2013 Japanese Grand Prix team radio transcript

2013 Japanese Grand Prix

Romain Grosjean, Lotus, Suzuka, 2013The Japanese Grand Prix provided a fascinating strategic battle between Red Bull and Lotus, and there was much more going on as well.

Messages during the race revealed Ferrari’s unsuccessful attempt to order Felipe Massa to let Fernando Alonso pass him.

Several drivers collected penalties during the race including Daniel Ricciardo, who was furious about being penalised for going off the track while passing Adrian Sutil.

At the front of the field the battle for the lead eventually resolved itself with Sebastian Vettel using his pace advantage to pass Romain Grosjean using a three-stop strategy, while Mark Webber pitted three times on his way to second, after taking a critical few laps longer to pass the Lotus.

Here’s how the Japanese Grand Prix unfolded in the team radio messages that were broadcast during the race.

2013 Japanese Grand Prix team radio transcript

Lap* From To Message
PR Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg 15 minutes to go
PR Francesco Nenci Esteban Gutierrez 10 minutes
PR Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean OK can we have pit lane speed limiter off please. For the formation lap start we’re going to have two static bite point and second gear KERS release. All your procedures. And before the start we do two rolling bite points and then four burnouts. Just keep it short and leave enough time in between.
PR Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg So remember step [distorted] as soon as the blankets are off. And then there will be recovery ten at one point during the formation lap, per call, and also to go backeventually. Everything else as per programme.
PR Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton For your information Nico’s laps to the grid he found it initially on the nose so he took one degree of front wing out, then thought it went a bit too much to understeer balance, but the tyres weren’t in the working window, and that will help the issue a bit. I think we saw on our own laps we’re happy with takinganother half-a-turn off.
PR Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington So has he kept a full hole out, yeah?
PR Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Negative, he’d come back up, he’s put the hole back in.
PR Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington They overall take two holes out like we did?
PR Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton They’ve made their standard race adjust which is more than us, obviously they’ve taken more than three, three-and-a-half holes.
PR Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington We’re two-and-a-half holes down.
PR Unknown Lewis Hamilton To Bono and Lewis, I’m just butting in here. Nico’s actiually six-and-a-half turns down from his end of qualifying run. But we are seeing that those top turns don’t really do a great deal. We are three-and-a-half turns down, which is two-and-a-half turns in balance because obviously the front’s lower with this weight on it. We are two-and-a-half turns down on aero balance, three-and-a-half absolute.
PR Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington Let’s take another half a hole out as we discussed and I’ll come down on my diff.
PR Simon Rennie Mark Webber For your info track temperature is starting to drop a little already. It’s now three degrees cooler than P2 but it is going to get a bit lower, OK? And as usual we’ll assume everyone’s on [medium], I’ll tell you if anyone of interest is on [hards].
PR Paul Davison Jules Bianchi Back to P1 for a couple of seconds andthen P2 again.
PR Simon Rennie Mark Webber Everybody on [mediums] apart from Ricciardo in P16 and Pic at the back. Normal procedure once we’ve fired up, want to go KERS seven, eight, seven. And then when we put you on the ground with 30 seconds to go there’ll be one static bite point. You’ll need to be hard on the brakes.
FL Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Warm up tyres and brakes, learn all gears.
FL Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Reminder: We’ve going to be doing two burnouts out of turn 11. So keep working those tyres and getting some energy in the brakes. Rear brakes are still cold.
FL Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo All the gears are synchronised.
FL Juan Pablo Ramirez Giedo van der Garde Cool engine from exit hairpin. So you can get 70% throttle but stay as much high gears and low rev please.
FL Unknown Sebastian Vettel All systems are good so usual reminders it’s bite point learn and one burn-out. We need good clutch prep so straight to your box, focus on KERS at the start and KERS eight when you stop.
FL Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton You’re going to stop in your box, steering straight, brake balance for turn one. You’re going to a bite point find then you’re going to do neutral, then RS modes, and you can hold overtake to keep temps down.
1 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Check the front, potential front wing damage, you have to have a look. Front left.
1 Jules Bianchi Paul Davison Bianchi was hit by Van der Garde at the first corner and both retired.
OK I’m out.
1 Paul Davison Jules Bianchi No reply broadcast.
Are you OK, mate?
1 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel At the moment from data and visually it looks OK. Stay out.
2 Tim Wright Charles Pic Pic had been given a drive-through penalty before the race even started and served it on the first lap of the race.
Box this lap, Charles. Drive through the pit lane this lap. Toggle down.
2 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Hamilton had to pit with a right-rear puncture on the first lap following contact with Vettel at the start.
Right-rear puncture. We’re going to be switching to the [hard] tyre for a long stint. We’re going to go down one-and-a-half turns
3 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Lead pack are in 130R at the moment.
4 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Just controlling those rear temperatures, 16.5
4 Gary Gannon Max Chilton Temps are on target. You can look after the front in turn one under the yellow.
4 Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil Rear tyre temperature high. Track is clear turn one.
4 Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington What happened?
4 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton We’re going to have to review the data, we’ll get back to you.
