Rate the race: 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix
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What did you think of the Brazilian Grand Prix? Rate the race out of ten and leave a comment below:
Rate the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix out of ten
- 1 (2%)
- 2 (1%)
- 3 (7%)
- 4 (8%)
- 5 (19%)
- 6 (29%)
- 7 (21%)
- 8 (8%)
- 9 (2%)
- 10 (3%)
Total Voters: 415
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Prateek727 (@prateek727) said on 27th November 2011, 17:39
4/10
Disappointing. Just goes to show that qualifying order and extraneous circumstances are greater determinants towards the quality of ‘the show’ than track layout itself.
CeeVee (@ceevee) said on 27th November 2011, 17:45
Dull, dull, dull 4/10
I reckon BBC would be challenged to produce more than ten minutes of highlights out of that.
Kiril Varbanov (@kiril-varbanov) said on 28th November 2011, 13:47
Last race of the year, no new dev. parts, so that was expected. 5 from me, but I was anticipating some more racing from the teams that have nothing to lose.
TommyB (@tommyb89) said on 27th November 2011, 21:25
I think 4 is fair. Second worse race after Valencia, shame such a fantastic season had to end on such a bum note.
About 2 overtakes in the whole, no other action and a win that
was caused by another drivers car failure.
Also the ‘threat of rain’ is the most annoying thing ever.
Mr draw said on 28th November 2011, 12:59
Yeah, the weathermen were the rejects of the race.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 28th November 2011, 13:31
@Prateek727 I agree, totally. I think some tracks are more conducive to exciting races than others but it’s rare you can put a dull race purely down to layout. This proves that.
FullSpe3d (@dryyoshi) said on 27th November 2011, 17:40
Same as the last few races with the added spice of a team order.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 27th November 2011, 18:06
…which we didn’t hear, if there was one. Let’s not jump to conclusions.
Team orders are legal in 2011. Red Bull issued a clear one in Silverstone, why would they obfuscate it here?
raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 27th November 2011, 19:18
To be fair @keithcollantine we didn’t hear a team order in Hockenheim 2010 either.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 27th November 2011, 20:36
@raymondu999 Team orders weren’t legal then, they are now.
Anyway, this is all covered properly in a separate article:
Was Vettel’s ‘gearbox problem’ team orders in disguise?
John H (@john-h) said on 27th November 2011, 19:59
Because the drivers wouldn’t have to know if it was the truth.
Its possible they fixed the win for Mark to boost his confidence. Personally I don’t think they did, but I can see the argument.
Estesark (@estesark) said on 27th November 2011, 20:01
I don’t think Red Bull faked a gearbox problem for Vettel just to let Webber win, and there’s certainly no hard evidence of it. However, I can think of why they might have wanted to do it: because Webber is too proud a driver to accept having a win handed to him. He was very subdued after getting out of the car, which might be explained by him suspecting the team arranged for the result to happen as it did. Or at the very least, he knew he wouldn’t have won if Vettel’s car had worked properly.
Anyway, my rating is 3/10. The only real excitement was Alonso vs Button and Rosberg vs Sutil, and a race with no real battle for the lead will always get a low score from me. The DRS wasn’t particularly effective, which I was more than happy to see, but that just highlighted the underlying flaw in the cars’ designs which prevent them from following one another closely. Rain would have helped things out enormously.
I thought the BBC did a good job though, particularly on the red button forum – one of their best of the year.
hays33d (@hays33d) said on 27th November 2011, 20:30
I do think there was a team order, however I don’t see anything wrong with it. Vettel’s car was hurting, he didn’t have the pace and there is no reason to risk both cars in an incident. And it’s legal.
US commentators immediately said that Vettel should let Webber pass as soon as Webber started closing the gap.
