Alonso capitalises on Red Bull errors for Silverstone win

2011 British GP review

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Silverstone, 2011

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Silverstone, 2011

Fernando Alonso triumphed in a thrilling British Grand Prix.

The Ferrari driver scored his first win of the year after Red Bull made a mistake during Sebastian Vettel’s pit stop.

Vettel had taken the lead from second on the grid at the start. He passed Webber, who started from pole position, as the race began on a partly wet track.

The entire field opted to start the race on intermediates as the track was heavily wet for much of the lap but almost dry around the new pits.

Vettel led Webber, Alonso and Jenson Button, who passed Felipe Massa at the start. But Massa came back at Button on the second lap at Village to claim his place back.

Button then came under attack from his team mate. Lewis Hamilton had picked off Kamui Kobayashi, Nico Rosberg and Pastor Maldonado in quick succession at the start, followed by Paul di Resta.

On lap three he passed Button for fifth and set off in pursuit of Massa. But his chase was delayed when he took to the run-off at Brooklands.

Meanwhile Vettel was making his escape, pulling away from Webber at up to a second per lap.

Schumacher hits Kobayashi

Michael Schumacher had made a great start, picking up four places and challenging Kobayashi for eighth. But when Kobayashi ran wide at Brooklands Schumacher clipped the back of the Sauber, tipping him into a spin, and breaking the front wing on the Mercedes.

Schumacher had to replace the nose and was later summoned for a stop-go penalty – the stewards using them instead of the usual drive-throughs because Silverstone’s new pit lane carries such a small time penalty.

He took the opportunity to switch to soft tyres and his quick sectors times showed the other teams it was the way to go. Button was among the first to make the switch and he was instantly faster, having struggled somewhat on intermediates.

The cars in front followed suit, Hamilton jumping past Massa by pitting before him. The top three kept the same order, Vettel delaying his stop, not needing to take any risk as he’d built up an eight-second lead.

Hamilton versus Alonso

After the pit stops Hamilton was right on Alonso’s tail, the Ferrari driver struggling to get his tyres up to temperature. He dived down the inside at Copse and claimed third place.

But he couldn’t leave the Ferrari behind and just a few laps later, Alonso was close enough to use his DRS. With the wing open on the Wellington straight, he passed Hamilton in a straight line as they headed to the braking zone at Brooklands.

Hamilton pitted at the end of that lap, taking on a fresh set of soft tyres. Alonso was flying, lapping quicker on old tyres than Hamilton did on his first lap on a new set.

This round of pit stops proved decisive, as both Red Bull drivers lost time and came out behind Hamilton, promoting Alonso into the lead.

While Vettel tried for lap after lap to dislodge Hamilton from second, Alonso made good his escape, pulling out a ten-second lead over his pursuers.

Vettel takes back second

Vettel got as close as he could to Hamilton without passing him, almost pushing the McLaren down the straight towards Copse in his efforts to get past.

Eventually he changed tack and made for the pits for a third and final pit stop. This one was executed cleanly, and when Hamilton came in on the next lap Vettel was easily through into second.

McLaren believed they’d seen a opportunity to get Button ahead of Webber, and told him on the radio to pit to overtake the Red Bull. But the message was replayed on the worldwide broadcast and Red Bull lost no time in bringing Webber in. McLaren aborted Button’s pit stop and brought him in on the next lap.

He didn’t get much further than the pits. The mechanic on his front-right wheel failed to attach it properly, and it worked loose as he left. Button pulled over into retirement.

Fourth-placed Webber was now bearing down on Hamilton, who McLaren had urged to save fuel. Red Bull relayed that message to Webber as well, adding: “McLaren could be bluffing to get us to kill the tyres.”

They weren’t. Webber passed Hamilton easily in the DRS zone and the McLaren driver now had Massa’s Ferrari to worry about.

The battle between the two came down to the last lap as Massa tried to take him on the outside at Vale. The pair banged wheels and Hamilton cut back up the inside of the Ferrari at Club, snatching fourth place back as they sprinted for the line.

Red Bull call off the fight

This was exactly the kind of racing Red Bull did not want to see between their two drivers.

Webber had closed on Vettel at over a second per lap after passing Hamilton. With around four laps to go the team ordered him to hold position behind his team mate.

