Rate the race: 2012 Korean Grand Prix

2012 Korean Grand Prix

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Rate the 2012 Korean Grand Prix out of ten

  • 1 (4%)
  • 2 (3%)
  • 3 (9%)
  • 4 (16%)
  • 5 (25%)
  • 6 (21%)
  • 7 (13%)
  • 8 (6%)
  • 9 (2%)
  • 10 (1%)

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214 comments on Rate the race: 2012 Korean Grand Prix

  1. StefMeister (@stefmeister) said on 14th October 2012, 8:52

    I actually really enjoyed this race, Some good fights, Some close racing & a reasonable amount of overtaking.

    Wasn’t action packed but was far from been totally dull & was certainly not boring in my view.

    • F1 Fun-Attic said on 14th October 2012, 9:02

      glad you could squeeze some fun out of viewing this race. I wish I cud say the same, but a 4 for me!

  2. 5. It would have rated a bit higher if Ferrari wouldn’t have held Massa down. Yes, team orders seem logical at the Scuderia now, but Massa was taking 1 sec./lap off Alonso with 15-some laps to go and he was the only one in the top ten who actually looked able to challenge the Red Bulls. I somehow feel we’ve been deprived of a good battle for 2nd at least. With Vettel’s tyre wear issues, who knows…

    Koba’s kamikaze move on Button and Rosberg, the easiness of overtaking in the DRS zone, the astroturf run-off falling apart and the Gangam style dude being fronted everywhere by the organisers didn’t help the rating either. And I’m now sure Korea is a(nother) track we could very well do without.

    • Dizzy said on 14th October 2012, 8:54

      Massa was taking 1 sec./lap off Alonso with 15-some laps to go

      alonso was cruising to save tyres, when he started pushing again to pressure webber in the final laps he began pulling away from massa easily.

      • when he started pushing again to pressure Webber in the final laps he began pulling away from Massa easily

        At about 0.5 sec./lap and I reckon Massa’s tyres were done by that point. Massa’s overall pace was better than Alonso’s in the final stint. No question about that.

      • brny666 said on 14th October 2012, 9:37

        Why on earth would Massa be pushing after Alonso once he was told to stay put. I think he was faster but couldn’t be bothered to keep pace at the end.

    • zicasso (@zicasso) said on 14th October 2012, 8:57

      Terrible to see Massa being held behind but it makes sense. To more points Alonso scores at this stage the better.

      • so what about red bull? ‘no need to worry about webber’

        at least webber was still in for a shout for the title.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 14th October 2012, 13:37

      I like the track, watching Webber through the midsection was a joy.

      • @hohum

        The track itself is not necessarily awful but it’s among the worst tracks in the calendar, for sure. The mid sector along with turns 4,5,6 are relatively decent. Can’t say the same about the pit lane entrance / exit and sector 3. It’s simply a track without personality. Technical, flat, low downforce. A circuit that doesn’t really push to the limits / challenge neither the car or the driver.

        Still, regardless of that, I was refering more to aspects that don’t relate to the track’s design. The Korean organisers just seem to hit trouble every single year. 10 laps for the marshalls to bring a crane and remove Rosberg’s car, uninspired docking and run-off areas, astroturf shredding like an office carpet. That’s just unacceptable. Add dust and dirt all over the track, the fact that it’s set in the middle of nowhere, the poor infrastructure everyone complains about, large purposeless concrete constructions all over the place making an aesthetic bomb out of it, untrained / clueless marshalls and volunteers and general lack of enthusiasm from everyone, be it the public or those involved. It just looks bad.

        To me, along with Bahrain and India, Korea is one of those tracks that are on the calendar because they have to. Because of Bernie’s economical or political interests, not because they have that special something that gets the most out of the driver and the car, not because it looks great on screen, not because it has history or because it’s composed out of legendary sections and turns. Not even because it’s just a very good track, like Turkey was. It’s there just because it has to be there.

        That’s exactly why Korea was finished and omologated only a couple of weeks before the first GP held here, that’s why we had the flood of 2010 and that’s why the organisers are clueless year after year. They hold the GP here because they have to, not because they want to and because there’s enthusiasm regarding F1 or motorsport in general…

        I’m sorry but that’s just the feeling I get when I watch these GPs.

        • HoHum (@hohum) said on 15th October 2012, 0:03

          Rome wasn’t built in a day, it takes time to build up a following but they still have to pay FOM tens of millions of $, on TV the locale looks fine. I would rather a decent track in the boonies to a cruddy track in the center of town.

