as a consultant for both Nigel Mansell and Carlos Reutemann.”

    I’m really getting fed up with the USF1 isn’t going to make the grid talk…these guys are serious racers, granted, they aren’t going to win races in year 1, but can we please stop the American bashing before they even take the grid? oh, that’s right they won’t make it there anyway…bah bah

    • Macca said on 10th January 2010, 1:56

      I totaly agree. I’m not even American and I am getting sick of these people have cracks at the team when they don’t know the full story. Yes they might not win races, but they won’t be at the back all the time either.

      • Scribe said on 10th January 2010, 14:52

        Er, they won’t win races. I will literally bet on this one. Brawn is not a qualified example of this happening and we all know why.

        Anyways, It’s all media speculation, which unfortunately is a part of our world. Because USF1 are the quiet team, they’re the most speculated upon.

        Regardless I don’t expect them to do badly per se but you’ve got to say it’s USF1 and Campos Meta that look like they might be the true back markers of the grid. That said, Virgins totaly CFD scheeme might back fire, Lotus has an enourmously big mouth on it which could easily come back to haunt them. All told i think the established team they’re going to be hunting will be Torro Rosso.

    • sheep said on 10th January 2010, 15:14

      You make it sound like they have a lot of experience of telling other people what to do, rather than doing it.

      I don’t want them to fail, but I think they will. I fear that F1 on a shoestring just isn’t going to work.

  5. Yeah, I’ve been wondering where this trend of bagging the USF1 team has come from. Seems unfounded to me. Peter Windsor seems very unpopular – why is that?

    At the risk of almost contradicting my words above, they don’t seem very happy with that test!

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 10th January 2010, 8:41

      Yeah, I’ve been wondering where this trend of bagging the USF1 team has come from. Seems unfounded to me. Peter Windsor seems very unpopular – why is that?

      I’ve been wondering that too. His race reports for F1 Racing had a particular style and he holds strong opinions which puts some people off. So I think there’s an element of people wanting him to fail.

      For what it’s worth I want to see them get on the grid and do well and give the America’s small but passionate F1 following the team it deserves.

      • Macca said on 10th January 2010, 9:46

        Here in Australia for the local broadcas (One HD) he would always produce a very good pre race report and I enjoyed listening to what he had to say.

      • gospeedracer said on 11th January 2010, 7:42

        Could be an underlying anti-American resentment of Bush era politics.

        Or this notion that all Americans are NASCAR loving fans (HA!) and how dare they dilute the F1 brand with a bunch of obnoxious tobacco chewing rednecks. The other teams are not receiving the same criticism because they are Europeans and are therefore more acceptable for the establishment.

  6. racerdude7730 said on 10th January 2010, 2:51

    I have said it since day one people who open their mouths up about stuff are always just the haters. They just need to find something bad to say about something and someone. Its sad bc they make all these points about how they are not doing this or that without looking and saying facts that are so off its not even funny. They were comparing different stuff to the other teams yet the funny thing is they were comp. wrong about it. They dont seem to look into anything befor they say it. Everyone talks about americans not knowing anything about F1 is crazy. Alot of the parts and a ton of the tech. comes from american companiens. The wind tunnel that alot of the F1 teams use is about 20 mins from USF1 also but they dont have what they need to test the car….yea sure. what do you guys think they will all say when they do make it to the grid after saying for a year they wont. whats the next thing they will bash? that we finished last a few times? we already know that. i cant stand people lol

  7. racerdude7730 said on 10th January 2010, 2:55

    just had to add one more thing. People were also saying how the shop didnt look like a F1 shop. Well thats bs whats it matter if you have all the little pretty stuff on the walls? thats not what builds a car its the people working there and the tools not how pretty it looks. Also the building they are in is an old nascar shop to one of the best and biggest teams the shop is huge its a really nice place. Another thing is this is a new team never raced a thing befor the other new teams coming in have been racing and have shops already. Thats why they may have shops that look a little better they are not started up from nothing. USF1 is. Its not about the look its about the car guys and girls

    • Monad said on 10th January 2010, 3:25

      Dude i think you need to chill out. Many just make comments about USF1 with a little humor, don’t go all crazy and patriotic on us.
      Even if we believe that USF1 is gonna be on the grid we still like making a few jokes about the toasters just for the fun of it since it’s a current joke. It’s just funny. So relax.

      • I have not seen too many comments that are humorous. Mostly know-it-all comments from people that seem irritated.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 10th January 2010, 8:38

      People were also saying how the shop didnt look like a F1 shop.

      None of the comments here say that.

      • Chazzers said on 11th January 2010, 6:59

        Ha! Well said Keith. Congrats on your retirement from the 9 to 5 world, btw. I never though I’d say it but the site is 100% better, can’t wait until you have some real news to report.

  8. sato113 said on 10th January 2010, 3:05

    its a breath of fresh air when F1 teams show the public what happens behind the scenes.

  9. thestig84 said on 10th January 2010, 3:14

    I agree its time to cut them some slack.

    Only thing is if they come up with a half decent car, will they have the drivers to make the most of it? That Lopez guy seems to be a cash driven choice and I dont see a top name joining him! Any thoughts?

  10. CompositeKen said on 10th January 2010, 4:04

    What the video doesn’t tell you is that both the nose and side impact panel tests both failed their dummy tests.

    The reason the parts aren’t fitted to a test structure or tub is…it hasn’t been completed yet.

