Vettel set to surpass Alonso as most successful active driver

2013 Belgian Grand Prix stats and facts

Fernando Alonso, Sebastian Vettel, Spa-Francorchamps, 2013With his latest victory in the Belgian Grand Prix Sebastian Vettel is poised to become the most successful driver on the grid in terms of race wins.

Vettel’s fifth win of the season has moved him within one victory of Fernando Alonso’s tally of 32 wins. The Ferrari driver has won twice so far this year.

Here’s how many races the five most successful drivers in F1 today have won so far:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2013drivercolours.csv

Race 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889
Jenson Button 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 4 5 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15
Kimi Raikkonen 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 11 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 19 19 19 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
Fernando Alonso 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 9 9 10 10 10 11 12 13 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 16 16 16 17 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 20 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 23 23 23 24 25 25 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 28 28 28 28 28 28 29 29 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 31 31 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
Lewis Hamilton 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 12 13 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 18 19 19 20 20 20 20 20 20 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 22 22
Sebastian Vettel 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 9 10 11 12 12 13 14 15 15 16 16 16 16 17 18 19 19 20 21 21 21 21 21 21 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 23 24 25 26 26 26 26 26 27 27 28 28 28 29 29 30 30 31

Vettel’s 31st career win puts him level with Nigel Mansell on the all-time victories chart.

This was Vettel’s first lights-to-flag victory of the season, and the eighth of his career. He also became the fifth driver in F1 history to spend more than 2,000 laps in the lead, joining Michael Schumacher (who heads the chart with a massive 5,111), Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost and Mansell.

Vettel also took the fastest lap, the 19th of his career, putting him level with Senna, Stirling Moss and Damon Hill.

The only thing standing between Vettel and a perfect result was Lewis Hamilton’s pole position lap. This was Hamilton’s fourth in a row and seventh consecutive front row start – both personal bests.

Raikkonen’s record run comes to an end

Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, Spa-Francorchamps, 2013After a record 27 consecutive races in the points you wouldn’t have bet against Kimi Raikkonen adding to it on a track where he’s won four times in the past.

But his streak was ended by something as humble as a visor tear-off, which was ingested by one of his brake ducts, causing overheating and retirement.

Raikkonen had finished his previous 38 starts (including eight with Ferrari at the end of 2009) which is also a record. He was three short of Nick Heidfeld’s record for consecutive race classifications.

Paul di Resta equalled his best ever starting position with fifth, which he also achieved in Bahrain. Di Resta qualified fourth in Italy last year but had a five-place grid penalty.

Pastor Maldonado, Max Chilton and Esteban Gutierrez collected their third penalties of the year while Sergio Perez took his first. There are eight drivers left on the grid who haven’t had a penalty this year.

For the first time this year Lotus set the fastest lap of the weekend – Raikkonen’s 1’48.296 in Q2. However qualifying was disrupted by wet weather and it’s likely Mercedes or Red Bull would have lapped quicker in dry conditions than the times seen last year, even with the greater restrictions on DRS use this season.

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115 comments on Vettel set to surpass Alonso as most successful active driver

  1. the_sigman (@sigman1998) said on 26th August 2013, 10:46

    Vettel has won at least 5 races for 4 consecutive seasons, putting him level with Ayrton Senna (1988-1991) and one behind Michael Schumacher (2000-2004)

  2. Joshua Mesh (@joshua-mesh) said on 26th August 2013, 10:52

    I’m so bored of the RBR and Vettel pair now. We need Bernie to change the show up a bit.

    • Lucas Wilson (@full-throttle-f1) said on 26th August 2013, 10:54

      I’ve heard that Bernie is considering banning anyone who goes under the name “Adrian Newey”

    • Chris (@tophercheese21) said on 26th August 2013, 11:27

      I never thought i’d actually say this but,

      I want to see if Vettel and RBR can break the Schumacher/Ferrari records.
      It’s not exactly Red Bull’s fault that they’re romping the competition. It shouldn’t be up to Bernie or the FIA to give other teams a chance, they should do it by stepping up to the plate and trying to better them (not an easy task).

