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53 comments on “2012 Monaco Grand Prix championship points”

  1. Consistency!

    1. Well yes in Webbers case, highlights how costly that Q2 stuff-up in Spain was.

  2. Shame, should have been Hamilton’s chance to capitalise on his supposed Monaco prowess, and then on his rivals worse qualifying. Instead he moves backwards, and Rosberg also catches.

    1. Slow pitstop again Q _ Q

      1. Was actually Ferrari’s fast pitstop combined with Alonso’s fast inlap.

    2. what monaco prowess? he wanted to be the next ayrton senna and has never got pole at monaco. in his only win there he hit the barrier and was lucky not to retire.

      1. That’s why I said ‘supposed.’ People tend to believe that he is good around Monaco, I never said it was justified.

        1. His just fine around Monaco. The Mclaren car since 2010 is better at fast turns and mediocre at slow corners like Monaco and Hungary.
          Staying with others with better car for the tracks was already good enough and shows he did a fine job.
          Let’s not forget that all the first five were a little train until the last lap.

  3. Webber is now third!! but has been on the podium only once..

    1. The difference a Win makes. If Kimi manages to win in Canada, it would get even more interesting.

      1. would love that

    2. As @Eggry says consistency! What a difference a win makes

  4. Well here is hoping that Lewis wins Canada, one of his favourite tracks, making it 7 winners out of 7 races! The points at the top will tighten up considerably as well if Lewis wins it!

    1. I think it’s about time.

      It looks like nobody will go beyond three wins this year, considering the pattern drawn by the first 6 races getting 3 wins and being consistently finishing top 4 can be worth a WDC.

      1. Sorry but MacL seem to be going backwards.

        1. I think they said before that they didn’t expect Monaco to suit them.

          1. only after qualifying. they still probably have the best car with the best downforce, so should have got much more points at this track.

          2. No, I heard it before qualifying.

          3. Monaco is about mechanical grip. Don’t get confused about the heavy downforce some engineers say that Monaco needs. They speak about two different types of downforce but it’s really confusing for the average fan to get what they are going on about.

            The Mclaren downforce comes to life in fast corners not slow like Monaco.
            The race they really lost was Barcelona where Hamilton could go well in free air. Here they never where the best car.

  5. Now Mclaren and their drivers are having to play catch up after blowing opportunities in previous races.
    To think Alonso was all but written off by Button, although the season is still long, Ferrari have maximised their potential and as their car is improved, they can be an even greater force.

    1. And look where’s Button now…

  6. Consistency also seems key lower down; Rosberg now in the top 5 and di Resta 1 Point behind Perez.

    The Championship keeps unfolding!

  7. Hamilton only driver without a win in the top 5…
    McLaren step up to the game, you’v got the car!

  8. Alonso looking like a genius! Red Bull always seems to be able to rescue something with better strategy and deserve the WCC lead. Mclaren looking like rookies!

    1. I think Ferrari is not that bad. It was awful in the first qualifying sessions of the season but their race pace has always been there and lately their not overall worse than neither McLaren, Red Bull or Mercedes.

      On McLaren, bad call after bad calls until they realize it’s too late.

      1. Ferrari is not that bad now, but it really was that bad before, not only in qualifying sessions but during the race because it’s a very complicated car to drive and far from being the fastest.

    2. +1
      Seems like RB are the only team that can show some speed also outside the cockpit. They sure got some fast thinking people around!

  9. I expect Mercedes to win Canada, iit should be their strongest circuit over one lap (as long as their tyre wear doesn’t come back to haunt them) and Hamilton in the top three, that should tighten it up a bit more.

    Vettel took full advantage of the accident, he got very lucky there .

    1. You are right about Vettel, after the safety car I was expecting that RBR would 2 stop Mark and Seb would win, maybe the threat of rain actually helped Mark by keeping everybody out on the options.

    2. I expect win or nothing attitude from Schumacher there…

      1. I expect Merc will be strong in Canada but really hope that Kimi takes his first win, considering lotus has been consistently easy on tyres and fast in straight line.

        1. it would be one of the merc driver

  10. Consistency gives Force India their double point finish. Both drivers just kept their cool.

  11. Is it not time Martin Whitmarsh got replaced at McLaren, or should he be given more time to inflict further damage?

    1. What did he do wrong?

    2. stop blaming whitmarsh, he doesnt drive the cars, he doesnt change the tyres at the pitsops, he doesnt design the car. who would you replace him with?? would anyone do any better with the personal mclaren has? whitmarsh is the best man for the job, he has been involved in the team for so long.

