Schumacher passes Alonso and more Monza moments
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Schumacher tries to pass Alonso at the Rettifilio
Michael Schumacher’s off-track pass on Fernando Alonso at the Rettifilio was not shown during the race
But footage of the moment was captured by a fan at the first corner.
See that and more in this collection of the best fans’ videos from Monza.
The banking
The past merges with the present at Monza. Spectators at the first turn look over the old banking towards turn one:
HRT pit stop practice
HRT have been losing more time in the pits than any other team. But they keep on practising:
The start
This side-on view of the top four cars shows how good Fernando Alonso’s start was and how poor Jenson Button’s was. The Ferrari was past the McLaren before they reached the starting line.
Alonso grabs the lead at the first corner, prompting a cheer from the crowd:
The first-lap crash
Heading to the first corner, Vitantonio Liuzzi makes sure the HRT pit crew don’t have to worry about changing his tyres:
The restart
As the race gets going again, Vettel chases Alonso into Parabolica but Lewis Hamilton has fallen into Schumacher’s clutches:
Webber’s Red Bull
Mark Webber crashed at the Parabolica early on in the race. Here’s video of his car afterwards
Schumacher (briefly) passes Alonso
While the TV cameras were showing replays of Webber’s crash, Schumacher briefly got ahead of Alonso.
As this video shows, he ran too deep into the Rettifilio chicane on lap six, cutting the corner and passing the Ferrari.
Having cut the corner he let Alonso past again. As the world feed cut back from replays Schumacher was attacking Alonso again at the della Roggia chicane:
Ascari
Plenty of passing going on in the DRS zone heading to Ascari:
The podium
Monza surely has the best podium in Formula 1. Here’s footage of Alonso celebrating with the crowd:
From hospitality
It pays to be connected. Here’s some well-edited footage from the hospitality suite adjacent to the start/finish line. Includes some great close-ups of the drivers pre-race:
So far it seems no-one captured any footage of Felipe Massa, Jarno Trulli and Sebastien Buemi colliding at the della Roggia on lap five.
If you’ve found or shot footage of that, or any other action from Monza, please share it by email, using Twitter or leave a comment below.
2011 Italian Grand Prix
- Sebastian Vettel named Driver of the Weekend for Monza
- Rate the race result: 2011 Italian Grand Prix
- FIA steward Daly says Schumacher should have had penalty
- 2011 Italian Grand Prix: complete race weekend review
- Vote for your Italian GP driver of the weekend
- Red Bull: Vettel poised to clinch second title
- McLaren: Button leads Hamilton home again
- Ferrari: Alonso admits “the title is gone”
- Mercedes: Schumacher fifth after Hamilton battle
- Renault: Senna claims first points finish
Image © Daimler
TheVillainF1 said on 13th September 2011, 10:53
great stuff, but how sad is it that FOM can’t provide us with better coverage that we have to turn to youtube to find out what happened.
snowman said on 13th September 2011, 11:35
Ya, I agree, I know they can’t be everywhere all the time but it can’t be that hard to stick a replay clip in especially of something like Schumi and Alonso!
Probably the next thing they will try to do is have a copyright of any footage taken within the confines of the track!!
matt90 (@matt90) said on 13th September 2011, 13:38
I’m pretty sure they do that already, which is why a lot of videos get taken down.
snowman said on 13th September 2011, 13:40
Think its just anything from their feed that are taken down.
Could be wrong but didn’t think they could take down personal videos.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th September 2011, 13:49
They have tried to have videos shot by fans taken down in the past but some users have successfully challenged them:
F1 fan beats FOM over right to upload video from Grand Prix weekends
Last time I checked all the ones from Spa were still up:
Leimer’s crash and in the pits at McLaren – fans’ videos from Spa
I wouldn’t take anything for granted, but if FOM have realised that these videos pose no threat to their income streams, in fact, are a good way of promoting themselves that would be a good thing. Having them taken down is just cutting their nose to spite their face.
snowman said on 13th September 2011, 14:52
That’s unbelievable they had YouTube take down that footage!
Like you say it does nothing but promote the sport and the atmosphere comes across so much better. It would help if the main feed they show on TV wasn’t so incredibly bad.
Example is Schumacher alongside Alonso up the straight then into the corner side by side is great viewing yet they miss it and don’t even show a replay. Ferrari’s old and new king side by side fighting for 2nd position in Italy and the director doesn’t even show it!
Really wish Bernie and the clowns at FOM would get their act together and spend time getting their coverage better(ALOT) rather than wasting energy trying to police YouTube.
