Double points finale could be scrapped – Todt

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Todt hints at double points rethink (Autosport)

“I was surprised to get so much emotion for this thing that I do not feel is a huge change in F1. But again we need to listen to that and hopefully we will take that into consideration.”

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‘Appeal case stronger since Melbourne’ (ESPN)

“As more races have progressed, issue have become more evident and issues and understanding has come to light. Hopefully we can present our case fairly and get the second place back that Daniel [Ricciardo] deserves from Melbourne.”

Ericsson losing half a second in weight to F1 team mate (Crash)

“The problem is that he’s 10kg lighter than me, so for me to be able to match his times is so difficult because I have half a second every lap which I’m losing just because of the weight.”

Horner claims Ricciardo is among the best after youngster enjoys fine start at Red Bull (Daily Mail)

“It demonstrates how difficult it is sometimes to judge drivers in inferior equipment because he has grabbed his opportunity and he is really making the most of it.”

Mercedes driver duel has hidden depths (Reuters)

Lewis Hamilton: “Someone in the team did a huge study on my pace last week and, as I arrived (in Bahrain)…there was this big document with all the reasons why I was quick. And he (Rosberg) used that to his advantage.”

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144 comments on Double points finale could be scrapped – Todt

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  1. T-they… they’re finally listening? R-really? I-i-i… cannot-

    No, must wait until it actually gets cancelled… can’t get my infinitely tiny hopes up yet…

    • alexf1man (@alexf1man) said on 11th April 2014, 7:01

      That’s how I feel – they need to stop leaving us in limbo and tell us either way what’s happening!

    • dirgegirl (@dirgegirl) said on 11th April 2014, 8:48

      What’s amazing is that Jean Todt was surprised by the strength of feeling from the fans on the double points debacle. It says two things: firstly, that the top echelons of F1 are completely out of touch with fans and yet didn’t bother carrying out any sort of market research to see whether the changes they were making would get the desired result; and secondly, that the top echelons of F1 (including the teams it would appear) can’t tell or do not care that a rule may have an arbitrary or unfair impact on the championship, despite the fact that legions of fans could see this straight off.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 11th April 2014, 8:50

      Fingers crossed!

    • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 11th April 2014, 10:22

      @crekkan – Red Bull and Ferrari will vote against it. They wouldn’t go with what the fans want, they’ll go with what is best for them.

  2. HiPn0tIc (@hipn0tic) said on 11th April 2014, 0:08

    The way this is going double points in the finale is absolute by the Mercedes got the top 2 places…

    • Actually I can just picture Lewis having a decent edge on Nico all season, only to lose the championship to him because of technical problem in the finale where it counts the most.

      • Nick (@nick-uk) said on 11th April 2014, 18:46

        This is where FOM just isn’t seeing the forest through the trees. They seem to think double points is only capable of being good because it could help an underdog beat a dominant car or whatever, but for a driver to loose a championship because of the points change in the situation you describe would make a total farce of the championship result and forever remain in the series history as a stain against real competition.

        It’s the same thing as where in 2010 people suggested Alonso would only be a true champion if he won by 8 points of more (because of Hockenheim).

        I dunno, maybe some people do not care so much as the rules are the same for everyone, but the points structure absolutely must remain a constant across all races to maintain an equal playing field in my opinion. Otherwise you could literally luck into a championship due to another cars unfortunate mechanical failure that on any other weekend would not have had the same effect as it did in the last race.

  3. Carlitox (@carlitox) said on 11th April 2014, 0:09

    Despite being anything but trustworthy, I’d love that BMW rumor to be true. One of the things I looked forward to the most was the return of plenty of manufacturers, because with only three (and one of them waaaay ahead of the rest), F1 is starting to look like a spec series. Another reason to soften a bit the development freezing, even though I totally agree with it.

    • andrewf1 (@andrewf1) said on 11th April 2014, 0:48

      @carlitox I would love for BMW to return to the sport as well, but there’s zero chance they will return in 2015, as Minardi would have us believe. Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault have spent at least 3 years preparing for these regulations, Honda 2 years and BMW are supposed to start R&D and manufacture the PU all within 6 months….right.

    • Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 2:40

      BMW is alright, but I would really like to see Ford (Cosworth) come back. There was a rumour recently on them coming in with one of the new teams… Cosworth have a turbo engine design, but haven’t built it as there is no customer team. To have the 5 biggest engine names throughout F1 history (Ferrari, Ford, Renault, Mercedes and Honda) on the grid would be fantastic. We don’t need any more than that!

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 11th April 2014, 8:56

        @fastiesty I’d love to see Toyota back and Audi should have a say in this new hybrid era. A Formula 1 with Mercedes, Renault, Ferrari, Honda, Toyota, BMW and Audi would be great. (Porshe would be welcomed but seems to me they’re more than happy staying away from F1 for now)

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 11th April 2014, 8:21

      @carlitox Worth noting it’s less than 12 months since BMW last denied rumours they would be coming back to F1 (rumours which last time were started by Ecclestone).

    • HiPn0tIc (@hipn0tic) said on 11th April 2014, 10:40

      @carlitox, starting a new rumor here, if BMW returns, i could see a team with Seb and Hulk or Rosb

      • Deej92 (@deej92) said on 11th April 2014, 12:19

        Vettel did have a link with BMW through Williams testing when they were engine partners and then of course Sauber.

        I’ve said in the past the only teams I could see Vettel leaving Red Bull for are Ferrari or a new or returning manufacturer team.

        I think in the unlikely event BMW return next season, they could be engine supplier to Red Bull if the Renault relationship continues to deteriorate. I don’t where that would leave Infiniti. It’s all pure speculation though.

    • StephenH said on 11th April 2014, 15:22

      Hopefully just as an engine supplier, and to two teams, the whole reason we nearly had a sub 20-car grid was because the big car manufactueres were intereted in the glory of a title-winning in-house team. Now they may just be content, as was the case in the past,of being attatched to a title winning team as a partner, with less emphasis on corporate back-rubbing.

  4. Gordon (@gfreeman) said on 11th April 2014, 0:21

    Re: COTD – it’s just all PR to pull in manufacturers & about “road relevance”.

    Regarding “someone” putting together the necessary documents detailing why Lewis was so fast in Malaysia is very telling of what’s going on in the garage. But even more so that despite the help Nico got, Lewis still outdid him in Bahrain (racewise).

  5. matt90 (@matt90) said on 11th April 2014, 0:24

    I was surprised to get so much emotion for this thing that I do not feel is a huge change in F1.

    If you’re that out of touch- both by being surprised and by still thinking it’s a minor thing- then you probably shouldn’t be in charge. Even Mosely didn’t allow such foolishness into F1.

  6. Andre Furtado said on 11th April 2014, 0:27

    Everyone is making such a big deal out of Ricciardo, let’s see he is on an exceptionally good car which only lacks power, Vettel has had issues on both races so far and has been nothing but a team player and allowed him to easily pass him. Ricciardo is a guy who did not beat his toro rosso team mate that often and many argued that maybe Jean Eric might have been a better option for red bull. Who is to say that Jean Eric wouldn’t be doing an even better job at the red bull? Hulk? Just saying too much hype with no backing up. More drivers on the grid deserve this attention.

    • GB (@bgp001ruled) said on 11th April 2014, 1:21

      you are totally wrong! ric is doing a great job! he is in an amazing car: yes so was webber and was always wiped by vettel. true: vettels has been having problems. but to me ric is doing a great job compared to the whole midfield, not to vettel. jev could have made it better? noone will ever now, cuz it didnt happen and noone cares: ric was chosen and he is doing a fine job, so if jev was an option or not is not a question anymore. ric deserves the recognition he is getting!

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 11th April 2014, 9:09

      C’mon!