      I dont like seeing Vettel (or anyone, except Hamilton) cruise to easy victories, because the once hopeful battle for the most important position (1st) is done after the first few laps, and viewership strikingly decreases.

      The same with the Schumacher/Ferrari pairing, F1 viewership was at an all time low. But when you look back at the statistics, it looks incredible.

      • iFelix (@ifelix) said on 26th August 2013, 12:19

        I don’t want to downplay Michael’s achievement, but I think what Red Bull is doing is tougher than the run of Ferrari in 2000-2004. They were challenged only in 2003 by McLaren and Williams. All other seasons they simply trounced the competition. The only season that Red Bull had such a crushing advantage was 2011, but even there McLaren took a couple of wins on merit. Also while Michael had also great rivals like Mika and Kimi (and Villeneuve/Hill before they faded), Seb is facing at least 3 top drivers at the top of their game, not forgetting Webber and Rosberg.

        • “I don’t want to downplay Michael’s achievement, but I think what Red Bull is doing is tougher than the run of Ferrari in 2000-2004. They were challenged only in 2003 by McLaren and Williams. All other seasons they simply trounced the competition.”

          Sure, in 2003 they had cars that would have won championships in Schumacher’s hands, Schumacher had a bad start to the season, for the first time in his career he had some legitimately bad races, yet he still came through and was clearly the driver of the season. Wasn’t even close.

          And are you forgetting 2000? Ferrari was inferior to the McLaren, two of the greats at their peaks each fighting for a third world championship.

          Schumacher never had a car advantage until 2001. When he finally was given the best car on the grid he proceeded to smash every season record. Then he gets the best car again in 2002 and proceeds to smash the records he set in 2001. Then does the same in 2004.

          Also, what people gloss over is that Schumacher left championships on the table by switching to a basket case Ferrari team at the end of 1995. Despite having far inferior machinery, he goes to the last race of the season in 97 and 98 (where he stalls on the grid through no fault of his own). He most likely wins that race too if he starts on pole considering he was able to get back up to third before going out with a puncture. 1999 he would have won the championship if not for breaking his leg and missing 6 of 16 races.

          So those “easy championships” of 2001, 2002 and 2004 (I only consider 2002 and 2004 as “easy”) were owed to him in a way. He deserved to have the best car on the grid after all those years of fighting for championships with inferior machinery. And when he was given the best car on the grid he rewrote all the record books.

          And please this era is strong but not nearly as strong as people make out. Alonso couldn’t beat Hamilton in the same car. Hamilton got outscored by Button over three seasons. Raikkonen got beat by Massa in 2 out of 3 seasons.

          • all very good points.

            BUT PLEASE will people stop calling the ferrari a basket case in 95!! can people go back and re watch the season! the 95 ferrari was quick! not very reliable but fast! Alesi led many many races.

            To say the ferrari was a dog is a joke. it was slower in the year before Prost went there and alonso. Both times them 2 drivers fought for the title in their first season.

          • alexferrari said on 26th August 2013, 17:53

            And Mika was incredibly fast. His only problem was making mistakes when NOT under pressure. On the other hand, under pressure, he was better than Schumacher and Kimi, for instance. Absolutely cold.
            In a championship like we have this year, with all the competitiveness, Mika would be up there, for sure.

          • anon said on 27th August 2013, 9:04

            “all very good points.

            BUT PLEASE will people stop calling the ferrari a basket case in 95!! can people go back and re watch the season! the 95 ferrari was quick! not very reliable but fast! Alesi led many many races.

            To say the ferrari was a dog is a joke. it was slower in the year before Prost went there and alonso. Both times them 2 drivers fought for the title in their first season.”

            What? The Ferrari was worse in 2009 and 1989 than 1995? That’s absolutely absurd. Talk about revising history.

            And for the record the 95 Ferrari was a better car than the 96 one.

          • iFelix (@ifelix) said on 27th August 2013, 17:55

            @anon
            I want empahsise again that I didn’t mean to downplay Michael’s achievements in anyway. There is a reason that he sitting on top of every record book and I wasn’t indicating that it was all to machinery either.