In the press conference after the race, Webber revealed he ignored the order. He raced Vettel firmly but fairly for the position and lost out by less than half a second.

Alonso, meanwhile, had romped off to an emphatic win. Far from catching the Ferrari after getting past Hamilton, Vettel had dropped back, and Alonso crossed the line over 16 seconds clear despite backing off at the end.

Nico Rosberg finished sixth, heading a trio of cars who all made two stops instead of the three preferred by the leaders.

He dropped back at the start but fought back, passing Maldonado and the Sergio Perez, the latter finishing five seconds behind the Mercedes.

Nick Heidfeld rebuffed a challenge from the recovering Schumacher to hold on to eighth place.

The final point went to Jaime Alguersuari, who had followed his team mate past Vitaly Petrov earlier in the race, only for Sebastien Buemi to drop out following contact with Paul di Resta.

Pit problem delays Di Resta

Di Resta had looked a dead cert for points until Force India made a mistake on his pit call, telling him to stay out when he was already in the pit lane. Adrian Sutil ended the race 11th in front of Petrov.

There were no points for either of the Williams drivers, Rubens Barrichello finishing 13th in front of Maldonado.

With neither Lotus finishing, Timo Glock took 16th for Virgin in front of his team mate. The HRTs of Vitantonio Liuzzi and Daniel Ricciardo were the last runners.

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91 comments on Alonso capitalises on Red Bull errors for Silverstone win

  1. Finally, someone other thabn Vettel manages to dominatingly win. If only Red Bull could make mistakes like this…

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 10th July 2011, 19:19

      I’d rather watch a team catch Red Bull than see them make mistakes.

      • bosyber (@bosyber) said on 10th July 2011, 21:17

        I do think that Alonso would have been close to Vettel at the end even without the pitstop, not sure he would have won, and clearly with less of a big lead at least, but he would have been in the fight.

      • Yup, let’s hope Ferrari are actually Red Bull. They should or the season would be a bore.

        • TheBrav3 said on 10th July 2011, 22:38

          Even horner said to MB when he left the forum that he thought alonso would have won mistake or not. That was not on camera so i don’t see what reason he would have to lie about it.

    • Abbiej (@abbiej) said on 10th July 2011, 22:38

      I agree. It got really boring seeing Vettel win nearly every race. Although im not keen on alonso it was good to see someone other than Vettel/RedBull to win..
      However i hope to see Button up on the podium again soon!!

  2. Daniel said on 10th July 2011, 17:30

    should be Alonso/Ferrari capitalises on FIA rule changes for SIlverstone win.

    • David-A (@david-a) said on 10th July 2011, 17:48

      Should be “It rained in Silverstone, now the Ferrari haters are here to rain on F1Fanatic”.

    • RIISE (@riise) said on 10th July 2011, 17:49

      Were you watching Valencia? Ferrari had the pace there, so there was no reason why they wouldn’t this weekend.

      The bitterness of some people is so embarrassing. Just admit Fernando drove a great race.

      • Daniel said on 10th July 2011, 17:53

        Valencia Vettal won by 10 seconds on cruise mode.

        • RIISE (@riise) said on 10th July 2011, 18:10

          Cruise mode? Seriously? The fact was Alonso split the Red Bulls. Which would obviously suggest the Ferrari has outright pace.

          • Daniel said on 10th July 2011, 19:33

            no, considering Webber hasn’t finished every race in 2nd place.

          • dennis (@dennis) said on 10th July 2011, 19:33

            Webber had gearbox problems in Valencia… Now get back on the ground again.
            Vettel drove ahead as far as he needed to, then saved some engine life.

            Horner revealed Vettel yet again ran into KERS problems today. Yes, Alonso drove great, no doubt. But it’s not like he won like this without Red Bull and the FIA helping him.

    • Ferrari had updates which they said worked very well, they were quick at Valencia and Canada and apparently they weren’t one of the teams to object to the rules changing back (according to Benson it was Sauber and Williams). Ferrari won because they did the best job this weekend.

      • Eggry (@eggry) said on 10th July 2011, 18:01

        Oh really? Williams…

      • Valentino said on 10th July 2011, 19:10

        I don’t know what Alonso’s pace would be with hard tires?

