HRT’s ‘F112′ is last year’s car

2012 F1 season

Update: Here’s the real HRT F112.

HRT published an image of a car labelled the ‘F112′ on their website today.

However the team later confirmed the car in question was actually a F111 – the 2011 model.

Here is the image which was published today:

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89 comments on HRT’s ‘F112′ is last year’s car

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  1. falconspatrol (@falconspatrol) said on 21st February 2012, 14:07

    Ohh dear…….In what situation they have fallen. I think they are the worst team in history

    • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 21st February 2012, 14:11

      far from true… VERY far from true…

      There have been hundreds of teams worse than HRT, not only in performance but in organization too. Andrea Moda comes to my mind…

      This team is stuggling, yeah. But they got a competent driver, an association with Williams and they are just starting. If they carry on, they’ll get much better.

      • Tayyib (@m0nzaman) said on 21st February 2012, 18:25

        They have finished above virgin/marussia 2 years in a row, they lack money but they continue to try hard and have had good drivers who give their all almost like f1s rocky. In this sport of politics, money and accusations of rule bending, its nice to see a plucky team who plod along and have beaten a team with more money.

      • UKFan (@) said on 21st February 2012, 21:01

        Yes, you’re right, today F1 limits the nº of teams per season why one reason is to avoid Lola’s (1998), if you take in account the level of technology nowadays the bad job with the press, the resources they have hrt is really bad at least marussia doenst atract so much atention to themselves.

        They cant even put the tyres on the rims. Thats 90’s teams when the season had alot of teams how can a team like hrt own a spot.

        • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 22nd February 2012, 14:48

          You said it yourself. Lola (in 1997 it was), a company well known in motorsports, which was backed at the time by MasterCard, a proper sponsor, couldn’t make it as far as the first race.

          HRT, with less sponsors, much more risk, and a much higher technology level to achieve, is still going after 2 seasons.

          Even Honda struggled after only 1 season. And we’re talking about one of the biggest car companies in the world which also had bought BAR, an established team.

          HRT is doing just fine in comparision. If anything, even better than Toyota or Honda, given the budget.

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 22nd February 2012, 8:54

        Plus, their ‘longevity’ is impressive. They’ve been struggling to find strong financial support ever since they entered the sport but never seem to be giving up or rushing to realize an equity profit through selling the team.

        Despite their organizational missteps and lack of funds, I don’t foresee HRT pulling out the plug.

    • dennis (@dennis) said on 21st February 2012, 14:14

      Where have you been throughout the 80’s and 90’s?
      Not born, I suppose.

    • Keith H said on 21st February 2012, 14:15

      don’t forget that they have beaten Marussia (Virgin) for the last 2 years, so give them some credit.

    • MahavirShah (@mahavirshah) said on 21st February 2012, 14:25

      They are definately not the worst team in F1 history, not even close. They have had to endure some very tough situations over the last two years. Also, as many will point out that this year their development seems to be heading in the right direction and has a sense of order around it. The have said that they would be keeping the same 2 drivers throughout the season which is a big step up from the previous years. In fact I admire their tenacity and determination to stick it out.

      I dont know if they will be here next year but that they have shown resolve to guts it out makes me want to wish them all the best .

      • DuncF1 (@duncf1) said on 21st February 2012, 14:35

        Wow, that’s a bit harsh! I do wish people would cut some slack and give the back-marking teams a break. To get any car on the grid in F1 is a massive achievement and their dogged determination and tenacity should be applauded. Everyone’s got to start somewhere. I hope they make some real progress this year and prove their critics wrong. Good Luck to ‘em.

        • I whole heartedly agree. Even if this car doesn’t get to the first race I’m 100% in support of them.

          There’s nothing that impresses me more than a small team that digs it’s heels in and refuses to give up.

    • sesku (@sesku) said on 21st February 2012, 15:04

      I won’t say HRT is the worst F1 team but they are among the worst F1 team.

      • I disagree. Modern F1 is so, so much tougher than it used to be. They are clearly the team who, in the next few years is going to struggle to survive the most. But to compare them to some older failed attempts, they look positively magnificent.

        Sorry to advertise another site, but I think this link is very relevant.

        • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 21st February 2012, 16:24

          Totally. THe fact that HRT is trying their best at this era of F1 just shows they are far from being the worst in F1.

          In the old days, the backmakers used to run old Williamses or McLarens, or even cars from the feeder series. HRT is building a new car every year, and trying to keep up with the likes of blown-diffuser, KERS and million other innovations (even if, obviously, they don’t fit it in the car).

          Besides, the development rate is as high as ever. In the old days, some teams even ran the same car for multiple seasons. Now, you just cannot do that.

          People just give HRT respect.

        • A-Safieldin (@) said on 21st February 2012, 20:32

          I read a lot of F1 rejects, HRT aren’t plucky their financial difficulty sadly hasn’t made them creative like many of the old teams who lacked money. They should flip through the rule book and find more loopholes than anyone because they need them. Under the current situation I’ll be thoroughly impressed if they make to 2013.

    • javlinsharp (@javlinsharp) said on 21st February 2012, 16:03

      I really have to agree with all the HRT supporters.
      How often I hear complaints about F1 losing its soul.
      Tilkedromes, Silly Rules, and Big Constructors Teams ripping out the heart of what started in the garages near Silverstone.

      While I am not a big fan, I have to respect the underdogs who struggle when it makes ZERO sense for them to do so. No, they will not challenge for wins, Yes, they will be broke for many years to come, but they are TRYING. In the face of Monitary disadvantange, they are Trying, when they start from the back again and again, they are Trying. When they answer their sponsors “Why no points AGAIN this year?” They are TRYING.