            What I was trying to say was that competitive environment was less fierce to create a dominant driver-car package. The most important factors were no resource restriction and no test constraints, so esp. Michael who notoriously got sick in simulator could really trim the car to his liking. As a result only one other team (McLaren plus Williams in 2002) were competing with Ferrari from 1998-2004 until the rise of Renault/Alonso.

          • anon said on 28th August 2013, 2:41

            What I was trying to say was that competitive environment was less fierce to create a dominant driver-car package. The most important factors were no resource restriction and no test constraints, so esp. Michael who notoriously got sick in simulator could really trim the car to his liking. As a result only one other team (McLaren plus Williams in 2002) were competing with Ferrari from 1998-2004 until the rise of Renault/Alonso.

            All teams had no resource restrictions and few test constraints. In 2004 Toyota had the biggest budget in F1. McLaren, Ferrari, Williams were all up there. Williams had BMW dedicated to their engines. I could be wrong but BAR threw huge money at their cars and had a win and some podiums for all their years of effort. It was a very competitive environment with teams spending more money than they do today.

            At the end of the day, Schumacher only had the best car on the grid in 2001, 2002 and 2004.

      • Jason (@jason12) said on 26th August 2013, 19:02

        @tophercheese21

        It shouldn’t be up to Bernie or the FIA to give other teams a chance

        But Bernie is the one who gave this gift to RBR back in 2009, by deliberately turning F1 on it’s head and favouring aero.

        • Mads (@mads) said on 26th August 2013, 19:39

          @jason12
          First of all, Bernie does the commercial stuff. He doesn’t control the technical regulations. Secondly, aero didn’t become more important. The teams just had to start over with it. No one knew red bull would be so good at it.

    • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 26th August 2013, 11:39

      +100. Their dominance is to an extent on par with Schumachers-Ferraris. Certainly in 2011, maybe also this year.

      • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 26th August 2013, 11:44

        I mean Vettel _is_ good, really good. I think he is (heard before on this blog) sort of on “Raikkonen-level”. In a little lesser car he would good enough for a single title. But that RedBull really helps him, there’s no argument against that. Hamilton is faster on a single lap, and Alonso is more complete. Raikkonen on the other hand is more calm than Vet. But he(Vet) is closing, have impressed me this season, and I’m certainly not a fan. =)

        • Lucas Wilson (@full-throttle-f1) said on 26th August 2013, 11:52

          I think he is on Kimi level. I think if he didn’t have the help by RB he would only be a 1 WDC.

        • Lance (@lancelot) said on 26th August 2013, 12:03

          A driver who botches up qualifying can’t be “complete” by definition.
          In that regard, Vettel and Hamilton are the most complete drivers on the grid: both are amazing in qualifying and race. By the way, there is no evidence whatsoever that Hamilton is faster than Vettel on a single lap. His car is faster, that’s for sure. I think they’re equally talented and pretty evenly matched.

          • dkpioe said on 26th August 2013, 12:40

            Vettel is more consistent then Hamilton in races. there has been too many races in the past 2-3 years where Hamilton ruined his tyres and race strategy by driving too fast for the strategy to work, plus he has crashed out far more times then vettel over the years. Vettel is almost always perfect during the race, a metronome. Alonso is a more complete race driver then Hamilton too. I place Hamilton equal 3rd with Raikonnen.

          • @lancelot
            Just like there is no evidence that Hamilton is faster than vettel , there is no evidence that Alonso is a poor qualifier… when he had faster cars he has qualified well… and it is nt like he is getting beaten by Massa(who is the only other guy driving the same car)…

          • @puneethvb well would you argue that Massa is a good qualifier then? I wouldn’t, so he’s not really a great baseline. However, both Webber and Rosberg are good qualifiers and so their respective teammates fairly consistently beating them is a pretty affirmative sign.

          • Massa qualy has been just fine with other team mates. Who were the clearly rubbish michael schumacher and Kimi.

