Pastor Maldonado, Williams, Barcelona, 2012

Rate the race: 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

2012 Spanish Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

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  1. 10 of course

    1. Jayfreese (@)
      13th May 2012, 15:52

      Maldonado story of the day but HamiltoTn make THE pass of the day over the two Toro Rosso, isn’t it?
      Massa still disappoints Ferrari, Webber out of points, good recovery by Vettel.
      2012, keep up the good work!

      1. Yes that was to notch driving ,

      2. it certainly was the move of the race though Kobayashi’s overtakes on Button and Rosberg were brilliant too! I bet JB never saw that one coming from so far back!

        Top race overall!

      3. That was a superb overtake, but I think his one on Senna was even better.

      4. I agree ! Great overtaking, but not even a replay to spanish TV gave us… It’s always the same…

      5. I agree ! Great overtaking, but not even a replay the spanish TV gave us… It’s always the same…

    2. xeroxpt (@)
      13th May 2012, 17:08

      Since Williams dumped Hulkenberg I thought Williams would never get back up again, I thought they would just fall into paid driver circuit and into selling the team to privatees slowly killing the team, I hope that results as such as these can make Williams escape that path, a true blue collar British team and I also hope people wont forget Williams as they tend too, when I started watching F1, Williams status was for granted, I just wanted to watch the red cars win for a chance now just like millions of fans I just want to see more teams winning.

      1. This season just keeps on delivering so much variation. Congrats to Williams & Pastor, was extremely elated for them. Roll on Monaco!

        1. They didn’t show that Hamilton overtake on TV did they? Or did I miss it? Any footage?

    3. I rated it an 8. Fun to watch and lots of nice moves on track – overall quite competitive. I still think the tires are playing too big a role in the show, but hey… And I think Hamilton’s penalty was way too excessive. Had his gearbox failed, he would have only gotten a 5 spot penalty for the change. F1 really needs to get its stewardship in order and apply a little consistency and common sense.

      1. Same for the drive through of Vettel and Massa. Last year Hamilton put the fastest sector down under yellow flag and didn’t get anything.

    4. can people please stop voting 10! that is the perfect race score. come on! spain was epic but did it have side by side racing for the lead? changing weather conditions? multiple astonishing overtakes? even a title decided? no.
      voting 10 whilst still in the post-race euphoria just scews the results.

      1. came here to say this… but i think it’s new fans who haven’t seen that much yet. this was obviously not a 10 race.

        1. I rated it much lower, too many pit stops and DRS passes, apart from MAL and FER it was hard to understand who was doing well rather than looking good because of pit stop variations.

  2. Wait, what?!? Maldonado?!? Really? Did I just watch a F1 race? It wasn’t an old GP2 race?

    Im confused..

    1. On a slightly related note, 8/10 for me. Yes things happened and there were battles but as a whole it didn’t really go anywhere.

      The battle between Alonso and Maldonado fizzed out with 4/5 laps to go.

      Most of the other battles were either over in a lap or two, or were disrupted because of penalties

      1. yeah, voted it an 8/10 as well. Not a perfect classic, but a highly entertaining race with a lot of action, tension and close racing almost all the way.

        1. An 8 from me too. In the end, it was a race won on strategy rather than daring overtakes. Still highly tense viewing, but this race will be remembered as a classic not for the action, but for the result. Brilliant for F1! I really enjoyed that.

          1. Disagree. The action down the field was fantastic as well even if there were no overtakes in the battle for the lead. I espesially liked the many overtakes outside the DRS zone(special thanks to Mr. Kobayashi)

    2. Always great to see an underdog victory! The start showed that Barcelona is a rubbish track for overtaking but thank goodness for Pirelli, once the tyres went we got passing all over the place.

      The race though showed you don’t need overtaking to be exciting, the Maldonado/Alonso battle made for tense viewing. A really enjoyable race!

      1. The race though showed you don’t need overtaking to be exciting, the Maldonado/Alonso battle made for tense viewing.

        Exactly. Which is why I enjoyed the races in 2010 much more than in 2011. And I’m really enjoying this year a lot more, too!

        1. “The race though showed you don’t need overtaking to be exciting, the Maldonado/Alonso battle made for tense viewing.”