      1. JEV is a good driver and I would not be shocked if Red Bull picked him over Ricciardo, but you cannot deny that Daniel Ricciard is doing a pretty decent job and, unlike some predictions, is not being destroyed by a 4 times WDC.

      2. Nico Hulkenberg is top driver and would be a championship contender if he was driving a car capable of fighting for wins more often than not.

    • Todfod (@todfod) said on 11th April 2014, 9:27

      More drivers on the grid deserve this attention.

      Please do name some of these drivers – Guttierez, Massa, Sutil, Button???

    • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 11th April 2014, 11:41

      “Ricciardo is a guy who did not beat his toro rosso team mate that often”

      Don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant eh? Ricciardo beat Vergne 23-16 over 2 years. That means he beat him 70% of the time.

      “Who is to say that Jean Eric wouldn’t be doing an even better job at the red bull?”

      No-one. People are simply saying Ricciardo is doing a good job at Red Bull.

      “More drivers on the grid deserve this attention.”

      As someone else said – who?

      “Vettel has had issues on both races so far”

      Ok so there have been 3 races so far. Australia, Malaysia and Bahrain….. I assume it was Malaysia you missed as Vettel finished in 3rd. Ricciardo retired with an issue having also suffered a penalty because his tyre wasn’t put on correcty in the pits. Ricciardo also got a 10 place grid penalty for Bahrain and still finished ahead of Vettel.

      I don’t understand your motivation behind having a go at Ricciardo (JEV fan?) but how can anyone say he isn’t doing a good job in his early days as Red Bull driver? Were you expecting more?

      • Excellent post

      • F1 fan said on 11th April 2014, 17:29

        I agree with all your sentiments just not your maths, if Ricciardo won 23-16 thats 23 from 39 which is 59%

      • uan (@uan) said on 12th April 2014, 4:34

        @petebaldwin

        RIC is doing a great job and I imagine he’ll continue to do so. More than doing a great job, he’s just plain racy in a fun way. Definitely a breath of fresh air at the sharper end of the grid, and at Red Bull.

        But it is also true that Vettel’s had issues. AUS obviously with his retirement, and in Bahrain he had an issue with his MGU-H failing to give him power at the end of the straights, comprising whatever little top speed the RB10 has. RIC has also mentioned needing to work to get caught up to VET, as when they do run on equal terms in Free Practices, VET is usually ahead a couple of tenths.

        It’s early days in the season in a season full of new tech. Both Red Bull drivers are doing well, and both are punching above the weight of their car. And if Renault can’t get an extra 80hp from their engine, and soon, it won’t really matter much as the Merc will be miles ahead and everyone else will be fighting for scraps. Still, some great racing going on.

  7. trotter said on 11th April 2014, 0:35

    Why can’t people get it through their heads already. It’s not about F1 cars saving money and environment. It’s about developing a technology that, when used on a large scale, will have a monumental benefits.
    Humanity wouldn’t have seen any benefit from any monumental invention if it was just left in the inventor’s lab. But it sure did benefit when everyone started using it.

    • Breno (@austus) said on 11th April 2014, 2:19

      Thank you!

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 2:46

      Apparently it’s far to abstract a concept for the average pre-schooler.

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 11th April 2014, 6:43

      Comment of the year!

    • dennis (@dennis) said on 11th April 2014, 8:48

      F1 isn’t “developing” anything. These technologies exist for quite a while now and have been implemented in F1 to make PR people happy.
      F1 didn’t come up with this and then proved it was good to use for road cars, like sequential gearboxes or carbon fibre.

      It’s a load of pretentious bull**** for people who lost touch with what cars are actually sold nowadays. The wasted energy in Bahrain, the air-shows in Melbourne etc. are simply a pain to see for people who watch Formula 1 as a sport, instead of a large advertizing board for car manufacturers that want to hide their 3 ton SUVs behind green “hybrid” technology.

      • alexx_88 (@alexx_88) said on 11th April 2014, 9:30

        Indeed.