  3. The turf at the exit of turn13? was rather ridiculous. They need to sort that out.
    As for the racing though, there were a few good battles, some great tension towards the end of the race and soe good tactical battles in the pits. I was dissapointed that Button was eliminated because I thought it would be interesting to see how that strategy played out but judging by Hamilton’s tyre wear I doubt he could do a one stop.
    I was happy with the result, but the race itself probably a 6.

  4. xbx-117 (@xbx-117) said on 14th October 2012, 8:56

    I thought it started very well (minus Button and Rosberg’s unfortunate exits), but it slowly started dying down until the end where it flat-lined (I was not on edge with all the Vettel radio messages, I knew he would win and it kinda got annoying although I guess there was nothing else going on). Overall, a 6/10, not great but not completely horrible. Great moves by Hamilton kept it alive.

  5. Dizzy said on 14th October 2012, 8:59

    i gave it 7/10 as i thought it was a fairly good race which i quite enjoyed.

    the drs passes were too easy most the time but at least there wasnt a great deal of them, enjoyed some of the good racing we saw, especially through the turns 4/5/6 section where there was some really good racing.

    think the only thing which hurt the race was the tyres which ended up seeing everyone cruising for most the race to try & look after them. heard a couple radio calls where teams were telling drivers not to get too close to the car infront in order to not use the tyres too much, that certainly didnt help the racing.

  6. tkcom (@tkcom) said on 14th October 2012, 9:00

    The last time Ferrari told Massa to slow down we rated the race @ 1. This one too?

    • bosyber (@bosyber) said on 14th October 2012, 19:02

      but that was to let someone past for the lead. Yeah, disappointing, but not quite the same. And though Red Bull made sure WEB was just a bit slower for most of the race, so he wasn’t quite told to slow, just kept his distance (and “look after the tyres”) – still, he wasn’t clearly faster today, so might not have given us a fight anyway.

      Just like the rest of the race really. Could have been worse, but might have been better (actually entertaining) in some other circumstances.

  7. JPedroCQF1 (@joao-pedro-cq) said on 14th October 2012, 9:02

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…………. Oh look, there’s Sebastian leading… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ….

  8. Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 14th October 2012, 9:05

    Gave it a 7 on the sheer fact that it’s given us a great platform going into the remaining races, with the constructors and drivers championships.

    Was very disappointed to see Lewis struggling yet again, and to see Button taken out on Lap 1.

    Enjoyed the battle between Lewis and the two Torro Rosso’s at the end. And also enjoyed the Hulkenberg – Grosjean – Senna Battle.

    And finally, good to see Grosjean have a clean race.

  9. roger_e said on 14th October 2012, 9:05

    all those more casual fans that need constant action who are giving this race scores of 1-2-3 should maybe just go back to watching nascar?

    race was good enough for 7-8.

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 14th October 2012, 9:09

      +1

    • xivizmath (@xivizmath) said on 14th October 2012, 9:59

      That’s like saying “Stop looking at these clouds moving on the sky, look at that drying paint instead.”

    • RBAlonso (@rbalonso) said on 14th October 2012, 10:15

      I’ve been a F1 fanatic for 15 years and have seen highlights of every race there is media on. Read thousands of books and dedicated my life to it. On some days, you get great races hat change your view of what’s possible and, by law of averages, poor races. This was a poor race. If this race is an 8 then what was Japan 2005? Because I can tell you what most fans would rather watch. Don’t infer that some people are casual fans because they recognise this is not a great race. It makes you look like the casual fan.

      • roger_e said on 14th October 2012, 22:39

        If this race is an 8 then what was Japan 2005?

        the thing with suzuka 2005 is people remember alonso passing schumacher & kimi passing fisichella, yet forget that the rest of the race was dull.

        95% of the passing happened at the refueling stops, there wasn’t much close racing & statistically had less on-track overtaking than most other races that year (11).

        people go on about races at bahrain, singapore & korea for been dull, yet ignore the the close racing, good fights & overtaking that goes on & then simply say ‘there was no racing’.