      • TheBrav3 said on 10th July 2011, 22:44

        Well stefano domenicali basically said they were holding off on signing off on going back to valencia spec. For the sake of good will and the sport they agreed, more or less his words not mine. At the end of the bbc 1 show.

        • Ferrari were being smart then and not causing any arguments but if the sole reason they could be competitive was because of the rule change I seriously doubt that Ferrari would agree to sign back all for keeping the sake of keeping a bit of peace.

    • Jelle van der Meer (@jelle-van-der-meer) said on 10th July 2011, 18:58

      There are 2 effects:
      * Mclaren and Red Bull wings cut short by the ridiculous decision of the FIA to change rules mid season
      * Ferrari finally to the speed the showed in pre-season testing, probably having found and fixed the discrepancy between windtunnel data and reality

      I am absolutely no fan of Alonso (as person, great racer) and also Ferrari and usual dirty politics or Ferrari Internationl Assistence (FIA) but they REALLY deserver this win – pitstop error or not Alonso would have won. No way Vettel could have kept Alonso behind him, lap after lap Alonso was more than a second quicker, particularly the 2nd sector (weird BBC didn’t pick it up) he (and Massa) were often more than a second quicker than the Red Bull and Mclaren drivers

      It would be good of Ferrari to agree to reverting back to Valencia ruling as 11 out of 12 teams already agreed including the teams that initially wanted to file protest. The issue is now not the blown diffusors but FIA’s stupid decision to change rules mid season.

      Fairly sure Jean Todt specifically made it unanimous instead of 3/4 in favour to allow Ferrari (who most profits from rule change to veto the change back).

      • TheBrav3 said on 10th July 2011, 22:48

        It had to be all or nothing to stop protests from a team like hispania williams or sauber who seemed to gain/didn’t have a ebd system at all. In which case we would have had the silverstone mess all over again.

  3. BasCB (@bascb) said on 10th July 2011, 17:33

    A bit of a shame that even with this great win by Alonso, Vettel actually gains a bigger lead once again (also a bit helped by Horner bothering Webber with annoying talk).

    It might have been better if Hamilton could have pushed until the Flag, or indeed Button hadn’t stopped without the wheelnut. DiResta might have been very good in the points if not for his assorted troubles today. Most of it was not his mistake though, so he can take courage from that.
    And Perez did the trick of ending up in the solid points again! Also congratulations for Ricciardo for keeping everything together to the flag.

    I really enjoyed my racing, and only a few times saw DRS being far to much to be good. Pretty nice TV coverage as well, although they had a hard choise with following WEB/VET and MAS/HAM in the last lap.

  4. Fixy (@fixy) said on 10th July 2011, 17:36

    Wow! We don’t get a race like that often. Many mistkaes which kept the drivers very close to each other. It seemed the fate did everything to make Alonso and Ferrari win, an historic win as they won their first race here 60 years ago.
    Maldonado was disappointing. He fell behind Barrichello who started much further behind the grid than him.
    Also di Resta once again hit the driver in front damaging his front wing. He should have taken the measures of the car by now.

  5. Eggry (@eggry) said on 10th July 2011, 17:44

    That bluffing radio was quite funny. I’ve never thought someone can afford such thing except Vettel when he’s cruising.

  6. I know Vettel had pit problems but I thought it was a very good win from Alonso. He stayed calm, got his tyres into the zone to repass Hamilton and once he was in the elad he was just pulling out sensational times that I couldn’t dream of matching on F12010 with the aids turned on :P

    • Eggry (@eggry) said on 10th July 2011, 17:50

      Repass on Hamilton was incredible. once again he shows he could control the situation.

      • infy (@infy) said on 10th July 2011, 18:39

        He really seems to have Lewis in control in their 1 on 1 battles if I think back to all their dices in the last 2 years (besides the one where he drove into the back of Lewis).

        • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 10th July 2011, 19:26

          He does seem to be able to keep his cool, yes.

        • Santi said on 10th July 2011, 22:01

          It seems to me that Lewis and Alonso are about the only drivers able to pass each other properly this season :)

        • Todfod (@todfod) said on 10th July 2011, 22:17

          True. I always remember Hamilton gloating that he has the ability to ‘get to’ Alonso, but since mid season last year it seems that Alonso has been taking him to school.