            If only massa had good team mates to compare him too…His team mates have together had 10 world titles. Only Damon off the top of my head can get near that in terms of competitive team mates in recent years.

            by the way Fernando was about half a minute head of massa again. Obviously Alonso is under performing again.

          • Well, Schumacher isn’t really a spectacular qualifying (he’s a bit like Alonso in that respect) and Räikkönen is good yes, but no Vettel or Hamilton. Also, he was prett off-canter in 2008 and Schumacher was maybe starting to show the first signs of slowing down a bit in 2006. Then there’s Massa’s crash, after which he’s never really been himself.

          • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 26th August 2013, 21:06

            @ Max;

            wasn’t Raikkonen _the_ qualifying ace of 2005-2006(his last years with Mclaren)?? Alonso was the reliable one, and Kimi the flying finn, during Alonsos WC-winning years.

            Remember his Monaco lap in 2005, with that MP4-20? =))

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 26th August 2013, 23:23

            @Q85

            Massa qualy has been just fine with other team mates. Who were the clearly rubbish michael schumacher and Kimi.

            Schumacher 14-4 Massa.

        • alexferrari said on 26th August 2013, 17:58

          For me Vettel is the mix of Hamilton and Alonso. That’s why I want him at Ferrari asap. And I have the impression he is smarter out of the track, working with the engineers. F1 is not only about raw speed. Prost beat Senna fair in both 88/89, who would say that? Although Senna is regarded as a better driver.

          • Matija said on 26th August 2013, 19:32

            also, vettel has the best personality of all the drivers on the grid, even though many think completely the opposite. he’s always ready to make fun of himself, always ready to be selfcritical, never up his own a$# nor full of ****. only thing annoying about him is his signature finger which looks completely unnatural and I would beat him with a stick to punish him for it

    • What precisely do you think Bernie can or should do? Unlike the early 2000’s, the current rules are already designed to try to prevent any one driver or team from repeatedly winning. Short of announcing that “Henceforth the drivers will line up on the starting grid in order of their surnames, with Alonso first and Vettel and Webber last”, it’s hard to know what more the FIA can do.

      As for claims that we are in a period of Red Bull dominance comparable to that of Schumacher/Ferrari, consider this: in just the 17 race 2002 season, the Ferrari’s finished 1-2 nine times. In the 69 GP’s from the start of 2010 to the present, the Red Bull’s have finished 1-2 nine times.

      • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 26th August 2013, 21:19

        I lolled when I read the first few sentences. Thank you!

        • @ Vettel1

          I would nt say Massa is a great qualifier though he is nt as bad a qualifier as people try to portray.. he did pretty well against Kimi, who was considered a qualifying king in his Mclaren days … I never said Alonso is the best qualifier out there, I said he is by no means a poor qualifier.. Hamilton did have a slight qualifying edge over Alonso when they were team mates in 2007 .. Vettel could very well have a small advantage over Alonso though we can never be sure unless they drive the same car…

  3. andae23 (@andae23) said on 26th August 2013, 11:13

    This is what I noticed:

    – Lewis Hamilton and Vettel shared the front row for the 19th. For the Briton, this was his seventh consecutive front row start. Of all the drivers on the current grid only Vettel has managed to do this: fourteen consecutive front rows between 2010-2011 and nine consecutive later on in 2011.

    – After VET-RAI-GRO, VET-ALO-HAM becomes the second repeat podium of 2013, as the same podium also occurred at the Canadian Grand Prix. Like in Canada, the crowd were booing during the podium scene, though in Belgium that had a completely different reason…

    – Sebastian Vettel now leads the championship by 46 points – the largest gap since the 2011 season.

    – Sergio Perez finished eleventh for the twelfth time in his 48-GP career, without ever finishing twelfth.

    – Max Chilton has finished the first eleven Grands Prix of his career. The only other drivers to have achieved this are Tiago Monteiro (first sixteen GPs) and Lewis Hamilton (first fifteen GPs).

    – Kimi Raikkonen ended his streak of 27 Grands Prix in the points. This also means that no driver has completed every lap this season. Lewis Hamilton comes closest, with all but one laps completed.

