Ferrari look quick as wet race prospects decrease

2012 Brazilian Grand Prix Friday practice analysis

Felipe Massa, Ferrari, Interlagos, 2012Friday practice at Interlagos for the last Grand Prix of the season took place on a scorching hot track.

We all know that is going to change as a cold front is heading to the area. But exactly when it will arrive?

Although some have been quick to regurgitate reports of a “100% chance of rain on Sunday”, these weather systems can be volatile and it’s worth exercising a little patience when watching how they develop.

A close look at the weather front heading towards Sao Paulo now indicates the heavy rain which was expected to hit the track on Sunday may arrive much sooner.

The consequences? It could hit qualifying instead – or it might arrive too late. As for race day, that may now only see occasional light showers rather than the deluge originally forecast.

Either way, the conditions teams experienced in practice today will be quite different those they race and, most likely, qualify in.

Longest stint comparison

This chart shows all the drivers’ lap times (in seconds) during their longest unbroken stint:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2012drivercolours.csv

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Sebastian Vettel 79.702 80.003 79.78 80.276 80.672 79.521 80.115 80.306 80.088 80.029 80.109 80.127
Mark Webber 80.106 80.113 79.924 79.978 80.099 80.245 80.295 81.72 80.177 79.642 79.754 79.914 80.068 80.183 80.522
Jenson Button 79.949 79.719 79.763 79.745 79.595 79.58 80.189 79.902 79.766 80.537 80.174 80.2 89.764 79.765
Lewis Hamilton 79.587 81.218 81.658 79.623 79.65 81.122 79.51 79.503 88.846 79.128 82.019 79.37 79.401 82.141 80.234
Fernando Alonso 79.929 79.959 79.553 79.599 79.525 79.948 82.92 79.582 80.635 79.826
Felipe Massa 79.981 79.332 79.193 85.321 79.342 79.033 84.111 79.235 79.841 79.75 83.468 79.461 79.715
Michael Schumacher 79.809 79.583 80.122 80.02 79.813 79.949 79.783 85.866 79.778
Nico Rosberg 81.782 80.226 82.937 79.575 79.538 86.57 82.119 79.728 79.433 79.644 82.663 79.604
Kimi Raikkonen 79.757 79.922 80.29 79.909 80.073 83.928 80.606 85.742 80.164 82.545 82.367 80.473 80.519 81.014 80.762
Romain Grosjean 79.89 80.338 80.024 88.908 79.638 79.661 79.531 79.778
Paul di Resta 79.877 79.767 80.965 79.985 80.106 79.912 80.399 79.876 80.051 80.116 79.958 79.668 82.337 79.949 79.932
Nico Hulkenberg 80 79.672 79.612 79.947 79.715 82.89 79.748 79.194 79.421 84.037 79.434 79.517 80.327 79.705 79.863 79.946 80.378
Kamui Kobayashi 80.22 80.023 80.207 80.051 80.035 87.839 80.137 80.245 80.378 81.941
Sergio Perez 80.114 80.298 80.182 80.753 85.995 80.647 80.376 81.329
Daniel Ricciardo 81.889 81.255 81.013 81.096 82.45 81.563 80.772 80.942 81.04 81.022 81.808 82.211
Jean-Eric Vergne 82.262 81.867 81.339 81.214 81.195 81.176 81.195 81.119 82.891 81.726 82.627 83.727
Pastor Maldonado 80.74 80.4 80.113 80.562 80.599 80.296 80.463 80.307 80.162 80.411 80.915 80.638 80.807
Bruno Senna 80.486 80.886 80.486 80.606 80.523 84.194 80.161 80.235 79.826 79.827 80.098 80.223 80.408 80.65 80.854 80.863
Heikki Kovalainen 80.363 80.953 81.056 81.169 80.439 80.755 80.89 80.665 80.802 82.31 81.706
Vitaly Petrov 81.166 81.215 80.797 80.571 85.408 80.561 80.819 81.486 81.461 84.768 83.357
Pedro de la Rosa 84.743 82.099 78.794 78.639
Narain Karthikeyan 78.315 78.139 82.585 78.437
Timo Glock 81.372 81.514 81.152 81.514 81.516 82.15 81.213 81.407 81.535 81.61 82.938 83.627
Charles Pic 82.872 82.071 81.673 81.976 82.004 82.577 81.909 82.416 85.481 82.127 82.229 82.303 82.294 82.698

In the high heat Ferrari, whose dislike of cool conditions was amply demonstrated in America, looked more competitive. Felipe Massa said: “The tyres are the same, but their performance is completely different to what we saw in Austin last week: definitely degradation is much higher here and so I don?t think we will see a one-stop strategy.”