          Well, if thier’s no overtaking, all thier is, is a Maldonado/Alonso time trial race, and if that’s the case, we should all just go and watch rallying.

          1. Not at all. The tension of two drivers pushing has it’s own appeal, which I think most understand. See Imola 2005 and 2006. Turkey 2010 until Vettel took out Webber was another prime example. Spain last year with Hamilton pushing Vettel for ages.

          2. I’ll add, if all we car about is overtaking, we should all just go and watch Nascar.

          3. i dont agree with that, watching a 2 times champion battling it out all race with pretty much a rookie in a car that was so far back in the past few year infront of millions of people is great. brilliant seeing the young man hold his nerve and come out on top. its like watching an epic long drawn out 0-0 soccer game, or a 5 set tennis game, all which could be considered boring if your not that into that particular sport, but this race was pretty good for an f1 race.

          4. “Not at all. The tension of two drivers pushing has it’s own appeal, which I think most understand.”

            You may be confused as to what I wrote. I never said two driver’s pushing does’nt have any appeal.

            “See Imola 2005 and 2006.”

            I did. It was 6 years ago now. Yesterday’s news.

            ” its like watching an epic long drawn out 0-0 soccer game, or a 5 set tennis game”

            I’m unaware if you’ve ever watched something like, say, Federer and Nadal play 5 sets. They hit winners. A lot of winners. They dont just wait for the each other to hit the ball into the net or hit the ball out.
            That is vastly different from 0-0 soccer score, which really just displays a failure to be able to kick a tiny ball into a massive net for 90 minutes.
            “but this race was pretty good for an f1 race.”
            I agree, nowhere did I say it was’nt.

          5. I assume you meant then that a race needs to have at least a little overtaking then?

          6. Well, if thier’s no overtaking, all thier is, is a Maldonado/Alonso time trial race, and if that’s the case, we should all just go and watch rallying

            You don’t need on track 20 lead changes for a good race. We have Nascar for that if you’re going to dismiss everything less as a “time trial”. The tension of Alonso pushing Maldonado is exciting enough.

    3. xeroxpt (@)
      13th May 2012, 16:58

      Im still in shock, Williams, Sauber, Lotus have good cars but i never thought that Maldonado could deliver especially taking in account how tough this season has been.

  3. I gave it an 8, great fun race to watch and gripping throughout! Great job by Williams and Pastor and some great driving by several others drivers throughout the field!

    1. I think 8 seems fair but 9 for me after listening to Frank Williams interviewed. When the Rai reporter put questions to him he responded in fluent Italian.

      I love the old school British who take victory in stride and answer questions calmly in the other person’s language. The style, the man: trust the classics.

  4. 10

    Exciting race. New winner. Loads of overtaking. In the words of Murray Walker.. FANTASTIC!

  5. 9: fantastic, loads of interesting stuff going on. I liked the Ferrari-Williams battle, and seeing RedBulls and Mclarens out of position added an extra element to already interesting midfield battle.

    1. Yeah I went for 9 as well. Great to see Hamilton battling through the field considering the circumstances.
      The Maldonado/Alonso/Raikonnen battle was brilliant, loads of tension. The Schumacher incident was interesting, I actually thought Senna was in the wrong, moving in the braking zone and breaking very early, but I think others will see it differently.
      I think Button was really poor today, he had no pace whatsoever. Mclaren need to look at how his set up could have been so wrong this weekend. I’ve no idea how he managed to finish behind Hamilton.
      Overall a really interesting race, with perhaps the best part of the race was that it looked like everyone was being able to push as hard as possible, the tyres didn’t look like they were restricting anyone too much, which is how it should be.

      1. i think he moved to take the racing line, and only slightly, because schumacher was too far behind for a real pass attemp. schumachers attempt was WAY too late, he would have hit him anyway with such a late attempt, if anything it shows that schumacher is way past it, that little turn of the wheel by senna totally unbalanced schumachers mind, and he didnt know what to do in the moment and forgot to brake.

  6. 7 or 8 congrats on pastor

  7. these tyres are horrid.

    was so looking forward to watching a great fight between alonso/pastor only for the tyres to see fernando fall back & destroy a potentially great scrap.

    im on the verge of abandoning f1 after 34 years as i think drs is nothing but a silly gimmick & hate every pass i see created by it & think these tyres are nothing but a joke.