Looking at the way things are handled it is surprising they didn’t tuck F1 away on Sky long ago were the vast majority can’t see it.
matt90 (@matt90) said on 13th September 2011, 15:45
Perhaps they don’t like to show how incompetent they are by letting fans film better coverage of several incidents than FOM do.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th September 2011, 21:33
I just hope FOM keeps its fingers off of footage made by paying visitors, (unless they try to sell it, off course)!
At least we get to see quite a lot more overtakes and actions from fan videos. That shot of the DRS zone was really revealing, it had what, 6 passes in a minute’s footage?
joey-poey said on 13th September 2011, 19:07
Yes, but notice that the Schumi-Alonso moment happened when they did “stick a replay clip in” of Webber’s accident (as was said above). They were already doing what you were asking for, just with something else. In a season like this one, it’d be a constant game of catch-up showing every single moment like that. Especially considering by the time they cut to Schumacher and Alonso dueling, him missing the chicane and handing the place back wasn’t as important as what was happening in live action. And by the time that action was over, Schumacher’s miss-and-hand-back was inconsequential anyway, hence why it was probably never shown.
Live action sporting events are much like the race: hindsight makes things seem so straight forward and simple. But the reality of the moment and every single factor of what’s happening plays into the split decisions that must be made. I side with the director that he made the right choice not to worry about going back and showing what happened with Schumacher and Alonso at Rettifilio. Pertinent, in-the-moment information is more important to the viewers.
HoHum (@hohum) said on 13th September 2011, 20:53
Perhaps BBC Highlights will be the best coverage.
joey-poey said on 13th September 2011, 21:24
I think people will complain about the coverage regardless, because I see people complain about highlights not showing enough of one team or another. But then I come at it from a different point of view than most, having had to direct broadcasts of live sporting events. I know how stressful and difficult it is to make it all run seamlessly.
snowman said on 13th September 2011, 22:21
@Joey-poey, I understand it is a difficult job but think most would agree they are pretty awful at it. Why don’t they provide split screens at least?
I just picked the Schumi & Alonso as an example but they are always messing it up. As for that clip Webber had gone of at the time and they were showing him getting out of the car live. Then they cut live to just after Schumacher gives the place back to Alonso.
That is all fair enough but the problem is after that they show nothing but live for next couple of minutes with no real action happening of the top 5 cars running after each other, when it was needed to just show 15 second clip of what happened in the run up to Alonso getting 2nd back.
I think it was important to show Schumacher attempting the pass and then cutting the chicane. It was for 2nd place and a vital part of what was happening. We shouldn’t have to find out from a fans YouTube video a couple days later!
Joey-Poey (@joey-poey) said on 14th September 2011, 0:09
I’ve been watching the BBC coverage for close to two years now and I honestly find little fault with it other than the lack of split screen (and the occasional announcer fact-fumble such as getting a driver mixed up with his teammate). Are they behind the times when it comes to the split screen? Yes. But I hardly find it worth crucifying them over. I think this is a case of grass-is-always-greener because I grew up on American broadcasts of racing and had to put up with the constant commercials. Once I began seeing BBC’s nonstop coverage and witty commentator banter, it was a huge breath of fresh air. Now, I much prefer it.
Have you read up on any of the Indy Car races or looked for youtube clips of events lost to the TV cameras? I’m willing to bet much of the same goes on there with events either being missed and/or completely left out. A film cliche is that you have to kill your babies sometimes. Well I’d say it’s equally true for television. it’s a 3 hour program. You can’t fit it all in and not everyone is interested in seeing the same things. It will forever be a compromise.
Steph (@) said on 13th September 2011, 10:55
Great videos Keith. Almost better than what the race director decides to show us… :P
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 13th September 2011, 10:58
Some, err, colourful language when Vettel passes Alonso!
Great collection :-)
matt90 (@matt90) said on 13th September 2011, 16:54
Haha, they did seem impressed though.
Fixy (@fixy) said on 13th September 2011, 17:28
Some more when Webber crashes… “You ******* you took Felipe out!”
joey-poey said on 13th September 2011, 20:49
haha, yeah, I don’t know Italian, yet I felt like I understood some of the words…
Dan Selby said on 13th September 2011, 10:58
Awesome!
FOM needs to sort their coverage out tbh.
Watching Indycar is embarrasing (no, not because of everything being sponsored…), but because F1 pales in comparison.
Why do we not have split screen when two different things are happening?
More onboards?
More experimental shots?
Why isn’t F1 doing this? It’s meant to be the ‘pinnacle of technology’… Don’t forget about the presentation!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th September 2011, 11:01
There was some excellent split-screen footage during that IndyCar race at Baltimore last week.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th September 2011, 21:37
Yeah, the racing feels a tad amateurish at times with Indy, but (apart from having to cope with a horrendous amount of commercial time) they do a really good job of showing the action.