Fernando Alonso, Sebastian Vettel, Interlagos, 2012As well as edging Fernando Alonso on one-lap pace Massa’s race pace looked stronger too – though the usual caveat applies that we cannot be certain what their fuel loads or set-ups were.

Nonetheless during the stint Massa was told by race engineer Rob Smedley that he’d set the quickest lap of the high-fuel runners. At the same time Lewis Hamilton was told his effort was among the best.

“We?re certainly looking strong,” said Hamilton, “but this place can be so tough on tyres that it?s hard to make any accurate predictions at this stage.”

“The track and ambient temperatures were so high today that it felt almost as though I was sliding around the track with the tyres melting. Having said that, our long runs are usually tougher on the tyres [than shorter runs], but our long runs still looked quite good today.”

Sebastian Vettel’s stint times were approximate to Alonso’s. Team mate Mark Webber ran a longer stint. His tyres seemed to go off towards the end of it, but this may be less of a concern in cooler temperatures.

Sector times and ultimate lap times

Car Driver Car Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Ultimate lap Gap Deficit to best
1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 18.880 (2) 37.971 (1) 17.170 (2) 1’14.021 0.005
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 18.851 (1) 38.118 (2) 17.331 (9) 1’14.300 0.279 0.000
3 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 18.939 (7) 38.211 (4) 17.238 (4) 1’14.388 0.367 0.165
4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 18.933 (5) 38.207 (3) 17.277 (6) 1’14.417 0.396 0.175
5 2 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 18.935 (6) 38.221 (5) 17.324 (8) 1’14.480 0.459 0.043
6 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 18.921 (4) 38.333 (6) 17.256 (5) 1’14.510 0.489 0.144
7 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 18.915 (3) 38.482 (8) 17.158 (1) 1’14.555 0.534 0.114
8 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 18.987 (8) 38.637 (12) 17.188 (3) 1’14.812 0.791 0.051
9 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 19.097 (10) 38.352 (7) 17.478 (14) 1’14.927 0.906 0.067
10 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 19.013 (9) 38.612 (11) 17.410 (11) 1’15.035 1.014 0.096
11 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 19.105 (11) 38.720 (13) 17.304 (7) 1’15.129 1.108 0.000
12 9 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 19.179 (16) 38.506 (9) 17.576 (17) 1’15.261 1.240 0.110
13 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 19.136 (13) 38.610 (10) 17.569 (16) 1’15.315 1.294 0.227
14 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 19.162 (14) 38.722 (14) 17.474 (13) 1’15.358 1.337 0.074
15 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 19.168 (15) 38.850 (15) 17.726 (20) 1’15.744 1.723 0.095
16 16 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 19.193 (18) 39.142 (18) 17.428 (12) 1’15.763 1.742 0.139
17 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 19.106 (12) 39.081 (16) 17.609 (18) 1’15.796 1.775 0.157
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 19.189 (17) 39.456 (19) 17.403 (10) 1’16.048 2.027 0.000
19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 19.279 (19) 39.092 (17) 17.693 (19) 1’16.064 2.043 0.062
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 19.356 (20) 39.601 (20) 17.535 (15) 1’16.492 2.471 0.163
21 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 19.439 (21) 39.852 (21) 17.786 (21) 1’17.077 3.056 0.000
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 19.671 (22) 39.920 (22) 18.084 (23) 1’17.675 3.654 0.000
23 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 19.682 (23) 40.254 (23) 17.924 (22) 1’17.860 3.839 0.000
24 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 19.740 (24) 40.274 (24) 18.113 (24) 1’18.127 4.106 0.000

The Ferrari drivers were exceptionally close on their sectors. Massa reckoned he had more time in hand: “On my first lap with the mediums, I lost a few tenth at the second corner, so, in terms of an outright time, I could have done even better than fourth place.”