    Sorry, but someone please explain how are they going to test at Barber in 4 weeks when they haven’t passed any of the required tests?

    Maybe Ken has more up his sleeve than his highly embellished resume.

    Don’t believe that? Look up the Indy winner records and see if you can find him mentioned anywhere as Chief Engineer for a one, let alone 5 wins. Nigel Bennet and alan jenkins are listed in everything I can find

    http://www.teamdan.com/people/j.html

    Anybody ever wonder how he could design shocks for Penske Shock and WilliamsF1 team and be Chief Engineer for Mears at the same time?

    Better yet, find somewhere where he’s named as the Chief Designer of the ’97 G-Force–you can find many names associated with it….but not his.

    He was involved..but he wasn’t Chief or lead designer on any component save a shock or bit of suspension. Ask Penske or Arie. Aries was Tim Wardrop

    http://www.nofenders.net/2007/10/doctor-doctor.html

    http://insideracingtechnology.com/indyganasi.htm

    http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/the-forgotten-chassis/

    The Falcon…ask people involved what the problem was a Falcon…Anderson’s disappearing act

    Search Ken Anderson and G Force…hmmm. the only thing you come up with is his self-proclaimed genius—does anyone remember that car…most people would run from a car so horribly turned out. I guess some writer should do some due dilience and ask Chip Ganassi who owned G Force in ’97 before he sold it to Panoz in 1998

    How did he go from shock/designer engineer a year ago to Cheif Engineer? Any one notice how Ken’s resume grew from this original story to today’s website…we’ve all read about people’s resumes being embellished once they get away with it once…http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7080.msg49722

    Doesn’t anyone do their homework anymore?

  11. Robert said on 10th January 2010, 6:48

    Anyone for some nose shards? Well, there you have it. The USF1 Team has crash tested. I am not familiar with the FIA crash testing regulations. Did this test meet the prescribed standards? If not, what’s next?

    • seemed to have some of the unit whole (the base of the unit) so that is a pass as far as I understand.
      If all of the nose fully let go then that would be a fail.

      • wisenheimer said on 10th January 2010, 18:41

        There are a lot more values that are monitored during a crash test…you can’t tell if a crashtest was successful or not just by watching a video.
        Chapter 16 of the F1 regulations tells all the details.
        In this case I would say it was probably a fail, because there were no pylons and no front wing section mounted…unless (as mentioned above) they want to race without a front wing or they have a stunning new technique to fix it to the car without the need to homologate it.
        To build a car which looks like a F1 car is one thing…to get it homologated in time is the other…

  12. F1Yankee said on 10th January 2010, 8:20

    here come all of the anonymous internet experts, with their imaginary degrees in business and engineering, fabricating reasons to bash americans. good for you!

  13. Mouse_Nightshirt said on 10th January 2010, 12:40

    I think our stateside cousins need to calm down a bit and stop being so defensive. USF1 are not the first team to get a considerable amount of flak, but I don’t ever recall such harsh defensiveness on any other topic.

    • gospeedracer said on 12th January 2010, 1:12

      “USF1 are not the first team to get a considerable amount of flak”

      Prove it.

      I read no bashing of Campos or Lotus to the degree the Americans are getting. Sorry brother, we’re not going to just stand there and take it.

  14. One thing that surprises me is that this team is having one real asset – its wind tunnel, a good one, state-of-art, they where so proud at the start. And this is exactly what they are not going to use to build their car. Windsor says only CFD, like Wirth’s Virgin. Also they promised a ‘roller’ long ago, like October or November. Has anyone actually saw it? There is work going on there, no doubt, but it doesn’t seem to be going according to the initial plan. Same about drivers choice, experienced drivers are out of their list. I personally don’t find anything exciting about this team anymore.

  15. John H said on 10th January 2010, 14:43

    Their front wing end plates look quite interesting by the way:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrHk0EmQP0

    A lot of the snobbish attitude is because (to me anyway) US sport *in general* is based on image, massive point scores and a certain feeling of tackiness that I cannot explain. Yes I am a bit of a European snob, I won’t deny it, but that’s just how I see US sport – I’m sure others see it differently.

    Also, the US is renowned for designing and manufacturing cars that cannot go around corners. Seen as F1 has more corners than ever thanks to Tilke, perhaps that is one reason why they aren’t being taken that seriously.

    I’m sure they’ll be racing though no question.

    • Mouse_Nightshirt said on 10th January 2010, 17:49

      I think John has hit it on the head.

      The impression I get about USF1 is that it’s purely image based. They are overly “upfront” about what they’re doing and it’s a completely alien concept to me; F1 teams are historically very secretive.

      Campos Meta and Lotus are quietly working away yet the news is they are much further along the line. Maybe USF1 just need to seal their lips and get on with it, as with all rumours, there is usually no smoke without fire.

    • To be brutally honest, till the epitome of the European car, the Ferrari, started using science and maths, the handling of their cars was frankly frightening.

    • John H, do you really think that an F1 car being designed in the US has anything at all to do with American road cars (many of which handle very well)?? They are not using some 1987 Buick for their suspension/handling designs.

      Also, the only snobbish attitudes seem to be coming from the people that are bashing USF1. Constructive criticism is one thing, but blatant bashing (i.e. calling the USA tacky, or implying that the US is incapable of creating an F1 car) is incredibly childish and snobbish. Please go through the comments and tell me where the US F1Fanatics are being ‘snobs’….

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