Red Bull: Newey relieved after “scariest race ever”

2011 Belgian GP team review

Red Bull had grave tyre worries but Pirelli said the blistering was caused by their set-up.

Sebastian Vettel Mark Webber
Qualifying position 1 3
Qualifying time comparison (Q3) 1’48.298 (-1.078) 1’49.376
Race position 1 2
Laps 44/44 44/44
Pit stops 3 2

Red Bull drivers’ lap times throughout the race (in seconds):

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2011drivercolours.csv
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44
Sebastian Vettel 120.172 117.207 115.708 116.102 119 127.467 114.733 113.924 114.594 116.335 114.916 114.389 125.285 178.399 173.482 169.576 114.737 112.281 111.974 112.332 112.447 112.586 112.66 113.052 112.945 112.873 112.936 113.022 113.614 116.642 124.205 111.015 111.357 111.552 112.239 110.451 111.283 111.122 110.681 110.829 111.275 111.404 111.362 110.728
Mark Webber 124.253 117.646 121.062 126.665 114.957 116.277 116.306 114.215 116.039 116.147 117.384 113.876 125.572 166.828 173.734 170.15 115.69 114.217 113.388 113.139 113.51 113.325 113.421 113.044 113.44 113.108 113.387 113.671 114.06 113.773 117.468 123.128 109.883 110.402 110.51 111.43 110.264 110.427 109.995 110.531 110.758 110.934 110.407 110.213

Red Bull were not the only team concerned about how worn their tyres – which they had to start the race on – were after qualifying. McLaren and Toro Rosso had also seen blistering on their tyres.

But Vettel’s public remonstration with one of Pirelli’s technicians in the paddock before the start of the race highlighted how concerned they were about the situation.

After the race Adrian Newey explained their worries: “Pirelli came to us and said that having looked at our tyres from qualifying they were very concerned about the safety of the tyres, they were suffering structural damage in the junction between the sidewall and the tread, and felt that failure of the tyre could be imminent on both cars.

“It was very concerning. We then entered into a lot of debate with Pirelli as to what we should do. They recommended that higher front [air] pressure would make the tyre safer, as would reduced camber.

“Without permission from the FIA, reducing front camber would be in breach of parc ferme regulations, therefore we would have to start from the pit lane. Equally, the FIA weren’t willing to consider our tyres damaged, and therefore weren’t willing to allow us to start on a different set from that we qualified on.

“So our choice was to do what we could to make the tyre safer, which was to go to a much higher front pressure, particularly on that first set, that potentially were damaged after qualifying. Not using DRS helps, because the damage is a function of speed and load. With DRS of course, [there's] similar load at the front, it’s only the rear wing that loses load, and you’re going a lot faster.”

Newey added: “It was one of the scariest races I’ve been involved in, ever.

“Obviously, first and foremost our duty of care is to the drivers’ safety. And you’re trying to make that call of making sure the car is safe while not excessively handicapping yourselves from a performance point of view. I found it quite a difficult judgement to make.

“Frankly, at the end of the race, I was just very relieved that both our drivers were safe.”

However Pirelli refuted Red Bull’s claim of structural damage and insisted the problem was related to their set-up. Motorsport director Paul Hembery said: “There was an issue with the front tyre blistering but we are confident that a similar scenario will not arise again, provided that our usage recommendations are followed.

“Of course, if any team had been concerned about their situation, they had the option to change their set-up and start from the pit lane. However, the majority of teams felt that no change was necessary.

“The problem was seemingly a consequence of some cars placing an excessive load on the inner shoulder of the front tyre due to their set-up and so overheating the compound, but it did not at all affect the structural integrity of the tyre.

“As there was no safety issue and because it would have been unfair to the teams that were unaffected, the decision was taken to start with the qualifying tyres as per the usual regulations.”

Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Spa-Francorchamps, 2011

Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Spa-Francorchamps, 2011

Sebastian Vettel

Vettel claimed pole position for the ninth time this year with a fine late effort in qualifying: “I didn?t feel comfortable at the beginning of qualifying, but for Q2 I think we made a big step forward and I rediscovered Spa in a way!

“In the last session, I used the first two laps of Q3 to get temperature into the tyres and then for the last two I tried to push as hard as I could.”

Vettel discarded his first set of tyres after just five laps. But using the higher pressures he was able to spend 17 laps on his third set of soft tyres during the race.

He had made his way back to the front by lap lap 11, passing Nico Rosberg with a brave move around the outside of Blanchimont.

Vettel was handed a boost by the arrival of the safety car, allowing him to make his second pit stop while losing less time to his rivals.

At the restart he quickly passed Mark Webber and then took Fernando Alonso for the lead. He accomplished the latter without using DRS, presumably to spare his tyres as Newey described.

He made his final stop for mediums on lap 30, passing Button and taking the lead back on the next lap.

His seventh win increased his championship lead to 92 points with 175 left to be won. Worryingly for the opposition, Vettel feels the RB7 is now better equipped to be competitive on high speed tracks like Spa where the team have not been as strong in the past.

