Tyres, Caterham, 2013

Ferrari, Lotus and Force India to back down over tyres

F1 Fanatic Round-upPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Tyres, Caterham, 2013In the round-up: Ferrari, Lotus and Force India, who previously blocked Pirelli’s efforts to introduce Kevlar-belted tyres following the delaminations seen earlier in the season, are prepared to drop their objections.


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F1 teams open to tyre fix U-turn (Autosport)

Eric Boullier: “We need to work with Pirelli and find solutions. Maybe Pirelli need to change the belt from metallic to Kevlar, and we would support this. Safety is the primary concern.”

Ecclestone: Pirelli can conduct tests (Sporting Life)

“I spoke to [FIA president] Jean Todt over the weekend and he has said ‘Let them test’. So he has allowed them to run two three-day tests between now and… well, when they want, to try and do something for next year, as well as this year, so that’s exactly what’s going to happen.”

Tyre problem has existed all year – Gary Anderson (BBC)

“The best thing Whitmarsh can do is go and hide. Silverstone was another terrible race for McLaren and it’s in their interests to get the rest of the season cancelled so they stop embarrassing themselves.”

UBS in drive for $100m New York Grand Prix (The Telegraph)

“Swiss investment bank UBS has been appointed by the organisers of the planned New York Grand Prix in a bid to secure $100m (??65.7m) of funding to enable the race to go ahead in 2014.”

Force India hope to keep McLaren behind them (Reuters)

Vijay Mallya: “If we keep scoring points and they don’t come up with something dramatic like a race win, we should be able to keep our nose ahead of them.”

Italy prosecutor asks two years jail for Pirelli’s Tronchetti Provera (Reuters)

“An Italian prosecutor has asked for two years imprisonment for businessman Marco Tronchetti Provera in a case involving the alleged use of Telecom Italia data to snoop on Italy’s elite.”


Comment of the day

If F1 is becoming too artificial, it may be because fans are demanding it, argues @Dragoll:

I?m getting concerned in the direction F1 is taking. It is clearly going for “entertainment value”, however, when does the sport turn from a serious sport into something akin to WWE, where everything is staged for entertainment value?

Take the tyre delaminations aside for a moment, and I know I?m asking a lot, because in their own right they deserve a full investigation. However, the more I read on these forums, the more I?m starting to see that people want all races to come down to last ten laps, and for twp or more drivers to have a chance at the victory.

My concern is, that I believe that sport is designed to show who is the best in their field, in F1, that has traditionally been the one with the best driver, engine, tyre, personnel, and development package, the fact that Schumacher, Ferrari, Bridgestone and Brawn were so dominant in the early 2000???s, well isn?t that deserved, through their sheer determination, whether you like them or not? Or the fact that Vettel, Newey, Red Bull are now so successful, isn?t that worthy of praise?

Instead I read multiple posts about how ‘finger boy’ has done this, or done that… Then Rate the Race we saw yesterday as a nine or ten because after a safety car period in the last ten laps we had two guys going at it at the end, and why can?t there be more of this?

Think about the core of what sport is about, it is sometime unpredictable, but it cannot always be unpredictable or that would in itself become predictable. There is nothing more boring in my eyes than watching NASCAR at Talledega, where they basically try and stay in the top ten so that at the end, they have a chance of winning from five deep… It just doesn?t sit right with me.

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66 comments on “Ferrari, Lotus and Force India to back down over tyres”

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  1. I hope they won’t revert back to ‘delaminate’ but don’t ‘explode’ tyres.

    That would just be total joke….. :D

    They must look somewhere else for the ‘entertainment factor’ and stop messing around with tyres.

  2. Cheers for COTD honors @keithcollantine I never expected it, if anything it was a bit of a rant. But thanks to everyone who agree.

  3. WilliamB (@william-brierty)
    2nd July 2013, 12:50

    @Dragoll – I agree…to a point. Yes, domination doesn’t have to be boring, and yes, as a Ferrari fan I secretly enjoyed the early 2000s, but what I think all fans want is to see the finest drivers, the finest engineers and the finest machinery put to test in the Colosseum that is F1. Was Schumacher really put to test? Was he under pressure from his teammate? After Hakkinen retired, did he have wide range of talented drivers to oppose him? Were there other chassis of the quality of the F2002 or F2004? No. That is again the case in the “Vettel era”, especially in 2011, where Vettel had the time, the grip and the tyres to set a fastest lap in the final few laps, having spent the race at 90%. Races like India ’11/’12, Korea ’11/’12, Valencia ’11, Canada ’13 and Bahrain ’13 don’t see pressure put on Vettel, and that is what fans what. What you must remember is that in F1 the car is 8/10ths, so as long as you have a good car, a comfortable margin over your teammate, you could dominate quite comfortably. Essentially what all fans want is the importance of the car devalued, because the true differences between Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Raikkonen and Rosberg are really rather tiny, it is only the car that staggers these gaps in driver ability. Many of the best battles in F1 history have been between teammates like Senna and Prost, Piquet and Mansell, Hill and Villeneauve and Hamilton and Alonso in ’07; drivers with identical machinery. So I don’t think F1 is looking for the “WWE factor”, just perhaps a step away from a team sport and step closer to a more conventional individual’s sport, with driver’s pitted against one another in fairly equal machinery thus allowing for a fairly comprehensive answer to questions like, “Who is faster, Sebastian Vettel or Lewis Hamilton?”

  4. Report on the BBC here
    Says that the rear tyres for Germany will be with Kevlar strapping, front tyres will be unchanged. And then for Hungary, it says there will be 2012 tyres all round.
    It’s hard not to read it as a total cock up with everyone scrabbling for some kind of stop-gap solution. Oh F1, how did you ever get into this mess?

    1. front tyres will be unchanged

      Until those explode as well, then FIA will only react then?….

  5. Earlier in the season Gary Anderson was dead set against changing the tyres. He’s entitled to change his mind, but not to airbrush his earlier position out of history.

  6. Instead I read multiple posts about how ‘finger boy’ has done this, or done that… Then Rate the Race we saw yesterday as a nine or ten because after a safety car period in the last ten laps we had two guys going at it at the end, and why can’t there be more of this?

    I saw numerous people who flat out stated that they gave the race a 10 because a specific driver had a gearbox failure. I suppose I can understand thinking that way, in the abstract, but it’s the sort of thing most people would be embarrassed to admit. I don’t understand what sort of mind can publicly revel in its own nastiness.

    1. @jonsan I can’t believe f1 fans who follow the sport have such passion in watching someone drop out of a race, surely you’d want to see your driver beat your rival fair and square, although maybe that is just my way of thinking.

  7. That COTD was spot on. I also thought it was in bad taste for the fans at Silverstone to cheer when Vettel slowed and was ashamed of my countrymen, I know it’s nice for the championship battle to be closer but it was entirely classless to laugh at someones misfortune.

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