Ferrari: 2012 “very important” for future of F1

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In the round-up: Ferrari’s Stefano Domenicali says 2012 is a “very important” year for F1 as teams face discussions over the Concorde and Resource Restriction Agreements.

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Resource Restriction Still Active, Says Domenicali (Speed)

“Clearly this is a very important year and we are all aware of that. It is equally clear that there is only one offer on the table, given that no alternative solutions were ever established.”

‘We put our faith in FIA over Bahrain GP’ (Daily Telegraph)

Domenicali: “I think we need to trust [the FIA]. Maybe the experience [of last year] will give a different approach to that and the information will be more accurate.”

Domenicali: “No one works with the team like Fernando does” (Ferrari)

“I can honestly say that, in over 20 years at Maranello, I have never seen anyone spend so much time here with the team as [Fernando Alonso] has done.”

Montezemolo at Wrooom: “Not a pretty car? It can look lousy if it?s quick!” (Ferrari)

Luca di Montezemolo: “Domenicali said the car would not be pretty? I?d like it to look lousy: I say that provocatively because I want it to be a winner.”

Lotus reactive ride height is legal (Autosport)

“The fact that the driver is not involved, and that the system is a part of the suspension, means it complies fully with the F1 regulations.”

Meanwhile in Valencia (Joe Saward)

“HRT has moved its racing team into a warehouse in the western industrial suburbs of the city of Valencia, Spain, having failed to get the local government to provide it with one of the old America?s Cup bases in the harbour area.”

Romain Grosjean: “It?s always something special to sit in a new car for the first time” (Lotus)

“The French fans have been waiting for a while to have a driver to follow in Formula 1 and now there are three of us. Grand Prix is of course a French term, so the country certainly has a lot of history within the sport! Hopefully we can help develop support for Formula 1 in France again.”

Recognition of the FIA by the IOC (FIA)

“Jean Todt, President of the FIA, will be sending a letter to the 129 national sporting club members of the FIA, inviting them to respect and share the values of the Olympic movement.”

Red Bull boss Christian Horner defends Toro Rosso sackings (BBC)

Christian Horner: “Both [Sebastien] Buemi and [Jaime] Alguersuari had the support of Red Bull to enter F1 and had been supported in Buemi’s case for three seasons and in Alguersuari’s two and a half seasons, and during that time it enables you to form a picture of how the guys are developing.”

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I’m sure Rumfresh speaks for all of us on the latest news about Robert Kubica:

Truly terrible news. This whole Kubica saga has been incredibly sad. To see such a talented driver suffer so much, it?s very hard to bear.
Rumfresh

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79 comments on Ferrari: 2012 “very important” for future of F1

  1. John H (@john-h) said on 12th January 2012, 10:41

    Article 3.15 of the F1 Technical Regulations states: “With the exception of the parts necessary for the adjustment described in Article 3.18 [the DRS], any car system, device or procedure which uses driver movement as a means of altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car is prohibited.”

    Ah… but is applying the brake pedal classed as ‘driver movement’? Does that meant that when the driver releases the brake pedal other aerodynamic characteristics of the car can be altered? The wording of the regulations, once again, is creating some grey areas from my perspective.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 12th January 2012, 12:08

      @john-h

      is applying the brake pedal classed as ‘driver movement’?

      Yes, I would say so. Otherwise the teams would all be using air brakes that are activated when the drivers hit the brake pedal.

      • DeadManWoking (@deadmanwoking) said on 12th January 2012, 13:11

        @keithcollantine

        Otherwise the teams would all be using air brakes that are activated when the drivers hit the brake pedal.

        Suggesting that air brakes are not used because of the rule against “driver movement altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car” is a bit of a red herring. Air brakes are in fact banned because they do not “remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car”.

        3.15 Aerodynamic influence :
        With the exception of the driver adjustable bodywork described in Article 3.18 (in addition to minimal parts solely associated with its actuation) and the ducts described in Article 11.4, any specific part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance :
        ‐ Must comply with the rules relating to bodywork.
        ‐ Must be rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any degree of freedom).
        ‐ Must remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car.

      • John H (@john-h) said on 12th January 2012, 13:16

        @keithcollantine

        Indeed. Some more from the autosport article:

        Instead it is reactive to brake torque and is linked directly to the suspension – so cannot be classified as a moveable aerodynamic device in the way that independent mass dampers were.

        So hitting the brakes, moves weight to the front end, which alters the suspension, which activates the device.

        I suppose the point I’m getting at is whether you can call the correlation between applying the brakes and the suspension flexing a direct one? I’m guessing not then if this device is being allowed, but hopefully you see my point.

        For example, can you have any movable body parts (i.e. a flexi-wing) that are activated only when the suspension arms move (i.e. predominantly under braking)?

        It seems like you can to me or am I missing something?

        • John H (@john-h) said on 12th January 2012, 13:26

          Ah, my bad. Seems like deadmanwoking answered my question at the same time as me writing it.

          Article 3.15 suggests the whole ‘sprung part of the car’ is being affected with the Lotus device, so should be ok.

  2. I’ve never been a big Kubica fan or got the hype but what happened to him really does sadden me. I don’t care about the measure of talent when something like this happens- it doesn’t matter or make it any more important; it’s just awful to see someone who loved racing not being able to do that and having his whole future in doubt.

  3. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 12th January 2012, 13:25

    BREAKING NEWS: HRT has moved again into an abandoned laundfry shop. The warehose owners rejected the offer from HRT of 50 bucks of rent.

  4. Christopher said on 12th January 2012, 15:52

    Wow, one dictatorial organisation approves of another. What news! :)

  5. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 12th January 2012, 20:00

    I’ve been looking into (and trying to get my head around) some of the rule changes for next year regarding car design. It somehow makes me more confident in Mercedes, as the W02 nose seems to be closer to what a 2012 nose might look like than the other 2011 cars. They also seem to have less to lose at the back end of the car regarding the EBD and indeed their rear suspension was meant to be pretty advanced.

    It’s also possible the cars could get really ugly, if they end with noses as extreme as Scarbs seems to be predicting…

    • Tom_ec1 (@tom_ec1) said on 13th January 2012, 9:26

      You may be right.

      But fortunately Craig’s illustrations so the impact of the rules, and he says that he doesn’t expect the noses actually look like that.

      My feeling is that they will probably return to their 2010 shapes i.e. slightly lower and with a V-shaped cross section.

      However, I think nose shape has minimal impact on performance compared to front wing and rear end. The secret to competitiveness probably lies under the car, out of sight somewhere.

  6. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 12th January 2012, 22:04

    Adrian Sutil has been charged with greivous bodily harm after the incident with Eric Lux at the M1NT club in Shanghai. If convicted, he faces up to one year in prison and a possible ban from entering China. Speculation suggests that this is a major deterrant to Williams signing him for the 2012 season.

  7. Definitely a big year for the Scuderia. Until the technical regulations undergo a big overhaul with regard to chassis specs and development, the latest iteration of Adrian Newey’s masterpiece will most likely still be a solid frontrunner. Not that Ferrari ever has to “prove” anything, but it appears they are more committed to the engineering threshold than the aesthetic. If Ferrari and McLaren’s MP4-27 mount a serious threat to Red Bull week in and week out from the gate, I think that will be a victory in and of itself for Ferrari.

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