He said after the race: “I think in the past we were always quick here in sector two where there are no straights and a lot of corners. The thing that stands out this year is that we were quite competitive in sector one and sector three, where we have more straights.”

Sebastian Vettel 2011 form guide

Mark Webber, Red Bull, Spa-Francorchamps, 2011

Mark Webber, Red Bull, Spa-Francorchamps, 2011

Mark Webber

Webber celebrated his 35th birthday on Saturday and formally announced his deal to continue with Red Bull in 2012.

He was quick in practice and led the way late in Q3 to begin with before Vettel and Lewis Hamilton pipped him at the end. “I think I went a bit too hard on the slicks initially in Q3,” said Webber.

Webber made a dreadful start, the anti-stall activating as he slipped from third to eighth on the first lap.

On lap three he pitted to change his tyres which had even worse blistering than Vettel’s did. Unlike Vettel, he switched to the medium compound.

Fernando Alonso came out of the pits in front of him on lap nine and Webber snatched the place with an astoundingly brave and committed move at Eau Rouge:

“It?s more rewarding when you can do it with someone like Fernando because he?s a world-class driver and he knows when enough is enough,” said Webber afterwards. “Obviously my attitude might have been a bit different with someone else.”

“I was breathing in at the bottom, I got in and I looked in the mirror at the top and I saw he was still in?? well, he had no choice, obviously in the end he had to… one of us had to lift and I had a slightly better line and it was he who had to lift.”

But he missed the opportunity to make an extra pit-stop during the safety car period: “We had a bit of a stuff-up on the radio.

“I was supposed to pit when Seb did with the safety car but we had a completely blocked radio. I was asking three times in the Bus Stop, ??do you want me to stop, do you want me to stop? and gave them the radio back but I heard nothing.”

That left him to do a 28-lap stint – more than half the race – on the medium tyres: “It was a long stint given the misunderstanding with the pit-stop around the safety car, so we had to commit to going very, very long on that set of tyres.

“I had a very, very big vibration on them, which is not unusual but that cleared up when I put the fresh set on.”

Webber stayed on medium tyres for his final, 13-lap stint despite Vettel having done 17 laps on a set of softs earlier in the race, suggesting the team still had some concerns over tyre life late in the race.

He picked off Alonso for second place with eight laps to go but wasn’t quick enough to close the gap to Vettel. The soft tyres would surely have given him the performance edge he needed, but it’s not certain they would have gone the distance.

Mark Webber 2011 form guide

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66 comments on Red Bull: Newey relieved after “scariest race ever”

  1. Does any one know the size of F1 tires…I would like to workout the camber math.

  2. Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 29th August 2011, 16:57

    “It was one of the scariest races I’ve been involved in, ever”

    What about IMOLA 1994

  3. Trenthamfolk (@trenthamfolk) said on 29th August 2011, 19:42

    haha… stick it to them @Ino

  4. The Last Pope said on 30th August 2011, 0:06

    I would have thought Adrian would have been more scared in 2005 as he watched Kimi Raikkonen’s flat spotted tire over a number of laps develop into this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6cd9PU6_-M&feature=related

  5. wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 30th August 2011, 5:25

    That move was awesome,thankfully it was between two drivers who have sense in them & know the world around them

  6. f1geordie said on 30th August 2011, 14:12

    Why did this blistering problem happen at Spa and not anywhere else?

  7. If Newey and the RBR team were that worried, they should have started from the pits. Safety is paramount. Pushing the boundaries is fine so long as it is safe to do so, but this was a clear recommendation from the tire supplier saying its not safe to go outside of this recommendation. Plain stupid by Newey and the team, in no way was this a clever thing to do.

  8. “I was supposed to pit when Seb did with the safety car but we had a completely blocked radio. I was asking three times in the Bus Stop, ‘do you want me to stop, do you want me to stop’ and gave them the radio back but I heard nothing.”

    That left him to do a 28-lap stint – more than half the race – on the medium tyres: “It was a long stint given the misunderstanding with the pit-stop around the safety car, so we had to commit to going very, very long on that set of tyres.

    “I had a very, very big vibration on them, which is not unusual but that cleared up when I put the fresh set on.”

    Wow, a very unlucky time to have your radio stop working.

    Very unlucky indeed…

  9. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 30th August 2011, 22:03

    Webber got the fastest lap.

    This displays just how much Vettel conserves himself when he’s in the lead. Clearly his car is capable of the same, and Vettel himself more, given his qualifying pace. You could visibly see him coasting some of the final corners. This goes to show just how brilliant a driver he is.

    A thoroughly deserved victory for Vettel and it was good to see him over-take Alonso, albeit on fresher tyres.

  10. antonyob said on 1st September 2011, 9:24

    is there no way to post the webbber overtake on alonso? nothing seems to make it onto youtube these days. It was probably as brave an overtake as ive seen. Stefan Bellof (rip) died trying to overtake jackie Ickx in the same place and whilst im sure that wasnt on Webbers mind, ive never seen an overtake there, amazing. lets see it !

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