I don’t feel the viewers got robbed. If they had raced, I believe Webber would have passed Vettel at the end of the DRS zone anyway. Instead of having complaints on team orders, everyone would instead complain of another DRS pass.
tEQUILLA sLAMMER said on 28th November 2011, 11:46
So “team orders” it was not, but it was definitely “team manipulation” of the race result, and that needs to be investigated pronto!! SV was told 5 laps into the race his gearbox had an issue, and it then went on to last another 66 laps and set some FLs!! Didnt look like he was “nursing” his transmission to me! The last “team manipulation” of a race result that caused so much fuss apart from Germany 2010 was Singapore 09, when Renoo fuelled Alonso long, and then got Piquet to bring out the SC when it most benefitted his teammate!! If team principles are now “fixing” the race order of their drivers, then whats the difference between 1 example or another? The fact is, the result order is being determined by someone on the pit-wall, not the racers!!
Tommo N7 (@tommothfc) said on 27th November 2011, 17:41
What a anti-climax. Threat of rain, McLaren’s fast in Practice, and more, but nothing interesting happened. Vettel’s gearbox problem wasn’t major, Webber got a win by default, and there didn’t seem to be much racing.
4/10
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:42
+1
natkid (@natkid) said on 27th November 2011, 19:09
i dont think there was any problem with Vettel’s gearbox, it’s just something to cover up their team order.. Vettel was consistently registering 1.16 even after “the problem” surfaced.. and Button on softs in the last few laps were only 0.01s slower than him
sonia luff (@sonia54) said on 28th November 2011, 6:29
Button was on medium tyre at the end
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:41
Average race. Rain would have been nice. Well done to Webber (even if it was gifted to him..). Gave it a 5/10. I will miss Formula 1 this winter :(.
roberttty (@roberttty) said on 27th November 2011, 17:41
decent race but Brazil has seen better races
Eggry (@eggry) said on 27th November 2011, 17:42
Generally dull race only gearbox problem of two drivers gave +1
MJ4 said on 27th November 2011, 18:01
Gearbox problem of one driver + one decently choreographed gift of a race win under the disguise of a gearbox problem.
Wooolfy said on 27th November 2011, 18:52
Exactly, I was so disappointed with RedBull but not surprised. Great final effort from Button.
MacLeod (@macleod) said on 27th November 2011, 19:03
Actually Paul deresta had also Gearbox problems
Duke (@duke) said on 27th November 2011, 19:22
RADIO:Vettel, we have very serious gear box problems.
Daniel Thomas (@iamdanthomas) said on 27th November 2011, 17:42
Nice to see Webber win, but a flat race.
2012 can’t come quickly enough now, but without a Sky subscription it might not be the same for me.
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:44
apparently you can pay just for the SKy Sports F1 channel, next year. So it might to be too expensive. But, I’m NOT certain.
FullSpe3d (@dryyoshi) said on 27th November 2011, 22:36
Or you could just watch online streams…
Alonso_McLaren said on 27th November 2011, 17:43
Ugly team order。
F1andy83 said on 27th November 2011, 17:44
I was just saying the same thing.
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:45
agreed
Duke (@duke) said on 27th November 2011, 19:32
agreed
F1fanNL (@f1fannl) said on 27th November 2011, 18:45
This really means a lot coming from an Alonso fan….
LOL.
Ell (@ell) said on 27th November 2011, 19:03
Lol agree
boundary layer (@boundary-layer) said on 27th November 2011, 19:26
I think @Alonso-McLaren just means that Red Bull didn´t need to put on that show about the gearbox. Team orders are legal and they had all the right to try and secure Webber’s WDC position.
F1andy83 said on 27th November 2011, 17:44
Really didn’t look like to me that vettel had an issue. Empty victory for webber.
F1fanNL (@f1fannl) said on 27th November 2011, 18:45
Yeah.
Because Vettel is always 5 tenths slower than Webber….
Duke (@duke) said on 27th November 2011, 19:29
Not exactly empty,with a few “possible” sponsors pre the race, now they are neatly “secured sponsors” post race..
Very Disappointed with Red Bull, the ” very serious problems” still managed to give them a 2nd.
Lewis had gear box problems too,but they never used the words very serious,and he was knocked out of the race.