    – Romain Grosjean finished eighth in a race for the first time since the 2008 GP2 season.

    – With no rain and safety cars, this was the shortest Belgian Grand Prix since the 2008 edition.

    – Still no points for the rookies…

    – A bit random, but still: the only Ferrari driver to have qualified on the front row was Felipe Massa in Malaysia.

  4. OOliver said on 26th August 2013, 11:14

    Are penalties received due to gearbox and engine changes classified in the same category as driving penalties?

  5. Ben73 (@ben73) said on 26th August 2013, 11:31

    Does anyone know the number of consecutive Q3 appearances Lewis Hamilton is on now, I think the last time he missed out was Malaysia 2010, but I am not sure.

  6. TMF (@tmf42) said on 26th August 2013, 11:43

    Imo, F1 is currently at its best and hasn’t been this competitive since the 80’s. we got 5 WDCs competing and car performances are extremely close. Although this year it’s not a very exciting championship – in the grand scheme of things it couldn’t get much better than this.

    • Wilhelm (@wilhelm) said on 27th August 2013, 20:14

      @tmf42 It’s refreshing to hear something positive being said for the sake of it. Thank you for making us appreciating what we have. Having followed Formula 1 for more than 20 years, there are some things I missed from the 90’s, mostly due to it being linked to childhood memories, but those current years are the best in my books, whatever how far from perfect they are. Let’s wait for Monza then!

  7. sumedh said on 26th August 2013, 11:55

    This was the first time that Red Bull were the fastest car in terms of top speed.

    • According to which data?
      Official FIA data puts Webber and Vettel second and third at the speed trap, with Massa first. So not there.

      Now the speed trap (not far after the Raidillon) isn’t the place where they get top speed. The end of the Kemmel straight is, which coincides more or less with intermediate 1 if I’m right.
      Official FIA speed data at I1 puts Webber at #12 (316km/h) and Vettel at #18 (314km/h). Sutil is #1 at 322, with the Williams’s and Ferrari’s following suit at 320.

    • Lance (@lancelot) said on 26th August 2013, 12:06

      They weren’t. Don’t look at the speed trap. Look at S1 speed. Red Bull were somewhere in the middle with Mercedes and Lotus. Ferrari were one of the fastest cars on the straight.

  8. Quick Nick (@tasvat001) said on 26th August 2013, 11:57

    Alonso has broken his trend of been hit in the first lap at Spa.This has happened to him at the last 4 Belgian GP.2009-caught out in the whole grosjean,hamilton,button incident which he eventaully had to retire at his first pit stop.2010-T-boned by barichello,2011,hit by ricciardo(both incidents,miracle he was able to carry on and obviously last year.

  9. vaidas (@vecho) said on 26th August 2013, 12:27

    Vettel may be the most successful but Alonso is the most spectacular. It may be not Vettels fault because he most of the time drives the fastest car but still that doesn’t change my opinion

    • To be frank, i dont think Vettels awesome stats change many opinions. People will still always rate Ham/Alonso as better drivers, because they’ve proven themselves against highly regarded teammates, and in poor cars.

      Peole will always rate Senna/Fangio above Schumacher, despite his records.

      If F1 was a pure driver contest, then stats would mean more, but as this sport is very very equiptment-heavy, stats will mean little.

      • David-A (@david-a) said on 27th August 2013, 17:23

        Not really. The team bosses by the way, said Vettel was the best in 2 of the last 4 years, and 2nd best in the other 2 years, behind Alonso, never third, and never behind Hamilton.

        Vettel has proven himself in poor cars- that’s where his career started.

        The only person (other than each other, for one year, in which they both blew the title to Raikkonen) that LH/FA have had that is as good as or better than Webber, is Button.

      • I don’t recall Alonso ever “proving himself” against a “highly regarded teammate”. Unless losing out to Hamilton while LH was in his rookie season counts as “proving himself”.

  10. matt90 (@matt90) said on 26th August 2013, 12:28

    Vettel set to surpass Alonso as most successful active driver

    I think he did that last year by winning a third championship.