Complete practice times

Pos Driver Car FP1 FP2 Total laps
1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’14.131 1’14.026 73
2 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’14.140 1’14.300 75
3 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’14.198 1’14.523 71
4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’14.217 1’14.863 66
5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’14.392 1’14.592 65
6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’14.716 1’14.553 66
7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’15.114 1’14.654 72
8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’16.315 1’14.669 76
9 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1’14.719 1’14.994 70
10 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’14.738 1’15.129 73
11 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1’15.015 1’15.953 84
12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1’15.050 1’15.131 72
13 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’15.255 1’15.839 74
14 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1’15.701 1’15.371 55
15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’15.396 1’15.542 67
16 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1’15.413 23
17 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1’15.432 45
18 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’15.587 1’15.902 74
19 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’16.048 1’16.048 75
20 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1’16.617 1’16.126 69
21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1’16.460 32
22 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1’16.506 1’17.675 73
23 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1’16.655 42
24 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1’17.234 1’18.127 57
25 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1’17.678 1’17.244 30
26 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1’17.895 1’18.139

Jenson Button, McLaren, Interlagos, 2012The McLaren drivers tried different set-ups with Jenson Button using a slimmer rear wing as he did at Spa-Francorchamps. This may prove ill-suited to wet conditions, and Button felt it had other drawbacks

“We were running a lower downforce set-up package to Lewis this afternoon. It was quite an interesting comparison, but, in the hot weather, lower downforce makes things trickier because the car slides more, which hurts the tyres.

“Still, it was a useful test, because we needed to see how well the smaller rear wing works. Obviously, it operates in a different way so we wanted to be able to understand that.

“Using the smaller rear wing, our long-run pace was surprisingly good. However, our single-lap pace wasn?t as strong ?ǣ probably because we weren?t able to use DRS as fully as we could with the bigger wing.”

Speed trap

# Driver Car Engine Max speed (kph) Gap
1 3 Jenson Button McLaren Mercedes 321.9
2 15 Sergio Perez Sauber Ferrari 315.9 6
3 17 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso Ferrari 315.2 6.7
4 16 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso Ferrari 314.5 7.4
5 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes Mercedes 313.4 8.5
6 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT Cosworth 313.1 8.8
7 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari Ferrari 313 8.9
8 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari Ferrari 312.7 9.2
9 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes Mercedes 312.6 9.3
10 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham Renault 312.1 9.8
11 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT Cosworth 311.8 10.1
12 11 Paul di Resta Force India Mercedes 311.5 10.4
13 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber Ferrari 311.5 10.4
14 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India Mercedes 311.3 10.6
15 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 311 10.9
16 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham Renault 311 10.9
17 9 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus Renault 309.4 12.5
18 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams Renault 309 12.9
19 19 Bruno Senna Williams Renault 308.6 13.3
20 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus Renault 308.5 13.4
21 24 Timo Glock Marussia Cosworth 308.3 13.6
22 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Renault 308.1 13.8
23 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Renault 307.6 14.3
24 25 Charles Pic Marussia Cosworth 303.3 18.6

There was a wide spread in straight-line speeds with the Red Bulls towards the bottom as usual. Button, with his low downforce rear wing, was quickest by a clear 6kph.

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54 comments on Ferrari look quick as wet race prospects decrease

  1. Eggry (@eggry) said on 23rd November 2012, 22:46

    Maybe wet qualifying is better for Alonso than the race. If Vettel ruins qualifying and Alonso qualify well, things gonna be interesting.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 23rd November 2012, 22:53

      @eggry I agree – look how well wet qualifying worked for him in Britain and Germany.

      • Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:38

        @eggry @keithcollantine Yes, this should suit Alonso – as far as his chances of getting a pole and having a less adventurous race is concerned. I mean, of course, without rain, he may have fewer surprises to worry about on sunday, having qualified at the front during a wet qualifying.

        On the other hand, I think a dry race, with its lower surprise factor, would also suit Vettel in that he himself would not have to deal with the chaos a heavy rain would provide. Thus, he could still most likely secure 2nd-4th without issues, leaving Alonso with no chance.

        On the top of this, we cannot take it guaranteed a wet Q will indeed be and advantage for Alonso this time – though it is likely it will do.

        All in all, I still think a massive chaos race with heavy rain is Alonso’s only chance – a Malaysian-like scenario. Of course, the likelihood of him getting caught in trouble would also be higher this way, but still – these are theo nly circumstances I see Vettel out of contention.

        …Or a mechanical failure. That would be cruel as it was on Schumacher in 2006 as well – twice.

    • ScuderiaVincero (@scuderiavincero) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:09

      I seriously hope for that.

    • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 24th November 2012, 5:50

      @eggry remembering, of course, that Vettel started Hockenheim in P2…

      • Eggry (@eggry) said on 24th November 2012, 5:52

        @raymondu999 of course I do! However still wet qualifying is better chance for Alonso and there would be room to spoil Vettel’s qualifying effort as well.

        • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 24th November 2012, 6:02

          @eggry I didn’t say you forgot.