    1. Silly tires? Maldonado’s set were 3 laps older, he played it intelligently, managed his race well and beat Alonso fair and square. Alonso, one of the top drivers simply wasted his tyres early on.

      This has so little to do with Pirelli and pretty much everything to do with a skilled drive by Pastor.

      1. Exactly. Let’s not diminish Maldonado’s achievement.

        1. xeroxpt (@)
          13th May 2012, 17:02

          anyway Pole sitters and undercutting strategies have been far too important. just limit the number of pit stops or make tyres harder to heat up cause the dirty air is killing racing between equally matched cars.

      2. well said @mouse_nightshirt, Pastor pitted 3 laps earlier but managed to keep the tyres working. Surely Alonso lost a lot pushing behind him, but a fully deserved win from Maldonado today.

    2. If it weren’t for the tyres where would the strategy element come from? The DRS is there due to how much downforce you lose following another car, the problem is that they have no plans to change the car’s aero regulations to promote passing without DRS

    3. I agree 100% with this.
      I am really happy to see Pastor winning a race, and can’t be bothered with what happens to Alonso. But this Formula 1 is a very sad shadow of itself. It is shameful, really.
      I truly, honestly, can’t understand how someone, anyone, who followed Formula 1 for more than three decades, like me, can be satisfy with this spectacle.
      There were drivers swapping tyres with 6 laps. 6 LAPS!!!!! ***!!!!!! Is that some sort of joke? How can a serious driver accepts to go the track like that? It is just ridiculous. And the DRS… man, that thing needs to go, really, it is an insult to REAL racing fans.

      1. in the golden era of f1 ,the 80s, strategy was based on fuel consumption ,cars retired on the very last lap, and drivers never really pushed to the limit during the race, you follow for 3 decades but you seem to forget the very best of it…

      2. Pitting after 6 laps? So….what’s the big deal? “Oh my gosh – how terribly awful and pitiful!”. Enough whining alredy. First of all, I don’t think the rules mandated everyone start on softs and short-stint like Red Bull did. And second, Barcelona tends to place a priority on track position and in that sense, this was somewhat of a welcome site this year because passing was made fairly difficult.

        Qualifying was absolutely critical – no way that Maldonado wins that race from 3rd on the grid. And there was nothing artificial about it. No gimmick fuel or tyre tricks or anything like that – the Williams was just plain and simply the best car on the grid all weekend – just like the Mercedes in China.

        The charactersitics of the Pirelli tyre may be amplifying the effect that the track configurations and ambient temperatures this year is having, but no one can deny the fact that Williams, Sauber, and Lotus have all clawed back a a huge performance gap to the teams in front over the past few years. We’re certainly not seeing anything special from Force India, Toro Rosso, or Caterham. So let’s give credit to these three midfield teams for really taking advantge of this situation and giving us a phenemonal season.

        1. @minardi, as you say many teams have made great advances in competitiveness, I say the tyres are getting the credit not the team, the loss of off throttle exhaust downforce has made the racing much closer but the tyres are ruining the results with excessive wear and variable characteristics from minute to minute.

    4. The tyres were actually the best they’ve been all season.
      The hard tyres, unlike the softer compounds, perform more or less as they should – they go off, but not at a ridiculous rate, and allow some real racing. Hamilton managed to run a 30 lap stint at the end, and dice with Vettel for a couple of laps.
      I thought Maldonado’s performance, given his erratic driving in the past, was absolutely exceptional. He managed the last stint particularly well.

      The race itself – 9 out of 10.

      1. And after dicing with vettel Hamilton got a try at rosberg also on the final lap .

    5. the tyres can last if you do it right. Just look at Hamilton!

    6. We can blame people like you when Pirelli are forced out and we’re forced to watch processions in Spain once more.

    7. We can blame people like you when Pirelli are forced out and we’re left with processions in Spain once more.

    8. Quit whining or the sport, no matter whichever comes first I will wholeheartedly support your decision

    9. I have only been following F1 for the last decade and it certainly wasn’t exciting to see Schumy winning all the time. Vettel wouldn’t be so dominant last year with these tyres. I think that’s why Pirelly changed the tyres even further. It’s difficult to be dominant.
      In my opinion, it all became more exciting when Alonso moved upward and started winning then, when LH came into F1. Now I am simply glued and cannot miss a race.
      I give it a 8 because it was a great race. I wasn’t expecting LH to do 30 laps on a set of tyres.
      The tyres make it more exciting and unpredictable. It’s great for the sport when we don’t know if the polesitter is going to win the race. It’s simple the opposite of boring. Things change!