JerseyF1 (@jerseyf1) said on 27th November 2011, 21:09
They did tell Lewis that there was nothing he could do about it which indicates that the seriousness wasn’t information which he needed to know.
Red Bull told Seb that short shifting in 2nd and 3rd and turning down the engine would help but they had to stress the seriousness of the problem since Seb doesn’t like to slow down.
I think some people really read too much into such unimportant details when there’s a conspiracy theory to back up.
Enigma (@enigma) said on 27th November 2011, 17:44
3/10 – a boring race. Nearly nothing interesting happened.
Scalextric (@scalextric) said on 27th November 2011, 17:44
That was the least dramatic Brazilian Grand Pix for several years. No rain. Most significant passes due to DRS. No championship implications. And did I mention no rain? Tire strategy was rather uninteresting. Some good battles lower down were not covered by TV. Oh well. Wait until next year. 6.
bosyber (@bosyber) said on 27th November 2011, 18:02
I have to agree, it wasn’t a great race. Without DRS maybe that Alonso/Button fight would have been a bit longer, the Massa/HAM fight
bosyber (@bosyber) said on 27th November 2011, 18:03
Enter too close: was a bit lackluster, seemingly Hamilton to careful or not able to do much with his car (gearbox?), Sutil did well though, and Rosberg too, even though he ended behind Sutil.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 27th November 2011, 18:03
I guess you are right. Only the Buzz of seeing Button do some really fast laps (and his fight with Alonso) seem to bring up the ratings a bit.
But the result is ok, with Webber doing everything he could to capitalize on Vettel having problems. And both Sutil and Rosberg showed some nice dicing today as well.
I am going for a 6 or 7, not completely sure yet.
David BR (@david-br) said on 27th November 2011, 18:33
3/10, a dull race made duller by being utterly insignificant and even duller by the winner being handed to the victiry – to no avail. Was Hamilton having another dire race, or was he letting Button stay ahead? Really don’t know.
Just one highlight: Alonso’s pass on Button on the outside of larajinha corner, that was genius racing.
Dull end to a season that had some great races in the first half and went seriously downhill thereafter. Really hope a team like Mercedes can do a Red Bull next year and come up with a stunning new car design, it’s all becoming extremely tedious.
adamtys (@adamtys) said on 27th November 2011, 17:45
I didn’t fall asleep, but I’ve seen better races.
Andy Redden (@andyredden-on-f1) said on 27th November 2011, 17:46
Just a boring race that demonstrated everything wrong with F1 2011, dominant team, easy DRS or completly ineffective, promised a lot, never materialised. 3/10
Tommo N7 (@tommothfc) said on 27th November 2011, 17:47
@andyredden-on-f1 Spot on.
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:47
agreed. DRS MUST GO.
Joseph94 (@joseph94) said on 27th November 2011, 17:49
or find a way to make it less effective ; eg, have the DRS over a shorter distance – say for just 200 metres.
Ell (@ell) said on 27th November 2011, 19:06
It will never work over 200 meters, it was too short this weekend. It needs to go.
pSynrg (@psynrg) said on 27th November 2011, 19:35
@anydreden-on-f1 Just about sums it up.
Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 27th November 2011, 17:49
I liked the race. It was a little bit dissapointing, as we were all expecting rain for today, but i’ve seen worse races this season!
Lin1876 (@lin1876) said on 27th November 2011, 17:50
There was racing here and there, but it was a rather dull race. A Red Bull victory was guaranteed from turn 1 as long as the rain didn’t arrive, and the result was never really in doubt throughout the field.
Shame that the races in the second half of this season haven’t been great after a strong start. I’m still not sold on DRS, although I could tolerate it here. Good for Webber winning his first race this year, and for Sauber securing 7th in the championship.
2012 will be really interesting now, so long as the coverage remains good under Sky.
jamesl91 (@jamesl91) said on 27th November 2011, 23:13
well as sky have an f1 channel for next year you would imagine its going be full of great coverage and hopefully old races re-runs
apparently although its a HD channel it will be free to all sky sports viewers which will be good.