New Jersey Grand Prix expected to be announced on Tuesday

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New York 2013 F1 track plan

New Jersey 2013 F1 track plan

Formula 1 is poised to confirm a second race in the USA.

The Wall Street Journal reports a press conference will be held on Tuesday is expected to announce plans for a race in New Jersey beginning in 2013.

This would be the second American round of the championship alongside the Austin Grand Prix, which will take place for the first time next year.

Provisional plans for a circuit were revealed in August:

If the project comes to fruition it will realise Bernie Ecclestone’s long-held plans for a race in the New York area.

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191 comments on New Jersey Grand Prix expected to be announced on Tuesday

  1. HUHHII (@huhhii) said on 22nd October 2011, 11:48

    Oh god. No more street circuits, please…

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd October 2011, 13:07

      @huhhii – the beauty of this circuit is that there is pretty much no room for run-off. The barriers will be very close to the cars, and the circuit layout looks like it’s loaded with fast corners. Plus, there’s a massive elevation changes across the circuit. So it will be a proper street circuit; not despairingly flat with agonising sequences of slow bends and acres of run-off.

  2. Alehud42 (@alehud42) said on 22nd October 2011, 11:53

    I’m going to pose one question:
    Which other track is going to be dropped for this?

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd October 2011, 12:00

      Well, Korea have said that they want to re-negotiate the terms of their contract because they think it is too expensive. Bernie might use that to justify dropping them.

      Of course, I reckon that the calendar could reasonably handle 25 races, so we might not lose any at all.

      • John H (@john-h) said on 22nd October 2011, 16:23

        “I reckon that the calendar could reasonably handle 25 races, so we might not lose any at all.”

        The families of the mechanics would beg to differ.

        I think 20 max, but I know we’ve had this debate many times. Dropping Bahrain wouldn’t be the worst thing.

        • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd October 2011, 4:12

          The families of the mechanics would beg to differ.

          Only a handful of team personnel actually go to every race, @john-h – a lot of the mechanics and pit crews are rotated out every few races. In a twenty-one race calendar, the mechanics could expect to do seven races at the most.

    • Dougy_D (@dougy_d) said on 22nd October 2011, 12:13

      Bahrain? Not sure how it will recover from the bad press it has received recently, even if Government sorts itself out.

      • I could see one of the Spanish races going. Wasn’t Barcelona rumoured to be going?

        Failing that then maybe Hungary. With Russia coming onto the calendar that could fill the ‘Eastern European’ slot.

        Malaysia maybe?

        I could potentially see Bahrain being dropped should the current unrest continue.

        These are all total guesses though. I’ve honestly got no idea which races have contracts and which don’t.

    • SennaNmbr1 (@sennanmbr1) said on 22nd October 2011, 12:57

      In terms of spectacle, China, Valencia or Korea. Far too many corners on the Korean track.

      In terms of circumstances, for want of a better word, Bahrain, Germany, Melbourne.

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd October 2011, 13:04

        I don’t think China will go. The circuit might be derided by the fans, but the 2010 and 2011 races were quite good, and the Chinese Grand Prix is starting to get a lot of spectators in the stands.

  3. Dougy_D (@dougy_d) said on 22nd October 2011, 12:03

    Night race? Really? Surely an early morning race would be better, like 11am local time? Otherwise the European market would need to watch Monday Morning at like 1am?!?

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd October 2011, 12:14

      @dougy_d – that’s the old Liberty State Park proposal, which was rejected. The Weehawken bid is compeltely independent of the Liberty State submission.

    • Slr (@slr) said on 22nd October 2011, 13:16

      I think it would be cool if the race was on at around 9 or 10pm for Europe. Watching Canada at around that time was quite nice, it’s also nice to watch Moto GP’s US GP at 10pm.

      • @slr That wouldn’t be as ‘cool’ for us Australians. A 6-7am Monday morning race would a pain-in-the-a***!

        I probably wouldn’t be able to watch it due to the timing of it.

        Here’s hoping for a early-mid afternoon slot. At least then it would be a ‘reasonable’ 2-3am timeslot..

  4. maxthecat said on 22nd October 2011, 12:04

    Meh, having been to the place in question i can tell you that no one cares about F1 and they will NOT be happy about having their city disrupted. I don’t see this happening.

  5. Great news I say. While I’m generally against a country have more than 1 GP, I think that in a market as large as the US, an exception can be made.

    Two questions I’ve got, what direction would it go in and where would the pits be?