      Go on HRT!!! Remind us all where we came from, and that its still not too late to wrench some aspect of the Pure Love of Racing out of the mouth of the commercial beoheamoth that has become F1.

    • peru-kowalsky said on 21st February 2012, 20:38

      falconspatrol, grow up and don’t go with the flow. They are not as bad as some mainstream fans want us to believe.
      I wish them the best. It is a big effort, and a wonderful adventure.

    • cjpdk (@cjpdk) said on 21st February 2012, 21:12

      HRT are probably the worst team on the grid, but its unfair to rank them with some of the disasters before them.

      Mastercard Lola were 15 seconds off the pace in their only race.

      Life never did more than 6 laps before engine failure.

      Andrea Modawere banned from ever competing in F1 again.

      HRT are nowhere near as bad.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 22nd February 2012, 5:11

      Going by the Facebook link Keith posted, it would appear that the F111 was mistakenly posted as the F112.

      Also, there are substantial differences in the nose on this car compared to the F111.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 22nd February 2012, 7:28

        The interesting question then is, why did the team publish this picture.
        It doesn’t show a new car (although their 2012 car might actually be just a reworked version of last years), nor does it show a stunning new livery.

  2. Girts (@girts) said on 21st February 2012, 14:08

    1) Nice nose
    2) Unusual sidepods – or is it just the white colour?
    3) I hope they colour it pink

  3. damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 21st February 2012, 14:08

    Very difficult to tell from this image, but do I spot a shark-fin engine cover? Aren’t those illegal now? They’re ugly as sin, whatever the case.

    Overall, however, I think it looks decent. Very interesting front end, anyway.

    • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 21st February 2012, 14:12

      I think the shark-fins are restricted, not forbidden, because HRT used a tiny one last year that looks quite similar to this one.

      • damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 21st February 2012, 14:15

        Of course, I see now! It looked as though it stretched to the rear wing at first, but upon closer inspection, I can see it’s only little. Red Bull also had a little shark-fin when they launched the RB7, which they ditched for some reason.

        By the way, I’ve changed my mind already. I don’t like the look of this car at all! Awful shape…

    • dennis (@dennis) said on 21st February 2012, 14:15

      @damonsmedley

      As far as I can remember they restrited the length of the fin, so that it could not touch the rear wing. So it was deemed unnecessary by most teams. It is however not banned alltogether to run one like this.

    • Leggacy said on 21st February 2012, 14:24

      No i don’t think thats a shark fin, just the end plate from the rear wing blending in due to lack of contrast. Looks like a render though.

  4. JPedroCQF1 (@joao-pedro-cq) said on 21st February 2012, 14:09

    I dare to say it is the same car as last year’s one, only with a different nose. But even the nose looks the same!

  5. Tyson Evans (@bobtehblob) said on 21st February 2012, 14:10

    I swear i’ve seen this before… At least it looks nice in comparison to almost all the other cars :D

  6. KeeleyObsessed (@keeleyobsessed) said on 21st February 2012, 14:10

    …That could be interesting.. Looks like they’ve gone for a slanted nose rather than a stepped one.. That could be better, I’ve often wondered whether the stepped noses would disrupt the airflow..

    There’s really not much else noticeable about this car.. I guess we can only hope that it’ll close the gap to the midfield…

  7. Klaas (@klaas) said on 21st February 2012, 14:13

    Definitely a race-winner.

  8. dennis (@dennis) said on 21st February 2012, 14:13

    The fin on the back and the Pirellis with the old label would suggest this is indeed something they came up with for 2011…………

  9. David-A (@david-a) said on 21st February 2012, 14:18

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this was their final livery.

    • PJ (@pjtierney) said on 21st February 2012, 15:38

      I hope not. I know Daniel Simon’s moved on to the Lotus WEC car, but his livery last year for the HRT was actually quite nice.

      While they’re not retaining that I hope they come up with something sensible at least.

  10. Best-looking car of the season! If they come up with a nice livery, with white, black and a little gold, it’ll look amazing!
    Maybe this is what Ross Brawn meant when he said: “there were a few teams who said ‘we want to continue with our 2011 chassis, and we want to be able to match the new nose up to it’.” However, as HRT used a low nose last season as well, they could’ve changed the regulations to remove the step and they’d have been legal anyway.

    • GeeMac (@geemac) said on 21st February 2012, 14:40

      That was the first thing I thought…it could only be HRT (and maybe Marussia) who would have needed to run their 2011 chassis.

    • JerseyF1 (@jerseyf1) said on 21st February 2012, 18:02

      I think that Ross Brawn’s point was that they didn’t reduce the maximum chassis height in the regulations to allow old chassis to be mated to a new lower nose (where necessary). The regulations don’t specify the step, that is the teams’ preference with the current regulations.

      If they had changed the regulations as Ross Brawn suggested then this chassis would not conform, regardless of the fact they don’t currently have a step on it.

      The lack of a step may relate to crash-testing issues rather than optimum performance.

  11. They have failed 2nd crash test… And this is a beast car! :))

  12. Now if they just got rid of the shark fin, it would look as good as the McLaren (which doesn’t actually look that good).

  13. topdowntoedown (@topdowntoedown) said on 21st February 2012, 14:28

    Looks like a Brawn. :)

  14. Andy Redden (@andyredden-on-f1) said on 21st February 2012, 14:29

    Keith you’ve made a mistake. This is the F111. Looking at that I’ll be amazed if they often make it past the 107%

  15. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 21st February 2012, 14:29

    Nice! I’m hoping for a mostly white livery, with bits of gold and black. And of course, some sponsors. Awaiting more detailed images though.

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