          • TheBrav3 said on 10th July 2011, 22:52

            pfff hamilton made a mega pass on alonso early on, on slicks on the wet track supreme bravery and skill. Like wise when the tables turned alonso was able to make a good move on hamilton neither of them has taken either of them to school.

    • Ahmad Damaj said on 10th July 2011, 21:20

      On F12010 we don’t have KERS and DRS. Yet.

    • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 10th July 2011, 21:24

      he was just pulling out sensational times that I couldn’t dream of matching on F12010 with the aids turned on

      That’s the problem Steph. You have to turn EDB aids off, and you’ll match Alonso’s pace.

      • I tried Stefanauss but when I tried to pass my team mate I crashed into him… ahhh,now I see what Horner’s worried about ;)

        • OEL said on 10th July 2011, 22:37

          Well, as long as you’re not driving one of his cars he shouldn’t have anything to worry about! ;)

  7. Laranja Mecanica said on 10th July 2011, 18:04

    ALO had the pace on the dry and might still have won without RBR’s pit mistake. But we’ll never know. Anyway his best (though unwitting) ally was HAM, holding up VET for so long.

    • Becken said on 10th July 2011, 18:12

      Considering how Vettel couldn’t pass Hamilton with a HUGE and superior pace, I coundn’t see him doing it with Alonso either…

      • Eggry (@eggry) said on 10th July 2011, 18:28

        Last time he tried to pass Hamilton, his nose was about to stab Hamilton’s diffuser. I’ve never seen such closing gap in corners not in straight however he didn’t make it. Once again many people would have doubt about his overtaking skill.

  8. Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 10th July 2011, 18:08

    Yet again another collision for Schumacher, although this is the “right” type of collision, one that can happen when you’re racing and not when you’re making silly assumptions about where the other driver is on the track like in Turkey or Valencia.
    However, still an error.

    But I’ve been positively impressed with his recent pace. He was faster than Nico all the way round today. That edge that Nico has on him is slimmer in QLF, but it seems to be gone completely and turned into a deficit for Nico on Sundays.

    • RIISE (@riise) said on 10th July 2011, 18:40

      Well this is the way you have to look at it.

      Michael was practically a rookie last year, what with new regulations and not driving single seaters competitively in lower formulae. It was completely foreign and naturally all Rookies need a year or so to fully adjust. Now Michael is somewhat “one” with the car it was only a matter of time before he started getting the best of Nico. He is far from his dominant former self but there are glimpses of that race master peeking through occasionally. I just hope Mercedes can give him a race winning car to put him fully in his element.

      As for the collision, it’s a tricky one, he simply braked too late which is completely his fault but look how many times Hamilton did the same thing on the run down the Wellington straight, could’ve happened to anyone.

      • zappy j said on 10th July 2011, 21:25

        Strange, seemed to see another collision for Hamilton too. Ram someone off the track at your home race and you’re a hero.

        • Lee said on 10th July 2011, 22:08

          Are you really serious?

          If anyone was at fault it was Massa! Massa made the late breaking move on the outside which was always going to be a gamble, Hamilton was on the inside and Massa cut across him. However I would rather see these sort of moves than watch a procession of cars going around a track. I am glad neither driver got a penalty as this is racing but if one was to get a penalty it would have had to be massa as Hamilton clearly had nowhere to go but in to Massa.

          If you are an F1 fan you will understand this however if you have no idea about what you are talking about then I can understand your view.

          • TheBrav3 said on 10th July 2011, 22:55

            No i’m english and for the first time this year I actually thought hamilton deserved a penalty. Considering all the moves he *has* gotten penaltys for this one seemed worse.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 10th July 2011, 23:22

            Massa left Hamilton room when trying to pass around the outside, Hamilton had a bit of understeer and made contact with Massa. Neither driver is “at fault”, since it’s really just a racing incident.

            There is no need to deflect the blame onto anyone who isn’t called Lewis Hamilton. Nor is there the need to cheaply claim that anyone who doesn’t agree with you doesn’t understand the sport.

