Pastor Maldonado, Williams, Silverstone, 2012

Maldonado and Kobayashi fined after incidents

2012 British Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Pastor Maldonado, Williams, Silverstone, 2012Pastor Maldonado and Kamui Kobayashi were fined after incidents during the British Grand Prix.

Maldonado was handed a ??10,000 fine and a reprimand for his collision with Sergio Perez during the race. Perez retired following the collision at Brooklands.

The stewards’ decision stated: “In view of the serious nature of the incident the stewards have decided under Article 18.1 to apply two penalties.”

Kobayashi received a ??25,000 fine for an unsafe pit stop after hitting several members of his pit crew.

“The accident at the pit stop was my fault and I want to apologise to the team,” said Kobayashi.

“Of course I had to push hard for points, but without doubt I braked too late in the pit lane.

“The front wheels locked, I couldn?t control the car, and this is how I overshot the pit box. I am terribly sorry this happened, and I hope the three mechanics I hit get well soon.”

The team confirmed on Twitter one mechanic had an injured thumb and the other suffered cuts and bruises to his left leg.

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  1. And once again Maldonado recieves a slap on the wrist. This woud be comical if it wasn’t so upsetting.

    1. @guilherme Strange to see a driver receive a fine for an on-track incident. I’ll have to have a look but I can’t remember that happening very often.

      1. Vergne did get one last time, maybe a new trend being set?

        I do think that when the stewards say its a more harsh penalty because of how serious the accident was, its feels tragicomical that Kobayashi gets a higher fine for hitting his own pit team.

        1. Very true @bascb.

          Of course that incident itself was quite a dangerous one, and teams have gotten a $25k fine for unsafe releases before, but it does work oddly.

          Personally I found Sky’s analysis of that Perez/ Maldonado incident convincing and find myself agreeing with Herbert that MAL didn’t do very much wrong on this occasion, but that he does need to be more aware of things around him; having cold tyres isn’t an excuse, it is a reason to be more careful.

          1. Look ; we saw a very aggressive, similar passes from PER to other drivers, and in a close fight, they respected the line and let PER go through…..the problem with MAL is that he will not accept that PER (a mexican) could pass him (oh, the shame, what would Chavez think?) so he hit PER on the side -same as with HAM- and took him out of the race. Easy, simple, road rage. He deserves a higher penalty (not $$$).I hope next time they ban him for a race or something important.

      2. Didn’t Sutil get one after Brazil 09? Or am I dreaming..?

        1. Sutil was not punished after Brazil 09. The stewards found that Trulli was overreacting and that Sutil was innocent.

    2. indeed, I guess he really is going to have to seriously injure another driver before anything is actually done…..

      1. Completely agree, he is going to hurt someone one day. He has looked dangerous since that clash with Hamilton at Spa.

    3. I think Maldonado should change his name to Pastor Abandonado

      1. Crashtor Maldinono
        8th July 2012, 23:13

        He should from now on be called Crashtor Maldinono! ;)

    4. yeah this is ridiculous. Malaysia 2011 Alonso and Hamilton get together and Alonso loses his front wing and has to pit for a new one. And then gets a drive through penalty. Hamilton’s car was ok. A racing incident and the one suffering was penalized (one of MANY MANY MANY examples). And Maldonado gets NOTHING. This is starting to smell…

      1. I feel for Williams. They have a driver with great speed, but drives like a child! The amount of points that have been thrown away, undeliverable. And then Bruno is not there either to capitalise if his team mate is crashing out. Bruno is the opposite, has a cool head, but just not as quick. It must be so frustrating for them. Makes me wonder where the team would be if they had a driver like Alonso.

        1. Bruno contributed points for Williams in 5 races.

  2. A grid penalty would have fit Maldonado’s crime considering he took out another competitor. I don’t think drivers should effectively get away with causing another driver to retire.

    A fine for Kobayashi is suitable I think. I’ve never seen grid penalties for any other driver running down their pit crew. But that incident was scary to watch the first time I saw it.

    1. I think it would have been better to maybe see Kobayashi handed a punishement that forces him to help up-pack/pack-up there garage at the end of a race or something, put him in the shoes of some of the people he works around rather than a meaningless fine… might also help build any stranged bridges

      1. @baldgye I heard that Kobayashi once helped his mechanics fix his car after he’d crashed it. So he does have some experience of being in his mechanic’s shoes.

      2. Or maybe the mechanics could just drive their VW Golfs at his ankles. Sounds a bit progressive and “restorative justice” for F1.

      3. Because obviously Kobayashi thinks nothing of them and the work they do and just likes to occasionally run them over for the fun of it since they are insignificant little beings.

        Lets get serious shall we? The guy obviously feels like shιt for it. When stuff like that happen usually the one making the mistake feels ten times worse than the other guy.