      1. In my opinion, it all became more exciting when Alonso moved upward and started winning then, when LH came into F1. Now I am simply glued and cannot miss a race.

        Dont think I could agree with you anymore on that. I actually stopped watching the 2002 and 2004 season midway as it had gotten so boring. If it wasn’t for Fernando in 2005, i probably would have stopped watching the sport.

        Pirrelli do come under criticism, but I do not think that I have witnessed a start to the season as we have had this year.. and a lot of that is due to pirrelli

        1. That’s what I meant. @todfod
          In my opinion, in last 10 years, F1 got more exciting when Fernando started to win and challenged Michael’s rein in 2005. Just like you say, I was also losing interest.

    10. @paul_E80 I really don’t think the tyres were such a major issue today at all. I thought that most people looked like they were pushing as hard as possible.
      Alonso had a window of opportunity when he was within 1sec for around 2-4 laps, he needed to make the pass then, similar to the Raikonnen vs Vettel situation in Bahrain. He didn’t make it, and then both his and Maldonado’s pace dropped off, which is why Raikonnen caught them so rapidly towards the end.

    11. if your going to abandon the sport after 34 years then you are a liar and havent watched it at all. tyres were worse in previous years, and races were less exciting, say in late 90s to late 2000s.

    12. I partly agree with @paul_E80’s comment. Tires are too fragile and too sensitive, and, IMO, DRS was a good work-around for aero sensitivity when they introduced it, but F1 using it as a permanent solution seems not right.

      1. They should’ve made rules to reduce aero sensitivity of the car, or give a free use of DRS for a defined period and at defined locations on the track to everybody (more like KERS)
      2. Pirelli overdid what was asked for, we went to crazy overtaking counts from nothing (as a fan I would like to see a little bit more operating window for the tires)

      But, all credits to Maldonado today. He did well with what was given to him, good for Williams and him. Hope, everyone is OK at the garage after that fire.

  8. Tom (@newdecade)
    13th May 2012, 14:48

    Exciting (from the live blogs anyway) but can someone tell where the line between exciting variability and random silliness lies…?

    1. @newdecade I think we need to go a little further before we can call it random silliness. There’s always a development race to gain the latest innovation, this year the latest innovation is “a comprehensive understanding of the tyres”, the importance of this “innovation” is even greater seeing as though the tyres are the only things connecting car with the road. You’d think that a true understanding will occur before the halfway point in the season

  9. 9. For me Hamilton’s penalty left a slight shadow, but then we got to see a great comeback drive. The winner was in doubt until the last 5 to 10 laps. A little dull in the 2nd quarter perhaps.

    1. Yep great comeback. The only driver to make a two pit stop to work.

      1. Significantly, he beat Button.

        1. I agree, so many people have criticised him for not looking after his tyres as well as Jenson, looks like he’s adapting now.

    2. It’s the only reason I didn’t give a 10 – not because I’m a Hamilton lover, but I think it would have added something to the race adding Hamilton to the mix up-front.

      1. I think it would have been enough for me if I hadn’t found myself a little bored for a brief period or if Raikkonen had got that little bit closer to mixing it up at the end.

      2. I honestly think Hamilton would have easily won this GP if he didnt get that stupid penalty and he led into the first corner!

  10. One of the tensest races I’ve seen. 9/10

  11. Good race. 7

    1. Short but sweet, and I agree. I don’t think it deserves more than a 7. The lead changed hands a couple of times, which is always nice to see, but I don’t think we’ve yet seen an overtaking move for first position this year that wasn’t either at the first corner or during a pit stop. I think it comes down to the dirty air problem, which not even DRS can always overcome. At a couple of stages Alonso was definitely faster than Maldonado, but because he couldn’t get past straight away, his tyres started to wear out more quickly and eventually he fell back into the clutches of Räikkönen, whose late charge was great. I thought it was gripping, just not particularly exciting. In fact I found the timing screen more interesting than the race itself during the last dozen laps or so.