          • TheBrav3 said on 11th July 2011, 0:44

            David A schumacher got a penalty for basicly the same thing. Granted it was more pronounced e.g he came from further back and faster speed. But it was on a very wet track and the first time he used drs, i’d say that was more understandable than a coming together at hairpin speeds and yet he got a penalty. The only reason i could see for the difference of opinion with the stewards is that it was at the end of the race and so neither hamilton or massas race was comprimised but i don’t know if that even matters.

            Personaly i think 95% of the penaltys this year have been uncalled for but if they’re given there should at least be consistancy.

          • Lee said on 11th July 2011, 0:46

            @David A

            I am not deflecting any blame. It was clear that it was massas move and he tried an outbreaking manouver around the outside of a very tight corner. This was always going to be a gamble as to whether hamilton could stop or whether massa would be forced off the track. Don’t get me wrong, I do not blame massa at all and love to see these moves as long as they are not undoubtedly stupid. I agree that Neither driver deserved a penalty. However for anyone to blame Lewis for this particular incident is just plain silly as there was never going to be quite enough room for them both if hamilton could not take an almost impossibly tight line around the corner. Hamilton has stated that he simply could not stop on his cold breaks (remember these breaks need to be at operating temp in order to work properly) and also Massa has stated that he thought that it was a perfectly fine battle.

            My point is that it was great to see a good battle to the end but if anyone was to be punished it certainly would not have been Hamilton as he was the one being overtaken, massa would have been the one that would have caused an avoidable incident as he was the one that made the daring move.

            For the record I also thought Schumachers penalty was harsh and I honestly can’t stand him…

            My views are rarely based on my like for a driver and are mostly based on simple fact or my love of motor racing (Racing being the operative word).

          • Lee said on 11th July 2011, 0:54

            @TheBrav3

            Scumacher did not get a penalty for the same thing. In that incident it was schumacher simply loosing control a little. He was not even trying a move as such. Plus even if he was it would have been him that was making the move while in the hamilton incident it was massa making the move. They were not even slightly the same incidents and I also thought Schumachers penalty was very harsh given the track conditions.

            To add to that Hamilton was trying to stop in a very short distance (due to Massa placing his car on the outside of the tight corner) on cold breaks (due to his fuel saving). They both did well not to take each other out of the race completely.

      • Robbie said on 11th July 2011, 15:01

        Lol, Riise…how did we go from MS needing only a few races after his return to F1 to be on form (that from Ross Brawn and all MS fans) to MS being practically a rookie last year and therefore like rookies needing a year or so to fully adjust? Are you suggesting his status as 7 time WDC means nothing then?

        It is only because of his shabby results in his return ie. his rookie-like driving, that an excuse like ‘he is practically a rookie all over again’ is even being suggested by you. Can you imagine how silly his return would have sounded back when he announced it if the general concensus was that he was practically a rookie again, and therefore starting an F1 career at 40 plus years of age? He would have been lauged out of any thought of coming back.

        As no MS fan I can sure be accused of running the guy into the ground for a lot of controversial things in his career. You have done the opposite and are reaching very very far to defend the man.

        MS may be finally matching NR but still finds himself being outqualified by him, outpointed by him by 12 now, and without MS’s good starts he’d be nowhere still. The good starts only work if one doesn’t squander them.

        Since MS is far from being a rookie, every race proves more and more what advantages it took for him to have in the past such that he was able to compile the numbers he did.

  9. ferrari4life said on 10th July 2011, 18:21

    Hey im not a big fan of lewis but ill be the first to tell you he drove a good genuine race today and was rooting for him to get on the podium. Just cause your driver didnt make the cut today dont sit there and undermine what alonso did, he was well on the pace to catch vettel anyway, but the pit stop made it far too easy and gave him a small gap that would ultimately lead to an easier win. Def driver of the day, some agree, others might not..

    • Lee said on 10th July 2011, 22:17

      I would say Lewis was the driver of the day purely as he managed to take so many places in vary difficult conditions and for his amazingly daring and skillful pass on Alonso. However although I can’t stand Alonso I do admit he drove a very good race and fully deserved his win. He is not driver of the day though for me as he was in a car that was clearly within a chance of winning from the start while Lewis was in a car that was 2 seconds off the pace!