    I could see it going clockwise but it could just as easily go the reverse direction. As for the puts, I’m stumped..

  6. LexBlair (@lexblair) said on 22nd October 2011, 13:52

    I am sorry, i really donĀ“t wanna be a buzz-kill but, if I can guarantee you one thing about this “circuit” is that it is NEVER going to take place…at least not with this layout and most certainly not at this locationā€¦. There is no way the local council will tolerate the troubles this would cause.ā€¦shutting down any part of the Union City/Weehawken/West NY area for a whole weekend when this area serves as an important access point to Manhattan?… AND letĀ“s not even mention the fact that this area is known for being stuffed with “green people” …I donĀ“t know if there are folks here who are familiar with the West NY/Weehawken/UCity area but people here get their throat sliced for even mentioning NASCARā€¦just imagine what would happen to you if the words F1 Grand Prix would leave your mouth..
    The only suitable location I could think of for this Grand Prix (close to this location) would be in Liberty State Park, perhaps parts of Ellis Islandā€¦. ItĀ“s still part of the NYC area, roughly 10 kms south of Weehawken driving through Palisade Ave, with Atlantic City not far away, and considerable cheaper than NYCā€¦.. it would provide the least impact to city functions and the noise disturbance would be also limited ..there is enough space to accommodate viewing facilities, with the potential to hold a large audience..also the possibilities for the layout of the track would be endless hereā€¦we also have plenty of options to place the pits, run-off zones, media center, team facilities, and of course the paddock area)-Ps: where the hell would they place all this in Weehawken..
    BUT I would really love to have a GP in this areaā€¦.but during the summer break, where I am actually home and not across the AtlanticļŠ

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd October 2011, 14:06

      There is no way the local council will tolerate the troubles this would cause

      And yet, all the reports claim that the event has the full support of local councils.

      shutting down any part of the Union City/Weehawken/West NY area for a whole weekend when this area serves as an important access point to Manhattan?

      For the chance to host an international sporting event, beamed lived to millions worldwide? The terminal at Port Imperial could be used for direct access to the circuit.

      letĀ“s not even mention the fact that this area is known for being stuffed with ā€œgreen peopleā€

      Formula 1 has recently been on a green bender, with the introduction of KERS and the 2014 engine formula mandating reduced emissions. Formula 1 is at the cutting edge of environmentally-friendly road car technology, which the local green population could actually find very attractive.

      The only suitable location I could think of for this Grand Prix (close to this location) would be in Liberty State Park, perhaps parts of Ellis Island

      They tried. The Friends of Liberty State Park found out about it and got the draft bid released under the Freedom of Information Act. They then used their clout to get the idea shot down, possibly because they hadn’t been consulted on the project (though I suspect the aspiring organisers wanted to put together a bid and then go to the Friends so that they had a solid idea in place).

    • Chalky (@chalky) said on 22nd October 2011, 14:22

      The only suitable location I could think of for this Grand Prix (close to this location) would be in Liberty State Park, perhaps parts of Ellis Islandā€¦.

      If not New Jersey, how about Prospect Park?
      Almost like an Albert Park type circuit
      http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=52102

      Once a year F1 could work and it’s a short distance from Manhatten.

  7. MGriffin90 (@mgriffin90) said on 22nd October 2011, 14:08

    Another processional street race to go with Valencia and Singapore, just what F1 needs. I do wonder what track Bernie will kick out of F1 for this, presumably one universally liked…

  8. Spinmonkey (@spinmonkey) said on 22nd October 2011, 14:16

    Wow! New York City at night as the backdrop to an F1 race sounds pretty sweet. I know what my desktop wallpaper will be when they have this race.

  9. KeeleyObsessed (@keeleyobsessed) said on 22nd October 2011, 15:04

    Yay. Another circuit. Everyone must be so happy.

    The F1 calendar can only support a maximum of 22 races a year (and even then, it’s a huge stretch), with Turkey going out, that leaves spot 20 open for Texas, then you’ve got France and New York in 2013, which circuit has it’s contract running out for 2014 so we can put Russia in?

    F1 has enough circuits, it’s bad enough Bernie’s probably using the in-season test at Mugello next year as a way of trying to put it on a future calendar. I don’t see how this ‘New York GP’ could ever work..

    • I agree, I mean i love the prospect of this “Atlantic Grand Prix”, but at the same time if all these new GP’s are coming in over the next 3 years, some big heads are going to roll. At this point I am pretty happy with the calendar. It seems over the past decade, there has almost been a new race every year, and it obviously coincides with Bernies attempt at global expansion but I just find there is no tradition or excitement at the these newer venues

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd October 2011, 0:25

      which circuit has itā€™s contract running out for 2014 so we can put Russia in?