Ben Everard said on 14th September 2011, 8:50
I have to say I’ve never really got into IndyCar, I don’t have Sky Sports (the channel I think it’s shown on over here) either.
But I was really pleased to see IndyCar had put up the highlights of the Baltimore race up on YouTube.
I concur on the point that F1 needs to get with the times, thinking outside the box etc. I didn’t see the helmet cam in the GP2 race, but remember Coulthard’s one in Brazil 2008… looked cool until T1 :D
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 14th September 2011, 8:58
I was a great fan of nineties-era CART. The split inflicted a terrible toll on it and I genuinely hope the post-unification series can get back on its feet.
They have had some very good races this year but it’s still a bit rough around the edges. Certainly looks like being a good battle for the title, though.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 14th September 2011, 11:55
Fully with you there Keith.
The title battle is close, the races have been pretty good (although Infinion was better for a great track than the racing it offered) and they are really giving it a lot of effort to get back to being a great series.
Tyson Evans (@bobtehblob) said on 13th September 2011, 11:10
Even V8 Supercar footage eclipses FOM with ease. They’ve been using split screen footage for as long as I can remember and have some absolutely amazing shots from the inside of the tyres, drivers pedals etc…
Josh said on 13th September 2011, 11:13
I hate to say it, but I wonder whether Sky will poke FOM to try these things…
bosyber said on 13th September 2011, 15:34
I hope they do, then at least everyone that can still see it profits from it.
mfDB said on 13th September 2011, 17:04
Yea, IndyCAr presentation is superior. I also like it when they keep the footage up during commercials.
Sush Meerkat said on 13th September 2011, 11:01
Wait a minute, I’ve always assumed that the banking was behind the grandstand, not in front of it!
My thought process has been wrong all these years due to poor TV coverage!
Fixy (@fixy) said on 13th September 2011, 17:41
I completely forgot about the banking. From the cameras I didn’t see it in front of the grandstands!
Stephen Jones (@aus_steve) said on 13th September 2011, 11:01
love the videos! especially love hearing the crowd whenever Ferrari does something awesome!
it’s no coincidence that both my favorite moments of 2011 have been Alonso’s starts..
damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 13th September 2011, 11:09
Nice article Keith and some good finds!
As for the Massa/Trulli/Buemi collision, I haven’t been able to find any footage, but this photo gives you a good idea of what happened.
Josh said on 13th September 2011, 11:14
:O that’s a Sutton image that doesn’t have SUTTON in enormous letters ruining it!!!
Fixy (@fixy) said on 13th September 2011, 15:30
That’s a full-sized version of a Sutton photo seen on Formula1.com.
damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 14th September 2011, 22:03
Yep, let me know if you want me to teach you how to decode the links, guys! ;)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th September 2011, 11:21
Yeah, that’s all I’ve seen of it so far. Does rather look like Massa was cutting across Trulli, but without seeing a video or some more pictures I’ll reserve judgement.
timtoo (@timtoo) said on 13th September 2011, 11:09
how long before FOM takes down these amazing videos? these videos make me want to go back to Silverstone and they should use them to really sell the tickets at the venues that never sell out!
Tyson Evans (@bobtehblob) said on 13th September 2011, 11:14
You don’t know how bad these videos make me want to finally go and see an F1 race. 2013 Australian GP here I come!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th September 2011, 11:19
That’s forward planning!
JohnBt said on 13th September 2011, 11:20
I don’t think it’s possible to cover every angle of a circuit. But the director can show the more important parts though.
Marco said on 13th September 2011, 11:24
I would like to see how Jaime overtook both Sergio and Pastor in the same lap, but it looks like there is no coverage of that situation… :(
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th September 2011, 21:39
Might have been in the shot of those DRS passes?
Hamish said on 13th September 2011, 11:31
I’m sure a few folk from other teams will be looking at that video of Webbers car on the crane with interest, especially the rear.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th September 2011, 21:40
A bit like everyone finally getting to understand what Red Bull were doing last year after Valencia, also bades on footage of Webbers car up in the air!
fatbloke said on 13th September 2011, 11:33
i was wondering how many teams got chance to get some photos of the underside of webbers car? bet redbull wernt happy with having it left in the air like that
HoHum (@hohum) said on 13th September 2011, 21:00
And so close to Ferrari headquarters, what a coincidence.
bearforce1 said on 13th September 2011, 12:54
Brilliant article, thanks heaps. So much happening we don’t see.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th September 2011, 12:58
Comment form Hamish moved here