      You might think my opinion is biased but I have to say that my dislike for Alonso is for him as a person (after hearing first hand accounts from people I know at Ferrari, plus his antics at Maclaren etc). As a racing driver I think he is one of the best out there and admire his skill very much. After all I am an F1 fan so the driving is what I admire most about a driver.

      It will be interesting to see if Ferrari are as competitive come next race if the rules are put back to what they were before Valencia. I certainly hope so as I am getting very bored of Red Bulls dominance. Maclaren should certainly see a return to competitiveness again.

      • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 10th July 2011, 22:42

        He is not driver of the day though for me as he was in a car that was clearly within a chance of winning from the start while Lewis was in a car that was 2 seconds off the pace!

        I don’t get it. Based on this logic, Ricciardo is the driver of the day for sure.
        Hamilton had a car that was way off the pace, and he finished way off the pace. Alonso had a winning car, and he won. Overall pretty straightforward for them when it comes at achieving their full potential today. It’s not like Lewis outperformed his car today, really.

        Of course it still makes sense that he’s your DOTD if you think he raced better in some way that you find more valuable, but it doesn’t make sense to name him like that just because he hadn’t a winning car. He didn’t come even close to win, indeed.

        • Lee said on 11th July 2011, 1:09

          Well he did not come far off if the fuel issue had not arisen. Plus He was nowhere near as far off the pace as the qualifying time suggested he should be. He should have been at least 1min 44 down judging by his qualy times but he was less than 30 secs and that was with him lifting off to save fuel!

          Comparing this to riccardo is ridiculous as he finished last! He also finished around the same distance down as was suggested by his qualy times (although that is difficult to judge as he was out in q1)

          Heidfeld was the other driver that performed over and above, although he was helped a bit by two drivers ahead retiring and one given a stop go penalty. Still a great drive though.

          • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 11th July 2011, 8:56

            That’s still nonsense. These direct proportionality you’re making to justify your pick for the DOTD has no room in F1, *particularly* this year where the very pace of the pace-setter (Red Bull) has been massively different from QLF to race day in every single event.

            Of course the comparison with Ricciardo is ridicolous, i used it to point out how “Bad car makes for great driver” was a faulty deduction. And this direct proportion you’re making it’s even worse in this aspect because that makes Alguersuari the DOTD by light years in front of anyone using your own bases (of course he did very well but I think not many people would pick him for DOTD).

            Also you can’t take the rising of fuel issues for Lewis and suggest that without them He would have not been so off the pace and even actively fighting for the win.
            Saving fuel is an integral part of GPs since the ban of refuelling. *Every* driver saves fuel during *every* GP, that’s how engine map are designed. If you take the default engine map (meaning the map that will be used most of the time during the race) and use it throughout the whole race without changing it, you won’t make it to the end of the distance. You’ll run out of fuel.
            Any driver encountering fuel issues these days does that simply because earlier in the race they would/could not compromise enough/at all in terms of performance, most of the time because they found themselves constantly battling with different drivers (the same happened to Rosberg in China this year). If Lewis would have follow a more homogeneous fuel strategy he wouldn’t have had the need to back off in the finale stages but also not the edge in performance to fight that hard in the middle of it, and roughly finished the same distance down.

          • Lee said on 11th July 2011, 10:36

            I am not basing my entire decision on proportionality. Hamilton was excellent to watch and made some fantastic passes. The pass on alonso showed particular skill and guts. However you also have to look at what he got out of the car he had and also where he started and finished. That is after all the main point of F1 Racing (ie to get the most out of the car and to finish as high up as possible given your start position). I am not denying that Alonso drove very well and fully deserved his win, however he was helped a great deal by Hamilton (or Vettels inability to overtake, depending on how you look at it) and The RB pit stop issues. But still a great drive. Hamilton had a poor car and finished in 4th having started 10th on the grid. He handled the conditions brilliantly at the start and handled Alonso and Vettel very well while they were behind him.

            And Alguersuari also fully deserves praise too and is indeed also in contention of driver of the day but was helped by 3 retirements ahead of him.

            I agree with you on the fuel issue to a point as yes it is entirely normal to need to save some fuel at some point, however is seems that Hamilton had even less than he expected to have as normally the fuel saving is not quite so severe. It seemed to catch out the team too as they appeared to be a little puzzled too. So my point is that Hamiltons fuel issue was unexpected rather than something that he should have managed earlier on. Indeed he seemed to back off earlier in the race too which is obviously normal in a race.