  3. A reprimand? You’ve got to be kidding me. Pastor is on a rampage since last GP, I mean, we like (I like) aggresive drivers but not daredevils.

    1. Maldonado is a jerk…He thinks, he is in Venezuela. When Hugo Chavez will die, he will be a zero, backthere, too.

  4. €10,000 fine is too lenient for Maldonado!!!

    1. Come on, the amount is fair. He didn’t kill anyone….YET!!!!!!!!

      1. is reporting the fines the other way around. 25k for MAL, 10k for KOB.

        1. @hare

          They’ve got it wrong – the stewards’ documents on the FIA website show Maldonado has the €10,000 fine and reprimand, Kobayashi has the €25,000 fine.

          1. One could argue that the Stewards got it wrong, and that got it right. ;) It is inconceivable to me that if you are going to be this lenient on Maldonado (and not impose a more fitting ban or a race penalty) that Kobayashi should be fined a larger amount for something that is very much more clear to be a genuine accident.

  5. This was a racing incident to me, specially since they were on cold tyres and Maldonado didn’t look like he intended to push Perez off the track, it looked like he lost the rear a bit and overcorrected it.

    But I do agree failing to fully penalize a driver for continuos incidents on track (most of them his fault) is clearly a mistake by the FIA. You can’t expect to receive a yellow card at every single match during a tournament and not be banned from a match or two. Not saying Maldonado deserves a race ban, but clearly something needs to be done. Otherwise, you just encourage him to keep trying the aggressive way.

    1. I completey agree with everything you said.

    2. 100% Agree with that, very well said.

    3. Agreed as well. Would be much more impressive to watch a clean battle, such as Alonso and Webber did for 1st. That is talented and respectable driving, unlike what Maldonado has been doing.

    4. That just about sums it up for me.

    5. + 1

      Yep this one looked very much like a racing incident.
      PM could probably do with some wise words in the ear.

      But who knowns perhaps its some long term evil plan to make other drivers scared of him in future races so they dont go wheel 2 wheel.

    6. Williams need to get involved and further increase their drivers qualities. Maldonado does not lack pace, but he have to become a more intelligent driver.

      Williams possibly got future star in their car, but he will fade away if he keep crashing and not learning.

      All Champs been crashing right and left at some point, but most of them don’t need to do it twice to learn it. Maldonado cost Williams three high scoring finishes, considering he is mostly the one pulling the weight for Williams, he must act accordingly. And if he can’t Williams must help him.

      Personally, I do not approve of Maldonado’s incidents or justify in any way. But this guy got raw speed(not just another talented driver), he is one of the fastest guys on the grid right now, but he is far from having whole package. Williams will miss out if they loose him due to other factors other than if he lacked speed.

  6. What a joke of a punishment.

    A meaningless monetry fine for an obviously danger driver who has 10’s of millions in backing, yeh stewards! that’ll do it!

    The reason he continues to do stupid things is precisly because he keeps going under punished. Though no doubt another opportunity will arise over the next races, will they continue to ignore the elephant in the room? Or wait until someone is seriously hurt.

    1. It’s come to the point where now if you see MAL near another car, you think “oh look out, this could result in contact”. So much so, that as soon as I saw PER get a tow in the DRS and tried to go around the outside, I immediately knew there was going to be contact, and gee, what do you know! And its the opposite when you see ALO and WEB go wheel to wheel, you know its going to be good, and will get really tight, but there is so much respect that it will never end in contact. That’s the issue, MAL has no respect for ANYONE on the track!

      1. @ivz it’s funny you say that because when Malonado was catching Hamilton as Hamilton’s tyres were going off in Valencia I was thinking exactly the same thing. Hamilton was never going to give up the position without a fight and when the words ‘fight’ and ‘Maldonado’ are in the same sentence you know what’s coming…

  7. The respective fines appear to completely out of step with the offences. Kobayashi made an error which damaged his own team’s race, whereas Maldonado’s repeated robust driving which resulted in a competitor’s race is ended meets with a minor reaction.
    For several other overtaking moves around the outside at the same turn there was plenty of space, and yet Maldonado fails to give enough room again.
    He’s a liability who needs to be calmed down. I would advocate a race ban, actual or suspended until he can prove he is capable of reasonable driving behaviour.

    1. I see your point (and agree that Mal’s a dangerous ****) but Kobayashi did actually injure people…

      1. Oh sorry, mild swearing not allowed?

        1. I see your point (and agree that Mal’s dangerous) but Kobayashi did actually injure people…

          Comment with swear word redacted :)

          1. I agree, injuring people (whoever they are) is much more serious, the actual consequences should be taken into account.

            Wonder if we’ll see any of the new, improved communication from the stewards – or maybe it’s too soon for that.