    • DC (@dc) said on 26th August 2013, 12:36

      It depends on if you measure it by WDCs or number of wins.

      • I measure by win percentage. He’s far, far ahead of Alonso in that regard.

        About twice as many poles as Alonso too despite just over half as many race weekends. Staggering statistic.

        3 championships to 2 as well.

        • Those stats would only hold any relevence if they’d have enjoyed the exact same level of machinery for the exact same amount of time. Otherwise its a series of pointless numbers.

          • anon said on 27th August 2013, 9:32

            The best drivers invariably find themselves in the best team. Plus the best drivers have a good tenth or two over the rest of the field. The Red Bull was only a dominant car in 2011. The rest was the difference Vettel makes.

            Vettel’s first full season he has a Toro Rosso and was incredible. Finished ahead of Hamilton in Brazil, wins Monza.

            2009 (his second full season) Vettel probably wins the championship if Red Bull started the season with a double diffuser and her didn’t retire 5 times. To me he got close to the maximum out the car.

            2010 the Ferrari and McLaren were on par with Red Bull. Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Webber weren’t good enough. The driver in his third full season showed them how to drive supremely under pressure. They all cracked, except the guy with the least amount of experience.

            2011 Red Bull was a great car. Had a car advantage and extracted the maximum. Webber could only win one race such was Vettel’s dominance.

            2012 McLaren was fastest but McLaren made errors and the car had reliability problems. Ferrari was strong from Barcelona onwards and had bulletproof reliability. Incredible car reliability and luck kept Alonso in the championship more than anything, not “great driving”. Still, Alonso had every chance to win the championship but cracked under the pressure. Couldn’t make Vettel pay when he started at the back of the grid in Abu Dhabi, allowed Massa to outqualify him in the last two races. Not crack in qualifying and he would have won the championship.

            Hamilton at McLaren has had cars capable of winning the championship in 2007, 08, 10, 12. You could even make a case for the McLaren being good enough in 2011. The McLaren was good enough to win 6/17 races. Alonso at Ferrari has had cars capable of winning the championship in 2010, 2012 and now 2013.

    • Jelle van der Meer (@jelle-van-der-meer) said on 26th August 2013, 12:43

      +1 that is in all driver’s view the key stat for being successful, next one is # of wins.

      Alonso is leading in wins, podiums, FLAP, points and races, Vettel leads in championships and Poles. Vettel obviously leads in all the per race stats.

      Wins: Alonso 32 versus Vettel 31
      Poles: Vettel 39 versus Alonso 31
      FLAP: Alonso 20 versus Vettel 19
      Podium: Alonso 92 versus Vettel 54
      Races: Alonso 209 versus Vettel 112
      Points: Alonso 1,515 versus Vettel 1,251

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 26th August 2013, 13:25

      @matt90 Which is why I wrote “in terms of race wins”.

  11. Bruno (@brunes) said on 26th August 2013, 12:46

    I wonder who is the driver with the most wins without a drivers championship
    RB, DC, FM?

  12. French Steve (@french-steve) said on 26th August 2013, 14:51

    Since he is a Ferrari driver, Fernando Alonso did at least one podium on EVERY track/GP.

  13. mantresx (@mantresx) said on 26th August 2013, 16:43

    After a record 27 consecutive races in the points you wouldn’t have bet against Kimi Raikkonen adding to it on a track where he’s won four times in the past.

    The funny thing is that I did! It was 6/1 odds and I thought that if Fernando ended his run of points in this track then Kimi would as well hehe.

  14. Vettel and Hamilton both recorded their 54th podium appearance, moving them into a tie with Lauda for tenth on the all time podium winners list.

    Vettel and Hamilton both recorded their 56th front row start, moving them into a tie with Mansell for sixth on the all time front row starters list.

  15. juergen (@juergen) said on 26th August 2013, 17:35

    What a boring first place race. When I saw the RBR car surpassing Hamilton like it was nothing I thought:”Unless he has an accident he will not loose” then I went back to sleep. Special mention to Fernando Alonso: He fought his way to the top brilliantly.

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