Ten drivers get penalties, Alonso and Rosberg gain extra points (Updated)

Nine drivers have been handed time penalties after the European Grand Prix.

All the drivers investigated for the speed behind the safety car received five-second penalties: Jenson Button, Nico H???lkenberg, Rubens Barrichello, Robert Kubica, Vitaly Petrov, Adrian Sutil, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Sebastien Buemi and Pedro de la Rosa.

Timo Glock also got a 20 second penalty for ignoring blue flags.

The penalties promote Fernando Alonso ahead of Buemi and Nico Rosberg claims the final point instead of Pedro de la Rosa.

Update: the stewards explained the punishments as follows:

The Stewards received a report from the Race Director regarding [the cars] failing to stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU when the Safety Car was deployed,

The Stewards met with the [drivers and team representatives], considered the evidence and decided that this was a breach of Article 40.7 of the 2010 Formula One Sporting Regulations.

Article 40.7 of the sporting regulations says:

All competing cars must then reduce speed and form up in line behind the safety car no more than ten car lengths apart. In order to ensure that drivers reduce speed sufficiently, from the time at which the ??SAFETY CAR DEPLOYED?? message is shown on the timing monitors until the time that each car crosses the first safety car line for the first time, drivers must stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU.

Nico Rosberg escaped a penalty for a similar infringement in the Japanese Grand Prix last year when the stewards decided he had not been able to see the target lap time.

Here is the revised finishing order of the race:

Pos. # Driver Team
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull
2 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren
3 1 Jenson Button McLaren
4 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams
5 11 Robert Kubica Renault
6 14 Adrian Sutil Force India
7 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber
8 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
9 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso
10 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
11 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari
12 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber
13 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso
14 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault
15 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes
16 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India
17 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin
18 24 Timo Glock Virgin
19 20 Karun Chandhok HRT
20 21 Bruno Senna HRT
21 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus

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151 comments on Ten drivers get penalties, Alonso and Rosberg gain extra points (Updated)

  1. YeaMon said on 27th June 2010, 18:22

    You guys are just mad that this promotes Ferrari in the results.

    These team cheated, and are now being penalized. If this would have happened, and McLaren was the ones getting huge out to dry there would have been an uproar for these teams to get penalties. Just be happy Hamilton keeps that 2nd spot, he got of scot free.

    • Tiomkin said on 27th June 2010, 19:32

      Did you read ANY of the comments here?

      Clue: unique, brand new, not in the rule book 5 second penalties.

  2. George said on 27th June 2010, 18:27

    For those complaining about the Schumacher incident, it’s a different offence, that was for overtaking under safety car conditions, this is just for speeding.

    It seems fair to me, didn’t Rosberg get off with this at Suzuka last year?

  3. Kurt said on 27th June 2010, 18:29

    Wow, what a race… penalties after the race, cheating, no punishment for those who break the rules, and if there was penalty , yeah after 20 laps??, this was a joke… and once again the cheaters gets away with it

    • YeaMon said on 27th June 2010, 18:39

      Exactly, and the 5 seconds these car were given are nothing compared to doing a drive through.

  4. sasbus said on 27th June 2010, 18:39

    Penalties??? How about penalizing the stewards?

  5. mharries said on 27th June 2010, 18:44

    From what I understand it’s marginal whether the drivers should have got any penalties at all – if they were given the order to slow down to a delta time on the last section of a lap it’s not realistic, or indeed safe, for them to slow that much to be able to make the delta time.

    The penalty given is clearly intended to prevent the race order from changing too much, with only Buemi (-2 points) and De La Rosa (-1 point) losing out, and Alonso (+2 points) and Rosberg (+1 point) benefiting – but if I were Buemi or De La Rosa I’d actually feel a little hard done by.

    The penalty was by and large fair enough though, as technically there was an infringement, and comparing it to Schumacher’s penalty at Monaco just highlights the inconsistency of stewards – not that because one resulted in a set penalty the other should have been the same – personally I think the Schumacher penalty was a little hard.

  6. disjunto said on 27th June 2010, 18:50

    Can someone actually explain what these guys did wrong?

    From what I saw it was going to fast on the SC in lap, which is my eyes won’t give you any gains in the race at all, due to being stuck behind people anyway and would probably be better penalised with fines

    • Hotbottoms said on 27th June 2010, 18:54

      Going fast on the SC lap gives you advantage if you pit on that lap (obviously). I don’t know if these guys did pit, but this rule exists because drivers used to rush to pits when SC came out.

      • disjunto said on 27th June 2010, 19:10

        what I saw on the screen was that it was the SC IN lap, which to me means the lap the SC comes in. Did I read that wrong then?

  7. Hotbottoms said on 27th June 2010, 18:52

    Why wasn’t Schumi given 5 second (or 1 place) penalty in Monaco? I thought giving less than 25 second penalty wasn’t possible?

  8. Red Andy (@red-andy) said on 27th June 2010, 18:53

    What do people think would have happened if it was just one driver who was caught speeding behind the safety car? Would they have got a 5-second penalty? Or would they have been given a drive-through?

    I think the fact that so many drivers were caught out made the stewards go easier on them collectively. Personally I’d rather that each incident was viewed independently and punished accordingly.

    • Steph90 (@steph90) said on 27th June 2010, 19:42

      Far too sensible ;)

      If it’s the rules than fair enough but ti does seem a bit…light hearted in my view.

      Actually because it says ” drivers must stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU” and if they don’t do that should they get time added? :P Just kidding of course!

  9. fox said on 27th June 2010, 18:59

    So many smart people in this sport and yet, all the rules and decisions seem to be made by apes.

    There isn’t any kind of coherence in decisions between races and this just infuriates everyone…

  10. silencer said on 27th June 2010, 19:05

    only 5 sec penalty???!!??

    what has happened to F1 Rules and regulations?
    better dump all the rules and regulations all together

  11. hamilzors said on 27th June 2010, 19:10

    You should investigate in an article how come so many drivers were able to pass the ferraris despite delta lap times. Bug in the rules?

  12. Louis said on 27th June 2010, 19:21

    Maybe part of the problem is that there are too many rules. When an attempt is made to legislate each and ever thing that can possibly happen during a race this sort of inconsistancy is bond to happen. Let’s return to racing on the track not in the stewards room

  13. disjunto said on 27th June 2010, 19:26

    so they were punished for driving too slow behind a SC…. oookay, surely one of them slowing would force the people being to slow aswell? making Button more to blame than Buemi?

  14. mildertduck said on 27th June 2010, 19:28

    This penalty wasn’t for going too fast behind the safety car (clearly a safety risk) – http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/on_event.aspx indicates that it was for “failing to stay above the minimum lap time” – i.e. travelling too slowly… how bizzare, do they get a penalty if they have to stop on the track to let (say) an ambulance cross it when the safety car is out?

    • tvm said on 27th June 2010, 22:37

      just weird wording I think:

      Lap time around 1:38

      SC -> Minimum lap time i.e. 1:50, they have to stay above 1:50

  15. Nuevo said on 27th June 2010, 19:37

    I dont understand…isnt the SC suppoed to pick up the leader? They used to wave everyone thru until the leader came up, then everyone formed, same position, until the SC exited the track???? On replay, it sure looked as if the SC picked up the Ferrari’s??? If this was done correctly, why wasnt Ham and Alonso both back there same position as b4 the SC???? Whether 8 and 9th or 2nd 3rd…they shouldve been same position….Mabey someone smarter than me can clarify this….I mean, whether you like Ferrari or not, it was rather blatant…and in watching F1 for 30 years, Ive never seen a 5 second penalty…No matter who you cheer for, this race was a mess..

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