      Well done to Maldonado and Williams though. Just how many different winners are we going to see this season? I think there’ll be at least two or three more. The title is still anyone’s for the taking.

      1. The new aerodynamic restrictions have created more even performance amongst the teams and reduced the ” dirty air” problem but the new tyres rapid wear when following in even this reduced dirty air has wiped out all the gains.
        With more durable tyres we could be seeing great fights and passes between these cars that produce similar lap times but have different strengths and weakness’ and still have a variety of winners without the tyre lottery.

    2. Ditto. Having a new winner with good old Williams is great! But I do feel a bit robbed of a splendid race.

      I mean when one of the best drivers in the field can’t have anymore than one window of opportunity to fight, it feels like the tyres are one step too far.

      Did like all those GP2-style battles from Hamilton, Kobayashi and Vettel!

  12. The starts of all of these races have been electric. Maldonado has gained some respect. I was concerned that he may make an error following some of his other endeavours (such as Australia and Bahrain) but he proved me wrong and I’m delighted to see it. Great result for him and Williams. Great passing, Lewis cutting though the field then holding on on 2 stop. 9

  13. Maldonado didn’t put a foot wrong all race. Didn’t get the best start, but his pace in the middle was great and the end was incredibly composed. Didn’t expect this, truly fantastic drive.

    Kobayashi finally displayed some of his sharp overtaking skills again and although the result wasn’t spectacular, I really enjoyed seeing Hamilton race wheel to wheel all over.

    Best race I’ve watched so far, even better than the amazing Malaysian Grand Prix, and all that at the Spanish GP. A rare 10/10.

    1. It just clicked for him. Bit like massa at turkey a few seasons ago

  14. 8.5 but rounded up to 9. some of the drs moves were too easy.

  15. Amazing Amazing! Just pure amazing. Wow i never thought Maldonado could make it to the end on those tires. Kimi for WDC!!!

    1. Lotus really squandered Kimi`s chance by doing a second stint on the option tire. When the hard tire was clearly the better choice today. In the end he finished so close to the leaders which leaves me thinking what-if.

      I would have rated the race a 10 if the Lotus drivers had been involved in the scrap for the lead.

      1. I think what blew it was not coming in as soon as Maldonado passed him – as soon as he could no longer hold him back, it was time to come in and start the long chase.

        1. Yes, he ran out of laps and his tyres still seemed ok at the end. As in Bahrain, their strategy was just a bit off being a winning one. Williams showed them how it’s done today! But the Lotuses were slow early on – I wonder if the cooler temperatures didn’t help?

  16. A big 10 for me. Yay Williams. I love this year everyone gets a win. It’s like T ball.

  17. Great action all around the field, and an amazing result. 8/10

  18. 9 – so tense! In any other season this would have been one of the best races, in this season, just another race! Brilliant.
    Best Spanish GP since 1991

  19. 10. Crazy and unpredictable, just like the whole season. I’ve massively failed in my predictions once again and I’m loving it.

  20. I might be an old cynic, but I’m not happy with the direction of where F1 is heading. The cars in the field are only separated by the tyres. It seems irrelevant who has the fastest engine, or the best aero kit, or the best strategy, it ultimately comes down to who can keep the tyres together for the longest…

    1. @dragoll

      and that is exactly what Schumacher’s argument is regarding tyres, but not everyone agrees.

    2. I do agree to an extent. I like that they do degrade, but it shouldn’t be such a tight margin

    3. Surely the engine, the aero, the strategy and most importantly, the driver’s skill all play into the longevity of the tyres. I’m not getting my hopes up but this season has the potential to be the greatest in living memory. Bring it on I say.

    4. I’d much rather this, than watch Vettel effortlessly win every race.

      1. It saddens me that the cars will now be designed around the tyres and that the drivers will have to spend more of their time managing them instead of being able to race. Motorsport should be about aerodynamics, engine power and driver ability, I watched the GP2 race on Saturday and loved the pureness of it, the raw talent of some of the young drivers. I have enjoyed this season so far but feel having to prioritise managing tyre degradation is a castration of the drivers.

        1. I agree ,I also watched the GP2 and 3 races on Saturday and Sunday

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