          My point is – I think the Red Bull is an underrated wet car. Even with a big mistake and older tyres, Vettel was still lined up in P2.

          • Jayfreese (@) said on 24th November 2012, 12:03

            Exactly @raymondu999 (guess ur french), We could see the big mistake you’re talking about in ‘F1.com – germany onboard lap video’ and I bet Vettel lose around 1.5 second there, so he’s a massive driver in wet conditions, Monza 2008 weekend speaks for itself and himself.
            To me, the only way Alonso would win the Championship would be by an issue on Vettel’s car, anyway let’s the best wins!

          • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 24th November 2012, 17:53

            @jayfreese I’m not – but looking at my handle I can see why you guessed that in a way :P

    • F1 FunAttic said on 24th November 2012, 13:34

      May Alonso not win by some bizzare weather luck. However, may the race AND qualy be a wet-yet-raceable track and may Alonso and Ferrari win ONLY bcoz they are the best combo of driver and car in wet racing conditions.
      Better never than by luck!

  2. Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 23rd November 2012, 22:53

    This is the first time that Ferrari have actually looked good in practice since Monza. The new diffuser update has hopefully worked for them. I sincerely hope that they can fight for the win on merit alone here, again. Likewise, all Mclaren, Red Bull and Ferrari look good so if Alonso wins, there’s no guarantee that even without a misfortune, Vettel will finish in the top four.

    I know Vettel is still the favorite, but I am trying to pump some enthusiasm and interest in the build up to this race.

  3. LoreMipsumdOtmElor said on 23rd November 2012, 22:55

    Massa was on the softer compound during his longer stint, Alonso on the harder compound.

    • Eggry (@eggry) said on 23rd November 2012, 22:57

      Do you know which tyre Mclarens and Red Bulls used?

      • LoreMipsumdOtmElor said on 23rd November 2012, 23:01

        Sorry, don’t know. I just remembered Massa & Alonso. Had the practice running in the background without really watching it.

      • Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:51

        I believe only Alonso ran on hards, every other front-runner ran on softs.

        Also note that Vettel and Alonso began their stints later and that Button will most probably change his set-up, based his statements.

        Still, fuel levels leave this all in blur. I would say, based on the Korean and the Indian GP Fridays, Red Bull tends to run their cars with a bit (0.2-0.3 secs) more fuel in FPs.

        I’m also not that excited by the encouraging Ferrari tempo. I mean after rain will struck – no matter if during a session or not – it will bring with it much lower temperatures, creating Austin-like conditions. It could well screw up set-ups and change the pecking order.

  4. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:00

    Ferrari do look quick, but so do Red Bull. I have a feeling we’ll be in for an interesting race, but a dead championship fight.

    • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:06

      I partially agree. However, I believe that any exciting race with plenty of front runners could certainly build an tense championship fight, even in this scenario. For example, if the 6 leading cars are running very close within each other, I feel that the title fight will be in suspense, especially if Fred is ahead of Seb.

      • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 24th November 2012, 7:48

        I just think that the drivers who aren’t a part of the title fight – namely Hamilton – won’t care much for it if they get out front. I’m not saying Hamilton should move over and let his preferred champion elect through, but I think he’s going to value winning the race more than the championship fight.

  5. ME4ME (@me4me) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:01

    Redbull not as strong as expected. Hamilton and Massa looking fast. Should be interesting come qualifying.

  6. Adam Blocker (@blockwall2) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:11

    Is something wrong with the longest stint comparison? It says Narain Karthikeyan was fast on his longest stint. Is this a mistake, am I reading it wrong, or is it because their run was so short they were on low fuel?

  7. Hamilton’s times are nowhere in comparison to 2010 and 2011 times.

    2011
    FP1
    Mark Webber – 1:13.811
    FP2
    Lewis Hamilton – 1:13.392

    2010
    FP1
    Sebastian Vettel -1:12.328
    FP2
    Sebastian Vettel – 1:11.968

    I guess this is either due to Pirelli’s conservative tyre choice or the cars naturally becoming slower due to the rule changes.

  8. Adam Blocker (@blockwall2) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:13

    Bottas did a faster time in practice 1 than Senna did in practice 2…..interesting.

    • Estesark (@estesark) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:33

      I wouldn’t read too much into it. Maldonado was slower in P2 than P1 as well. Bottas was also doing a data collection run for the team, while Maldonado was preparing for the race. I would presume Senna was doing the same.

      I know they’re somewhat likely to be biased, but the Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat says that Bottas is already “99.99% sure” of having a seat next year. Haven’t heard that anywhere else though, so I’m taking it with a pinch of salt.