        How could anyone believe that F1 is developing stuff when the engine is almost spec’d and they have an engine improvement freeze for 12 months, with only 12 days of testing at the beginning of each season allowed to test what they’ve done. How can you push the limits of technology when you only have time to take bits of already existing stuff, put them together and pray that you can get them working together in the limited amount of time that you have? And that’s without taking into consideration that the FIA greatly limited the innovation possibilities by limiting the flow-rate, the power output of the MGU-K, the amount of energy that can be released / lap.

        If they wanted truly relevant innovation, not just PR talk, the best way to achieve that would’ve been: 100kg fuel / race, 100kg/hr max fuel rate, max 5 engines / season. Any engine configuration, any mix of hybrid technology. Allow each engine supplier to push its limits on the area they consider relevant, don’t try to level everyone off to the same constraints. That’s simply wrong in my opinion.

      • Dave (@raceprouk) said on 11th April 2014, 10:45

        F1 isn’t “developing” anything

        Apart from cutting-edge advances in hybrid technology and fuel efficiency. There is no better environment than top-flight motorsport to push technology to the limit.

      • You don’t need to invent a new type of light bulb to have “developed” something. The new engine’s have pushed the development of existing technology and as we have recently learned, Mercedes who have designed an ingenious new configuration of a turbo engine would not have been here without the new format.

        Fortunately for us (perhaps not for the environment) most of us live in a free world where it’s our choice if we prefer a three ton SUV or a Smart car. What F1 is pushing is the fact that the SUV no longer needs a six liter V8 but can do fine on a two liter turbo which including hybrid can reach 20km/l.

        Unless you want to dictate what people can drive that’s exactly what we need to do.

      • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 11th April 2014, 17:46

        Where else is the MGU-H used? @dennis

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 11th April 2014, 9:20

      Thanks man.

      Now night races are an environmental crime that kills the rationale of any attempt to strive for the development of greener and more advanced power generation engines…

  8. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 11th April 2014, 1:19

    Abu Dhabi organizers will be really annoyed, angry and scammed if they paid a whole lot of extra money for the season finale with double “emotion”. I still don’t buy it. See to believe.

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 11th April 2014, 2:06

      Exactly, it’s probably been paid for, which makes reneging on the rule unlikely.

    • Keith Campbell (@keithedin) said on 11th April 2014, 8:34

      The article doesn’t say specifically this year, so i presume they mean scrap it for future years, although it’s not very clear. I don’t see how they could scrap it this year, the teams who have scored a lot of points (Mercedes and maybe Force India) will likely vote against it so it would never go through.

      And regardless of how much most dislike the rule, i would rather they didn’t change rules mid-season (unless there is a safety issue or a clarification on some loophole). The teams will have already developed a strategy based on the double points race, which could include engine usage, focus of car design, or even the planned changeover of resources between this year and the 2015 car.

      • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 13:28

        @keithedin, Let’s just assume that you are right (most unlikely) and the teams have decided to save 1 engine and several aero upgrades for the last race, what happens if the double whammy last race extravaganza gets dropped ? what happens is the teams now become free to use those engines and updates when needed rather than saving them for 1 last race, there is no disadvantage there for anyone at this stage.

  9. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 11th April 2014, 1:28

    If BMW gets back, it’s a round of applause to this new formula from every single point of view.

  10. Jay Menon (@jaymenon10) said on 11th April 2014, 1:33

    Dear Marcus Ericsson,

    I sympathise with your weight issue, if it is an issue at all. Perhaps that isnt the reason why you’re constantly slower than your teamate. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps, you’re just a bit…well…slower? Nico Hulkenberg, whose weight apparently “hulks” above the rest of grid, doesnt seem to have too much trouble getting on terms with his diminutive teamate.

    So, shut up and buck up!

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 2:32

      @jaymenon10, so just exactly what is the difference in carrying an extra 10 kg of fuel and carrying an extra 10 kg of flesh and bone? I think you need to take your own advice.

      • Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 2:37

        Touche.. and on this topic, it sounds like someone at the FIA has received the message if they are considering to dump double points. Small steps in preparation for a possible big hurdle..

    • Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 2:35

      The Force India is light enough to come under the weight limit with Hulk in it. So he only loses out on the amount of ballast to place.. possibly a tenth, like Webber had with Vettel. From Marcus’ statements it sounds like the Caterham is over the weight limit, like the Sauber. If anything, he needs the higher weight limit of next year, while Frijns I imagine is closer to Kobayashi’s weight, hence being a few tenths faster than Marcus in the recent test they did together.

    • In_Silico (@insilico) said on 11th April 2014, 2:50

      @jaymenon10 Who are you to judge or give criticism to Marcus Ericsson? After all, could you drive an F1 car to a miniscule percentage of the capability of him? No, and along with loads of other reasons which I couldn’t be bothered to post, comments like that have no basis whatsoever.

    • Frans said on 11th April 2014, 3:42

      If you read the interview, it said that both cars (Ericsson and Kobayashi) are over the weight limit. If Ericsson is 10KG heavier than Kobayashi, then he will carry 10KG more dead weight on his car. Like other have said, Sauber, or at least with Sutil, is probably over the weight limit. It’s the teams job to produce a better car, but while they’re doing that, Ericsson going to look much worse than it should compared to his team mate.

    • Jay Menon (@jaymenon10) said on 11th April 2014, 7:10

      Ok…got my hands up..bad comment….apologies to Marcus Ericsson.

  11. Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 1:36

    Ahh that Chilton post is hilarious on many levels, notably the lack of spelling. But it’s interesting that he would get more seat time in rFactor to go with the real British F3.. I guess most racing drivers now will have tried many sim options in their down time. I know Max uses sims a lot now in his driver development from what I recall seeing.

    “Max did you get it sorted?
    blackeagleuk on Apr-08-2010″

    Interesting to see that it’s based of the French mod for 2007 F3.. top 4 that year being Grosjean, Buemi, Hulkenberg and Kobayashi.. I should have explored rFactor a bit more, that sounds very interesting to drive. But I can understand Max having problems with it, I found it less cohesive as a package to sort out for things than in GPL.

    • mantresx (@mantresx) said on 11th April 2014, 6:16

      Makes you wonder why he used his real name, maybe he was showing off and thought people would help him more quickly, everyone should make a habit of searching properly before posting any questions, even F1 drivers!

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 11th April 2014, 9:45

        @mantresx Why shouldn’t he use his real name? All he was doing is ask for technical support.

        • mantresx (@mantresx) said on 11th April 2014, 15:08

          To avoid embarrassing tweets in the future hehe. But seriously he didn’t need to say he was a driver to get assistance, maybe to give the developers some feedback but not for this.

      • Jarred Walmsley (@jarred-walmsley) said on 11th April 2014, 9:53

        @mantresx It was in 2010 long before he became an F1 driver, as Keith said why not use his real name

      • Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 14:25

        I don’t think it’s showing off, more putting across some common ground. If you think about it, they could get useful feedback onthe mod from him as he has driven the actual car. The only showing off would be from us inferring that he can spend a few hundred thousand pounds (himself or via sponsors) to run the British F3 season!

        PS. I always try to post with my real name.. if you wouldn’t post something otherwise then why post it. I’m sure we’ve all been naive to “Google is your friend” when we were growing up too :)

  12. “Red Bull’s case getting stronger” Guess RedBull have taken their slogan literally because apparently Ricciardo was actually flying he wasn’t using fuel.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 2:43

      Well he has proved he can be fast and competitive without exceeding the 100kgph limit.

      • Deej92 (@deej92) said on 11th April 2014, 12:24

        Too true.

      • Paul A (@paul-a) said on 11th April 2014, 14:21

        Actually, that could be incorrect. He has proven that he can be fast and competitive without the FIA-mandated fuel sensor recording a number in excess of 100. There’s an appeal pending, so could we please stick with “innocent until proven guilty”? (Although I really do dislike the idea that the technical directives can be abused, by both sides, to this extent.)