      Valencia.

  10. Juter227 (@pino227) said on 22nd October 2011, 15:45

    I live in NJ, this is VERY exciting news.

  11. matt88 (@matt88) said on 22nd October 2011, 16:07

    excellent! (:D)

  12. Lucas Alexander Munro said on 22nd October 2011, 16:56

    Terrible idea.. if this is becoming reality, I hope it is alternating with C.o.t.A, I mean, countries are absolutely lucky as hell to get one GP, so two Grands Prix in a country that isn’t even that keen on F1, it is just not ideal.

    • Scalextric (@scalextric) said on 22nd October 2011, 17:11

      I live on the other side of this country from these two GPs. This is a state that by itself represents the 7th largest economy on the planet. It has a huge population and well known car culture. Yet the nearest US GP will be two timezones and a 5 hour flight away. For comparison, imagine if the nearest GP to the UK was in Turkey. I suspect interest in F1 in western Europe would diminish.

      This geographical remoteness doesn’t grant California a ‘right’ to an F1 GP (if there were such a thing) but if Ferrari want to sell more cars here, they might be interested in the marketing potential of a west coast race in addition to those in the east.

      Luck in obtaining a race has little to do with it under Bernie, it’s all about the money.

      • MJ (@mjf1) said on 22nd October 2011, 18:33

        Actually, Montreal is only a 6 hour drive from New York City so you’re much closer to a GP than you state, even if its not in the US (but that shouldn’t matter).

        • Scalextric (@scalextric) said on 23rd October 2011, 0:25

          Nope, still a 5 to 6 hour flight to Montreal from here. Closest recent GP was in Indy. 4 hour flight, if you could find a direct one.

          • MJ (@mjf1) said on 23rd October 2011, 1:12

            Well, I’m not sure exactly where you live but the Austin GP will be on the West side and the Canadian GP in Montreal is on the East side. If there is a New Jersey GP, there will be two f1 races on the East side (within a 6 hour drive).

          • Scalextric (@scalextric) said on 23rd October 2011, 8:00

            In California, as I mentioned above. Texas is not on the west, last I checked! It’s on the Atlantic coast, so it’s well east of here. It’s the SE corner of the US, I’m in the west.

          • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd October 2011, 8:41

            I thought Florida was in the south-east corner of America, and that Texas was in the centre of the south, being neither east nor west.

          • Scalextric (@scalextric) said on 25th October 2011, 4:37

            The map of the US you usually look at is distorted by Mercator projection, the width at the south looks less than it is. Austin is a looong way from me.

  13. David B (@david-b) said on 22nd October 2011, 17:09

    Don’t worry, Mugello will never be there. The access road are so narrow…
    Regarding this track it appears absolutely original: two quick series of flowing sectors with an uphill (or downhill?) hairpin on one side and a typical city 90 degrees series at the other end. Absolutely interesting.
    Looks fast also, may be too much, since I don’t see much room for run off areas. Remembers me the old Montuich Spain track, a little bit…but just a little bit, because it appears really original.
    I would like a lot to see a race there. Much better than Valencia, Shangai, Bahrein and similar Tilkodromes.

  14. MJ (@mjf1) said on 22nd October 2011, 18:24

    Ugh, I hope this is just a rumor which doesn’t come to fruition. So many things I don’t like about this proposal. 1. Another street circuit, really? 2. I don’t like the idea of two races in the same country 3. I don’t like the idea of two races in the USA 4. The race calender will be too long, 20 races should be the max 5. I don’t like the recent trend of opening new circuits in cash rich areas with low interest in F1 while closing down circuits like the Nurburgring

  15. Fisha695 (@fisha695) said on 22nd October 2011, 19:45

    I don’t understand the fascination with being able to see Manhattan… First of all it’s not that great of a site to look at, just a bunch of buildings, secondly with how close the cameras keep on the track all you’ll see is the cars, asphalt & advertising on the walls just like every other track. I mean seriously think of Singapore & Monaco those two tracks literally run through parts of those cities and yet you still barely see anything on camera other then the cars & advertising banners on the walls/fences.

    If they want to run in NJ then take the series to New Jersey Motorsports Park on the Thunderbolt track. 3.62km, 14 turns, natural elevation changes, 0.5mile front straight. And it’d be a fast track with the current lap record being held by a Formula Atlantic car at 1:10.211

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