            However it is obviously difficult to assume he would have finished higher up or not as we will never really know.

          • Leeh1987 said on 11th July 2011, 13:05

            Also take into consideration Lewis’s fantastic defensive display against the much faster Vettel. Great race from lewis. Really seems like mclaren sruggle with hot track temperatures and ferrari struggle in cold track temperature. Ferrari also seem to struggle with the harder compound aswell

  10. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 10th July 2011, 18:24

    It was a brilliant race. I didn’t watch qualifying yesterday so I was AMAIZED at that cable camera that showed the whole Brooklands, Luffield and back to the old start/finish straight. It was superb to see the cars taking so many different lines when it was still wet.

    The changing conditions worked brilliantly too. Appart from the Red Bull orders, everything was great. The battles between Hamilton, Alonso, Webber, Vettel, Massa… and Rosberg-Perez! Epic!

    I watched the full race on the BBC, and boy it makes the whole thing so much more enjoyable than this south american noobs we have here.

    Just 1 thing, it’s spelled “PÉrez”, Martin… not “PerĂ©z”.

    • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 10th July 2011, 18:32

      Agree, just replace “south american” with “italian”.

      • Eggry (@eggry) said on 10th July 2011, 18:39

        Haha I have been about to wonder where are those south american noobs.

        • Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 10th July 2011, 18:48

          3 Argies and a Mexican that uses skype to make comments about the race (mostly about Maldonado and Perez, obviously… and he’s always talking rubbish).

          The 3 argies are lame too. But they miss too much of the team talks and make silly mistakes while commentating. Even me, sitting on my sofa, with a cup of coffee on one hand and a cookie on the other, understand so much more about the race than they do.

          And not to mention the adverts… every 10 laps!

  11. HoHum (@hohum) said on 10th July 2011, 19:19

    Meanwhile…..down here at “Conspiracy central” we are wondering whether Mark Webber made a bad start or a million dollar start, of course we don’t believe that “I ignored race orders…..Seb beat me fair and square” routine all he had to say was he put on a race for the fans and still helped his team and team-mate maintain there lead, but I have not seen the interview so all bets are on hold.

    • Solo (@solo) said on 11th July 2011, 0:16

      Well you can help but wonder. Considering some statements even before the season starts i though Webber accepted his second driver role but considering the fiasco in the last laps, ether he did not or Red Bull was pulling an Oscar production.
      There is also the possibility that a certain number 2 just did something on the last laps that he could do earlier too, just to show frustration about his treatment.

  12. John H said on 10th July 2011, 19:36

    Great drive by Alonso. I’m not a big fan of his but credit where it is due, that was a great victory. Silverstone was the perfect response to Valencia, thank you Damon Hill.

  13. NJB said on 10th July 2011, 20:37

    Delighted to see alonso back to winning ways and with a seemingly more competitive ferrari underneath him.

    What a welcome relief to have a weekend free from vettel’s infuriating finger waving and juvenile radio messages. He should look to alonso as an example of how to celebrate a victory with true class.

    • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 10th July 2011, 20:40

      Yes. Just like Nurburgring 2007, for instance.

      • David-A (@david-a) said on 10th July 2011, 21:07

        Haha, yeah. There are too many people that search for a reason to bash Vettel.

        “Vettel celebrates at all when he wins, he says anything at all on the radio, he shows emotion when he wins his first title, but if he didn’t do any of that, he’d be an emotionless robot who I’d still complain about.”

        • NJB said on 10th July 2011, 22:53

          I don’t need to ‘search’ for reasons to criticise Vettel, they are plain to see.

          He has no humility in victory even though his car allowing him a succession of cheap victories and a what will ultimately be a pretty hollow WDC.

          I don’t find him a ‘genuine character’ as he likes to portray himself. To me his demeanor seems quite affected and not at all befitting of a champion.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 10th July 2011, 23:16

            Saying his wins are “cheap” or “hollow” proves my point about simply disliking him for the sake of it. So what if his car is good? Should he give it away to let someone else win?

            Vettel is winning championships because he is a phenomenal talent, proven by his time at STR and BMW, and just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean his wins are hollow.