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 11th April 2014, 19:42

      Its pretty funny when the team mention that new issues make their case stronger, when we have seen reports that actually the issue could very well have at least something to do with modifications several teams make to their sensors to fit them into their cars differently.

  13. ME4ME (@me4me) said on 11th April 2014, 2:30

    I prefer that they keep double points for this year. A change of rules would be wrong mid-season. Let’s see how double points work this year, and have the argument again next winter. Somehow i hope someone catches up to the Mercedes driver and takes home the WDC title just to show Tod & Co what they’ve actually done..

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 2:36

      I do like subtle humour. Umm you were joking, right?

    • Sergey Martyn said on 11th April 2014, 4:35

      Oh thank you, now I understand that the whole thing is just for proving something to Todt & co! All those years I was believing F1 is for pleasing the fans not the bosses.

      • ME4ME (@me4me) said on 11th April 2014, 11:11

        @hohum, no joke. I think almost any rule change mid-season is wrong. It inevitably gives an advantage to some, while hurting other teams. The tire change of last year was only acceptable because of safety. So i honestly think we should just live with it (double points) for this year and see how it all unfolds.

  14. HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 2:41

    Well let’s see, double points being reconsidered (again), Bernie going to use the internet to provide promotion and profits for F1.

    So who says no-one in F1 reads the comments in F1 Fanatic and other blogs.

    • Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty) said on 11th April 2014, 14:31

      Yeah, I’m surprised to hear it but I’m glad nevertheless to hear some engagement with online content at last. It’s interesting that it took Ferrari and Williams calling their strategy outdated to raise the issue. F1 also doesn’t really need the bad PR surrounding double points anymore that will inevitably rise near the occasion as well, and it’s increasingly looking like it’ll be a two horse race anyway. Can you imagine Senna vs. Prost with double points at the finale? There’ll be a huge backlash too if either driver loses the title via something like a ‘plastic tube fault’ like Lewis had at Melbourne. Reminds me of Arrows losing a first race win at Hungary from a 50p seal breaking.

  15. Aimal (@aimalkhan) said on 11th April 2014, 2:43

    I was watching some amazing videos on the Moto GP YouTube channel and thought why doesn’t F1 has the same? i am please to hear that they are taking notice. A well run YouTube channel is a must these days.

    • Sam (@) said on 11th April 2014, 9:09

      Yeah, I don’t understand they haven’t got a channel now. WEC, WRC and MotoGP all have very good and interesting channels. It’s a shame F1 is so behind in that matter.

      • andrewf1 (@andrewf1) said on 11th April 2014, 9:35

        I can’t wait for dinosaur Bernie to leave the sport and someone professional and up-to-date to take over the management of the sport’s content. F1 is so so outdated in every aspect of it’s relationship with the fans, it’s embarrasing.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 11th April 2014, 9:25

      With less video footage than on other sports sites such as the National Basketball Association’s nba.com, Formula1.com is less popular than other sports portals such as filgoal.com, about Egyptian soccer, and World Wrestling Entertainment, according to analytics company alexa.com.

      Appaling!

    • gregwtravels (@gregwtravels) said on 11th April 2014, 11:20

      F1’s behind-the-times digital presence is indicative of the larger issues with fan connectivity we see in the sport. When personality (specifically one personality) is running the show and thinks he’s right, what you get is what Bernie believes. We’ll have to see what any change to their online presence brings, but this feels very reactive to the fact they are so behind rather than driving innovation.

      I think they won’t get the branding and fan connectivity right until they have a more open management structure, where new ideas can be heard and there is an understanding that new ideas need to be tested to see how your customers will react.

    • The_Pope said on 11th April 2014, 12:25

      Shame they’ve crippled the web Live Timing but removing the sector times. The iPad app (costing £10 a year) is very nice, but there’s no Android version!

      How much money do they really expect to rake in by charging for this sort of thing, versus putting off long-term, hardcore fans who want this level of detail??

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