    • uan (@uan) said on 24th November 2012, 0:21

      Not that interesting–Vettel, Webber, Button, Alonso and quite a few other drivers went slower in FP2 than their own times in FP1. I

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 24th November 2012, 18:46

      @blockwall2 I guess they could potentially have more reason to want Bottas to ‘prove’ himself? Or Senna was just running race simulations.

  9. Tomsk (@tomsk) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:25

    Bring on the occasional light showers! They’re the best. Just enough rain to raise the question of an extra stop or two, and reward the skilful driver who keeps his head. I just hope our title decider isn’t run in dangerous or farcical lottery conditions, or started behind a safety car.

    Not sure what Lotus are doing – apart from maybe a rain dance. What’s the point being quick in sector two – you’ll never get past anyone there – and slow on the straights?

    • Eggry (@eggry) said on 23rd November 2012, 23:32

      According to history, Lotus has been very poor in wet. Maybe high downforce is their only way to make through. Opted for straight might be too slow in terms of lap time so it could make no difference when you can’t close to others.

  10. so if qualify on wets as the case maybe, then on race day it is dry what choice of tire are they aloud to start on???

  11. what happened at Silverstone? Remember?
    when the track was partly wet drivers knocked out some good times,
    as others waited hopping for it to clear, which it did not lost out.
    so i am getting my hopes up this time round McLaren can get it right this time.

  12. Cosmas (@cosmas) said on 24th November 2012, 8:41

    I think Ferrari’s times are more competitive than usual because of the high temperatures as Lewis mentioned. Today(Saturday) it will be 5 degrees colder and Sunday another 5 degrees minus. That is a huge difference from Friday to Sunday ~10deg. If this is the reason, FP3 will give more info about.
    About the rain chances, i think Quallify maybe see some drops but the most rain will fall in the night.

    • raymondu999 (@raymondu999) said on 24th November 2012, 8:57

      Agreed, to a degree. Ferrari of late have seemingly been less able to inject heat into their tyres which hurt them in Austin – 2 seconds off the pace per lap in the opening laps. It would be interesting to see what happens in the rain.

      Some people are convinced that the Ferrari is still a rain demon – but a part of that was because it was so brutally treating its tyres to a sauna every race.

    • caci99 (@caci99) said on 24th November 2012, 10:07

      I think that the times are closer because the track is shorter as well. With prospects of rain on Saturday night, it would not make much difference on which side of the track one will start the race. I still think Ferrari is better on wet tracks, but not that much as in the begging of the season. The heating tyre issue we saw in Austin was a one off, so I am expecting them to be as good as before in regard. But, as things are now, Vettel has apparently the greater advantage. Ferrari might put a fight, but surely they need more than that.

  13. Cosmas (@cosmas) said on 24th November 2012, 9:37

    Hulkenberg’s long stint looks very impressive , faster than the Redbulls, Button and Alonso…
    but maybe he was low on fuel .

  14. Interesting to see Lewis’ long run. He did a couple of cooldown laps and he was complaining about overheating in FP1. If the rain doesn’t come he might have some problems.

    Hulkenberg’s long run was very promising. Even Lotus and Mercedes seem to be closer to the front than in Austin. I don’t know if it is for the hot temperatures or because the top team had more fuel.

  15. I can`t understand why a lot of people seem to wish for a wet race. A wet race might very well take the excitement out of the race and title-fight completely.

    The last time we had a wet race this year Ferrari was fast, but so was Red Bull. The top team that struggled was McLaren. A lot of people seem to believe that nothing has changed since then and the pecking order will stay the same. I think the cars have changed a lot since then. At the time of the last wet race Ferrari had a problem making their tires last as long as many other teams, probably because they were generating a bit more heat in the tires than others. Todays Ferrari takes a long time generating heat into the tires, and that`s not something you wish for in cold rainy conditions.
    At the time of our last wet race Red Bull was struggling to get their tires to work especially in qualifying, but their race pace was good. Since then Red Bull has fixed this problem and is now probably the team able to get the tires working faster than anybody else on the grid. That`s a trait you would prefer on a cold, wet cirquit.

    McLarens car has changed a lot too, I`ll bet they would be competitive in wet conditions this time around too.

    I might be wrong and the rain tyres/intermediates might change the usual strenghts and weaknesses of different cars completely. But if this doesn`t happen then both Red Bull, McLaren and even some other teams might make their tires work much earlier than Ferrari. Then it might be over before it`s even begun.

    I much prefer a dry race to the end, let the best man and team win it..

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