            Catch him on Top Gear (iPlayer) to find that he is a genuinely nice and funny guy. Definitely a worthy and fitting champion for the sport.

          • Lee said on 11th July 2011, 10:45

            I think you are a bit wide of the mark there. To be honest I am not certain of his overall talent as he certainly does not appear to have the same ability to pass as Hamilton and Alonso, but it is clear that he is incredibly quick when given a clear track in front of him. He is certainly as quick and any driver out there and is a deserving WDC. I did not like his antics last season and I think he was a bit lucky not to crash out more than few times through his own fault, but every WDC needs a bit of luck just like any other sporting champion does so I am not going to hold that against him (Although you could argue that Hamilton had negative luck over his winning season even if he did get lucky in the last race).

            I think Vettel sometimes comes across big headed and arrogant but to be honest that may be partly a cultural thing as much as anything and I would rather see him over celebrating the wins than watch a Kimi style emotionless robot on the podium.

          • NJB said on 11th July 2011, 19:57

            @ David A

            My description of vettel’s wins as cheap/hollow in no way proves I ‘dislike him for the sake of it’. I have stated why I dislike it and am I am entitled to my opinion.

            Also, I don’t rate racing drivers on how ‘nice’ or ‘funny’ they are. I was a huge fan of Raikkonen for his driving style and also the fact that he never felt the need to court media sycophancy – something which vettel does at any given opportunity.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 11th July 2011, 21:27

            You are entitled to your opinion, so yes, you are entitled to dislike him. But describing his wins as cheap and hollow without anything to back that up doesn’t exactly make it look like you’re being fair on the guy does it?

          • NJB said on 12th July 2011, 1:17

            As I said, cheap/hollow by virtue of having a dominant car.

          • Mef said on 12th July 2011, 18:06

            @NJB. wise words indeed and very well put. There is a gulf in class between a driver of Alonso’s stature and Vettel. Indeed his child like persona is really starting to grate.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 16th July 2011, 22:36

            Yep, Vettel’s wins are cheap just as Jim Clark’s were cheap. Or Senna’s. Or Fangio’s. Or Schumacher, Prost, Lauda, Stewart or many other champions.

            Still nothing sufficient to disprove Vettel’s style of winning. Or even come up with any comeback for Stefanauss’s Nurburgring 07 reference.

          • NJB said on 19th July 2011, 17:15

            Some of the drivers you mention did win some pretty cheap victories when driving the best car but none of them made an entire career out of it like Vettel has.

            If you really must know my opinion on Nurburgring 2007, I far prefer to see a driver like Alonso berating a clearly inferior driver for a clumsy move that Vettel doing the crazy frog.

          • Stefanauss (@stefanauss) said on 19th July 2011, 18:42

            None of them?
            Fangio? Constantly switching to the team with the best car?
            And I’m not saying Fangio’s success was cheap, It was absolutely not. Just saying that you would say practically everything, no matter how ridicolous, to rate Vetter badly.

            And not just that, you keep to switch arguments beetween his behaviour, his driving skills, his persona, everything.
            Nurburgring 2007 was a reference about how unclassy Alonso’s celebration could get: “infuriating” and “juvenile”.

  14. JUGNU (@jugnu) said on 10th July 2011, 23:59

    Good race by Alonso but he was also helped by a very quick car possibly the quickest in race conditions. It was amazing that Hamilton in a much slower car was competing with him till the last pitstops and also passed him at one stage.

    BTW what a dismal failiure from the Mclaren team at their home GP. First they messed up Lewis Qualifying, extremely poor pitstop of Button and than short fueling Lewis Hamilton. How can you expect the drivers to challenge for victories and Podiums. Already the car is not the quickest, lost a lot of performance from the rule change and over that team is doing silly mistakes is very unacceptable performance.

    Hamilton showed in the first few laps his class and what he could do if he had a competitive car.
    It is only Hamilton who dragged that car near the podium despite all the mistakes by his team. If it wasn’t for the rain at the start, Hamilton would have definitly finsihed near P9 P10.

  15. UKfanatic (@) said on 11th July 2011, 3:55

    just like in Canada we will never know if vettel was going to get caught, but we sincerely know that today and in canada he wasnt going to win, he didnt both times but he always has an excuse

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