Teams not concerned by lack of qualifying running – Pirelli

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Sebastian Vettel, Barcelona, Barcelona, 2012In the round-up: Pirelli say teams are blocking a move to qualifying tyres to increase the amount of running in qualifying.


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Pirelli ready to supply Q3-only tyres (Autosport)

Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery: “If a fan on the grandstands doesn’t see much running in Q3, then that fan casts the blame on Pirelli thinking that we don’t want to spend any more money in order to supply more tyres.”

Waddell & Reed, Norges Bank and BlackRock invest in Formula 1 (CVC)

“Mr. Donald Mackenzie, Managing Partner of CVC Capital Partners, said: ‘This is great news for Formula 1 and an important step in its development. CVC became the controlling shareholder of Formula 1 in 2006. Since that date we have supported the company and its management as they have grown the company with great success. The addition of these three highly regarded investors to our share register is validation of this success, and we look forward to working with our new partners over the coming years.'”

F1 draws $1.6bn from investors (FT, registration required)

“The deals by Waddell & Reed, BlackRock and Norges Bank Investment Management, which each invested separately earlier this year, put the total price of the company at $7.2bn, or $9.1bn including debt.”

Investors buy into F1 for $1.6bn as Bernie Ecclestone confirms float (The Telegraph)

“I wouldn’t appoint somebody to do my job because nobody would run the business the way I do. You might as well have asked Frank Sinatra who he would appoint to replace him. Somebody can sing but can they sing like Sinatra? No. Will somebody run the business the way I run it? No. They might run it better but they wouldn’t run it the same.”

Monaco GP ?ǣ A challenge for seventy years (Ferrari)

Pat Fry: “Apart from this sensitivity to temperature, [the tyres] are also quite sensitive to the way the drivers use them. In a race where three pit stops would be considered the norm, if the driver is very very careful on the rear tyres, you might be able to keep them in good enough shape to do just two stops. But if you push hard on the tyres they degrade and a driver can damage them a little bit by pushing.”

Pointless (for now) (ESPN)

Caterham technical director Mark Smith: “There is a cost implication [of building a wind tunnel] but equally we’re aware that, at the moment in some of the discussion forums within F1, the idea of cost saving is being discussed, and it’s important that we set ourselves up going forward to be optimum in that respect. At the moment, the Williams wind tunnel is a very good tunnel for us, it works well, and when we’re in Leafield it will be quite convenient.”

Williams? secret ingredient (MotorSport)

“I sense that, in no particular order, we can point to the arrival of Mike Coughlan, vastly improved aerodynamics, some new and very clever personnel in key positions, a vigorous desire to recover and, of course, that Renault engine that has served Red Bull so well these past few seasons.”

F1: ??Rush? Wraps After Three-Month Shoot (Speed)

“The Rush crew has visited the Brands Hatch, Crystal Palace, Snetterton and Cadwell Park circuits, as well as spending a large chunk of time at its own specially created pit/paddock facility at Blackbushe airfield.”

F1 innovations rule out reprise of Nigel Mansell’s Monaco thriller (The Guardian)

“It was an epic climax to a race that all hard-core Formula One fans cite as a classic. But it could never happen today, thanks to the introduction of KERS ?ǣ the system that stores energy from braking which can then be used to provide a power boost ?ǣ and DRS, the drag reduction system, in which the rear wing can be adjusted on certain parts of the circuit to increase the car’s top speed.”

Williams F1 car topiary exhibit wins Chelsea gold (BBC)

“Team founder, Sir Frank Williams, whose team won the most recent Grand Prix in Spain, attended the show on Monday.”

Comment of the day

Raymondu999 on Paul di Resta’s prospects:

To be honest I find di Resta to be a bit of a Button. This isn?t to say he?s good, nor does it say he?s bad. I?m saying he?s in the same category as Button. His strength has generally been his consistency in my opinion, and his highest high is never too far from his lowest low.

Most of his better drives, for example, have come from tyre saving and just choosing his fights, and being smart about his race management. I don?t think we’ve seen a race from him that has become amazing thanks to prodigious pace. This isn?t to say he doesn?t have it ?ǣ I’m just saying he hasn’t shown it.

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On this day in F1

One of the most remarkable conclusions ever seen to a race in any series unfolded in the final laps of the Monaco Grand Prix, 30 years ago today.

Alain Prost was leading when he crashed his Renault as rain began to fall. Brabham’s Riccardo Patrese took over the lead but spun at the hairpin.

Didier Pironi was next to lead for Ferrari but stopped in the tunnel with an electrical problem.

Meanwhile Andrea de Cesaris, who would have inherited the lead from Pironi, was parking his Alfa Romeo having also run out of fuel. Next Derek Daly came to a halt with no rear wing, front-left damage and a broken gearbox having clouted the barrier at Tabac a few laps earlier.

Finally Patrese got his Brabham going again and crawled home to win. He stopped to pick up Pironi on the way home – the Ferrari driver classified second despite retiring – while de Cesaris was given third.

Here’s the drama as it unfolded, complete with commentary from the BBC’s Murray Walker and James Hunt:

Also, happy 40th birthday to Rubens Barrichello!

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70 comments on Teams not concerned by lack of qualifying running – Pirelli

  1. TED BELL said on 23rd May 2012, 15:10

    Pirelli would sing a different tune if the FIA gave a single point for P1 in Q3 which they should be doing anyway. Outside of the race itself, qualifying is the most important part of the Grand Prix weekend.

    • StefMeister (@stefmeister) said on 23rd May 2012, 15:21

      I think the problem wit points for qualifying is that you then risk a championship been decided on a Saturday which would then take away some of the intrest in the race.

      In Indycar a few years back the title was decided off the points for pole & it took away from what could have been an exciting race to decide the championship the next day.

      Also recall in I think it was 2005 or 2006 again In Indycar where the championship was decided Mid-Race based off bonus points for leading the most laps & getting fastest lap.

    • BBT (@bbt) said on 23rd May 2012, 20:56

      Pirelli would sing a different tune if the FIA gave a single point for P1 in Q3

      Why, what do Pirelli care about who gets P1, it makes no difference to them who gets P1 or if a point is awarded. The more people talk about their putty rubber and close racing (that is a result of relatively stable regulations not the tyres, but that is a whole different discussion) the more PR they get, its win win. If they change the tyres its ‘look we can do anything you ask’, it seems they can’t lose, whoever signed to enter F1 must be getting rather larger OTE and laughing all the way to the bank.

  2. Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 23rd May 2012, 16:11

    I completely agree with qualifying tyres, they would increase the excitement of qualifying and the race in my opinion and make the races less focused on tyre conservation as the teams would be running fresher rubber.

  3. F1_Dave1 said on 23rd May 2012, 17:42

    Only thing with qualifying tyres would be how many sets they give them.
    If they only get 1 set then we will likely see less action in Q3 with everyone only doing 1 run rather than the current 2 runs.

    also something to consider is that when we last had qualifying tyres they usually needed a different car setup than the regular tyres because of the extra grip they gave.
    However now you can not only not change the car setup after qualifying but you also need a setup that works on standard tyres for Q1/2.

    • BBT (@bbt) said on 23rd May 2012, 20:49

      That is an easy one, just give them one more set of the options for Q3 (not a unique qualifying tyre as such).

      The teams that run twice will continue to do so and the teams that don’t run or run once will run twice or run at least run once (if they have to give the extra set back). It is not hard to workout a better solution.

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