  8. Maldonado is not far from race ban…

    1. if this would happens he will buy the entrance, like it was in Moanco with persona non grata title..

    2. I was expecting this today. I don’t understand FIA punishments.

    3. And what do you reckon should have happened if Alonso did clip Webber’s wing at the start?

    4. Everything is becoming so sterile and drivers adapt and abuse it. This new “Front wing at Rear Wheel” rule is obvious result, plainly stupid.

      James Hunt crashed into Mario Andretti cause he though; “We don’t ovetake on outside in Formula 1”

  9. I believe that had it been another driver, he would have been let off with a reprimand. But Pastor was fined for his consecutive involvement in incidents. This was a racing incident

  10. A £10,000 fine is a joke. In my opinion the FIA should be dealing with the series of incidents Maldonado is involved far more seriously. Also why is it a fine and not a sporting penalty like a grid demotion for the next race?
    The incident today was just being far too gung-ho on tyres he had’t got a handle on yet. I think some people will be upset by Perez’ comments in his interviews after the incident, but I think he’s got every right to say what he did.

  11. Can’t wait to see Sergio’s reaction to this…
    Though, if this was Lewis, would he have escaped without a race ban by now?

    1. if this was Lewis, would he have escaped without a race ban by now?

      No. Whilst Maldonado did get off lightly, I don’t believe the stewards have it in for Hamilton. Most of his penalties were justified in my opinion.

    2. The diffrence being that Lewis has no record of intentionally driving into people to make a point…

  12. My english is not good.

    Can anyone tell me what “reprimand” is ??? Will you lose anything after receiving a reprimand? What kind of punishment it is?!

    1. Just a warning, the system was introduced last year I think. Three reprimands and something bad happens (some kind of penalty I think).

      1. 5 place grid penalty.

        1. Schumacher was to easy punished(Senna incident), in comparance with every Maldonado’s incident.

    2. It’s not you English. For a driver like him a reprimand means NOTHINg. another serious misjudgment on his part is brushed off. Rotten.

  13. Arnt these monetry fines suppose to go into R&D for car safty?

    Ive got a better solution, get rid of the role-models who are too agressive behind a wheel

  14. Kobayashis penalty, €25,000 is a bit much. The €10,000 find would’ve reflect his incident more accurate.
    And with Maldonados incident, he should be given a find for how much the parts on the other damaged cars would cost + because Perez couldn’t continue he should receive constructors-points from Williams.

    These type of penalty ideas I’d like to see in the future.

    1. I disagree. Points should never be awarded because of an incident. Let us look at last race in Valencia as an example. Let us assume that, before the safety car, Vettel went to lap Vergne, who shoved Vettel into the wall. Grosjean, trying to avoid this accident, ploughed into the wall also. Hamilton then took the lead and, because he was able to look after his tyres, won the race. A little farfetched, but possible. With your penalty system, Vergne’s points would be handed to Vettel and Grosjean – who both would have retired a few laps down the line anyway.
      Whos to say Perez would not have crashed out of his own accord, or had a mechanical failure?

  15. Not a problem – Maldonado’s government/sponsors will cover that. The ‘punishment’ is no deterrent, and won’t motivate a much needed change in his approach.

  16. I think they should give him a race ban – at first. This incident alone wouldn’t be that bad, but he has constantly caused crashes and – what I think is even worse – doesn’t seem to mind. The fines in general are ridicilous, what is 10,000 pounds to a Formula1 driver, especially if he is funded by Hugo Chavez?

    It’s not right if other drivers start driving more carefully against Maldonado only because he most certainly ruins their races if they try to pass or defend against him.




  19. Magnificent Geoffrey (@magnificent-geoffrey)
    8th July 2012, 18:01

    I agree with the fine and the reprimand for Pastor, judging that incident on its own merits. And that’s coming from a Sauber fan.

    I do still believe that he deserved a ban for the Perez road-rage incident in Monaco, but that’s in the past now. If he makes another stupid move, that’s when he really SHOULD get a sever punishment. It won’t happen though.

  20. I don’t understand these fines at all. Maldonado took someone out of the race and gets fined 10k. Kobayashi hits some of his pit crew and gets fined 25k.

    What are the lessons they want these two drivers to learn? “Don’t take out other drivers”, fair enough. “Be careful in the pit lane”, also fair enough.

    But I’m pretty sure Kobayashi will be a bit more careful in the future regardless of being fined, because let’s face it, he doesn’t want to hit his own crew or anyone else in the legs.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t seem like Maldonado is particularly quick on the pickup when it comes to driving, to the point where now they aren’t giving him normal racing penalties any more but are resorting to monetary punishment. The levels of the penalties handed out just seems a bit counter intuitive to me and it has to be said, it wouldn’t have been obvious if they hadn’t been handed out in the same weekend.

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