        People here considered singapore boring, yet there was 62 on-track overtakes & some real good close racing fights for position. same for bahrain which featured 72 on-track passes & similar high levels of close on-track fights.
        Both those tracks produced more on-track overtaking than melbourne, montreal, silverstone, spa & Suzuka which fans often seem to believe produce more which is statistically more often than not incorrect.

        people moan about these modern tracks because they don’t like the fact f1 goes to there countrys, this korean track gets called dull yet all the drivers say they like it because its exciting to drive/race on & a real challenge for them & the engineer’s.
        Same with India the drivers all enjoy it & it was designed with driver/team input which is something fans often say should be done.

  10. UTBowler0407 (@utbowler0407) said on 14th October 2012, 9:08

    Looks like I’m in the minority here, but I thought it was a fairly entertaining race. Certainly not on par with Valencia this year, but there were quite a few good battles for position (Hulkenburg passing Hamilton and one of the Lotuses, Hamilton and Raikkonen, etc.). Only complaints would be the Red Bull domination, the Ferrari team orders, and the extended yellow flags in the DRS zone.

    And of course that nonsense with the astroturf was a bit annoying, but at least it didn’t have much effect in the final finishing order.

    • @utbowler0407

      that nonsense with the astroturf was a bit annoying, but at least it didn’t have much effect in the final finishing order

      I agree, but I think it was a bit more than annoying; it was actually pretty dangerous. Arguably you could say that Hamilton had a chance a catching the Torro Rosso’s but personally I don’t think much would come of it (judging by the earlier attempts).
      For a new circuit with safety undoubtably in mind whilst designing the track, this is a huge failure from the FIA in not managing the circuit organisers effectively.

  11. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 14th October 2012, 9:11

    5/10

    It wasn’t, strictly speaking, bad … it was just a shadow of what it could have been. The race was really let down by the awkward placement of Rosberg’s Mercedes and the extended yellow flag period.

    • Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 14th October 2012, 9:42

      the race was really let down by the awkward placement of Rosberg’s Mercedes and the extended yellow flag period

      Very much agreed the only overtaking zone in the circuit was yellow falged & no one could overtake that was a disadvantages for the cars who got the top speed

    • PhilEReid (@philereid) said on 14th October 2012, 11:36

      Pretty much killed Webber’s chances of passing Vettel, that could have lead to something brilliant.
      I gave this an 8, because whilst 75% of the race was processional, I’m a sucker for good on track battles, and there were plenty.

      • webbers chances of passing vettel?

        lol that gave me a giggle at least. and people complain about ferrari…..

  12. Chris (@aclasschris) said on 14th October 2012, 9:13

    The racing was mediocre, the track was filthy, the astro turf was a joke, and the race organizers still don’t have a clue. I still don’t understand why this race is even on the calendar.

    Highlight was Vettel getting hustled by that girl on the podium LOL!

  13. If you just focus all your energy on the front of the grid then yes, arguably it was processional.

    But surely you can’t justify that argument for the rest of the pack! I guess if you pay close attention to a midfield runner, like I do, then you’d have more enjoyable races. :D

    • adaptalis (@adaptalis) said on 14th October 2012, 9:42

      Difficult when they missed so many of the overtaking there. Poor coverage this week especially for the replays on the useless Driver’s Cam from T3 to T4 when the car doing the overtake has passed by then and all you see is them driving in the centre of the track instead of the racing line.

  14. Dizzy said on 14th October 2012, 9:24

    you know what i think the problem is, the crazy races earlier on where tyres & drs were creating 80+ passes (most of which were boringly easy to watch) have created unfair expectations of all races.

    2-3 years ago this race would have been rated high, yes everyone is basing races now off those races from earlier on.

    the races like valencia, montreal etc… were races the casual fans would have loved as there was constant action. i think the last few races have been great for the hardcore/long term fans amongst us who enjoy the strategy & close racing yet didnt like the artificial nature seen earlier in the season.

    as one of those more hardcore, longer term fans (been watching since the early 70s) i didn’t enjoy those earlier races as i simply detest drs & think the tyres are too artificial, so the races which features 100 passes (most of those passes i felt were boring to watch) i saw as too artificial & i disliked them as a result.
    the more recent races ive enjoyed a lot more as they have been more traditional, the racing has been more pure & the artificial nature seen earlier on has largely gone.

    this race & the last 4-5 have reminded me more of the races we saw through the 70s/80s/early 90s & as my favorite era maybe thats why ive been enjoying them.

  15. 6 thanks to midfield fun. Great drives by Hul and STRs and a pity to see Sauber waste a chance to close in on Merc.

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