      1. True Withmarsh doesn’t do any of those things. But a team principal should realise a fast car alone doesn’t win races. If you don’t manage your drivers well during races, you get no result. It took him four races to realise they had to work on their pit stops.
        You don’t hope the next race will be better, you make the most of the current race.
        It aapears his mistake in Spain has made him see he has got a lot wrong. If he focuses Mclaren can still salvage their situation but it is a lot more difficult now.

  12. Anyone else get the feeling its going to come down to Alonso and Vettel?

    1. Except that Mark seems to be able to qualify better than Seb this year.

    2. @ivz – Yes, and I hope Vettel gets the triple! Alonso is showing great pace and consistency though, I think it’ll be close..

    3. @ivz – I see that happening too.

  13. Mclaren don’t seem to have the capacity to make good/smart strategic calls, a bunch of dumb fellows in there. Vettel’s move caught them napping. Ferrari’s perfect pit stops are making up for any inadequacies their car might have, plus their race pace isn’t that bad.

    1. Since Whitmarsh Mclaren is also poor on the creativity/design side as well. We seeing some great ingenuity from the likes of Mercedes and Redbull. If Whitmarsh is not to blame then who is? What will it take to turn that team around?

  14. Grosjean and Schumacher have the least number of km raced, even below backmarkers… Roughly 1000 km to maximum 1800.
    Frenchman should try to survive first lap.
    German should kick some butts in quality control department.

  15. This sums up 2012 for Schumacher. Sticks it on pole. Remains at 2 points. Ouch.

    Great to see Rosberg so high up, he’s in with a good shout still.

  16. Does anyone know if any other team will have some kind of Double DRS ready for Canada? Any reports anywhere? If not then I think Merc will blitz qually, but will be caught and passed in the race!

  17. dodge5847 (@)
    27th May 2012, 21:44

    Alonso and Hamilton are the only two drivers to be in the points in the last six races, surely that is unusual for only two drivers to do this in only the first six races.

  18. themagicofspeed (@)
    27th May 2012, 22:42

    I hope through his amazing consistency, Alonso manages to stay there. Shame the constructors is out of the question because the second Ferrari is being driven by a dead horse, rather than a prancing horse. I hope that, assuming Kubica will never return because of his injuries, Perez joins for 2013. He is fast, aggressive, fearless. BUT, he has all the hallmarks of 2005-06 era Massa: erratic, inconsistent, emotionally driven. And unfortunately, Ross Brawn, Jean Todt or Schumacher, the three key Ferrari personell who helped Felipe turn from a midfield driver who was fast but erratic when he joined in 2006, to the championship winning (i refuse to recognise Hamilton’s 2008 title as anything other than pure luck) machine he was in 2008. Sadly, the defeat in 2008 destroyed his heart and soul, and his accident in 2009 finished off his body. He is merely the shell of the driver he used to be.

    1. themagicofspeed (@)
      27th May 2012, 22:43

      i meant to say, Totd, Brawn and MSC are not there to help iron out his mistakes, something Massa benefited greatly from.

      1. dodge5847 (@)
        28th May 2012, 0:22

        I am not a Ferrari fan but I think Ferrari would benefit from having Kov in their second seat. Sure Perez is good, but if I were him, I would stay at Sauber.

  19. In terms of the racing – I stick to my previous statement, that I prefer a display of dominant excellence where 1 guy and car so comprehensively beats the other, leaving our jaws gaping. But in terms of the championship, in a reverse-logic sort of way, I find this season really interesting. You have anybody and their dog capable of winning races, and oftentimes when the car is the quickest package they will win just about easily (a la Maldonado, a la *almost* Perez). But look at the top of the table. It’s still the usual suspects. But I’m not here to talk about that. (Yes I acknowledge I’m probably in a minority)

    What has, oddly enough, in my view, distinguished the “average F1 driver” from the “good/great F1 drivers” this year has truly been what they make of the days when their car is off kilter. The fightbacks they stage, like Alonso’s dogged fight in Monaco, and Vettel making his long first stint work marvelously, at times up to 1.5s quicker than his teammate on the same, albeit fresher, tyres. Like fighting through the pack the way Lewis did in Barcelona, and the way Vettel recovered from his drivethrough in Barcelona

  20. Regarding how close it is this season, I think Gerhard Berger put it best in his interview with SkySport in Monaco.

    Top teams lost lot of time due to diffuser, top teams lots most of time as they had most developed systems. Top teams lost even more time with a new front wing regulation. Again top teams lost most time. This brings us to 2012.

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