4 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Yellow, yellow. We are going to lap 19 so target lap 19.
4 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Yellow flags were re-deployed at turn one while the Bianchi/Van der Garde crash was cleared.
Gone yellow again in turn one so DRS is disabled again.
5 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Track clear.
5 Tim Wright Charles Pic Track is clear. Use the race KERS pattern not the qualifying pattern.
6 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Alonso was immediately pressuring Massa to pass him after the DRS zone was enabled.
Fernando should have the DRS.
6 Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington How bad is my pace? Car doesn’t feel right.
6 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Looks like we’re missing some aero performance so looks like we’re about a second down.
6 Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington Yeah, the car’s all over the place.
6 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Brake balance one click forwards.
6 Tim Wright Charles Pic You are 16 seconds behind Chilton but you are nearly two seconds a lap quicker at the moment.
6 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel From an early stage Vettel began saving his tyresso he could attack later on.
You’re currently plus four to Rosberg. It’s worth dropping back to save your tyres. Two second gap is good.
7 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Target five at the end of this lap. Continue trying to get a gap to Massa, gap is 1.5 at the moment.
7 Romain Grosjean Ayao Komatsu There’s too much rear.
7 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean OK, copy that.
7 Simon Rennie Mark Webber We need to start looking after the rear tyres. If you cannot pass Grosjean, make a two second gap, we’ll close it up closer to the pit stops.
7 Tim Wright Charles Pic We need to use the race KERS pattern. Turn 11 25%, turn 14 50%, turn 18 25%.
8 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa This was a coded message telling Massa to let Alonso past. It was repeated the second time with very clear enunciation. But Massa didn’t obey and it took until lap 20 for Alonso to find a way past his team mate.
Multifunction strategy A. Multifunction strategy A. Now, please.
8 Dave Robson Jenson Button Box this lap.
8 Jenson Button Dave Robson Box this lap, up one turn.
9 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton The garage is clear so you can pull straight into the garage. The guys will guide you in.
9 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Like Pic, Rosberg appeared to be not using the ideal KERS deployment pattern for the race.
You are in your Safety Car window and do not boost out of turn seven, not in the race schedule, not good.
9 Lewis Hamilton Peter Bonnington Hamilton pulled into the pits to retire due to the damage sustained at the start.
Sorry guys.
9 Peter Bonnington Lewis Hamilton Not your fault Lewis, looks like you got tagged by Vettel’s front wing.
9 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean Your lap time is good. Target plus minus zero.
10 Mark Temple Sergio Perez How are the tyres and balance?
10 Sergio Perez Mark Temple At the moment it’s OK. I am starting to lose the rears. But at the moment it’s OK. I think we stick to plam.
10 Mark Temple Sergio Perez OK, understood Checo. We’ll monitor the cars that have pitted behind. We may decide to swap to Plan B but at the moment we’re still on Plan A.
10 Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil Maldonado pitted and came out ahead of Sutil.
You’ll be racing Maldonado.
10 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Engine 21.
11 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg No reply broadcast.
Nico I go minus three clicks for [hard], OK?
11 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg We’re thinking of going Plan B at the moment.
11 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross [Distorted] I need to know what to do.
11 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg This interesting coded message was heard more than once during the race.
So target three, important to pull the gap to Massa, currently 1.8 seconds. So Nico if you’re feeling comfortable like some hoagie 25s, just to help on fuel.
12 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Box, Mark.
12 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Box this lap, please Kimi. Clutch 11. It will be tight with Button on the exit.
12 Simon Rennie Mark Webber You’ll be close to Ricciardo at pit exit.
12 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Button’s behind you.
12 Sergio Perez Mark Temple OK, box.
12 Mark Temple Sergio Perez And let’s give it everything, let’s really push on the in-lap.
13 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Grosjean is in this lap.
13 Dave Robson Jenson Button Racing Checo at the exit.
13 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Gaps are safe. Start to look after the rear tyres now.
14 Sergio Perez Mark Temple Rosberg left the pits in front of Perez who had to avoid the Mercedes. Rosberg later got a penalty.
What happened with that Mercedes?
14 Mark Temple Sergio Perez I don’t know Checo, we have spoken to the FIA.
14 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Could race Alonso out of the pits… OK, he’s behind.
14 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Alright Sebastian keep going, good job. That’s extending your window, that’s very helpful, good job.
14 Mark Webber Simon Rennie What’s the multi, mate?
14 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Toggle KERS, multi two.
15 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Rear tyres worn down to 40% at the end of that stint.
15 Paul di Resta GianPiero Lambiase The front’s locking.
15 GianPiero Lambiase Paul di Resta KERS three and rearward brake balance if you need to, Paul.
15 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Look for the two-second gap again.
16 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Obviously Sebastian, Grosjean and Webber got the undercut, they’re still ahead of you. But you’re creeping up on them, OK. It’s all working to plan. Good job.
16 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Let me know the pace, please.
16 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel 37.7.
16 Gary Gannon Max Chilton Max two and try diff mid seven.
16 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg We need you to box this lap for a drive-through.
16 Mark Temple Sergio Perez Rosberg has been given a drive-through for the pit exit. Let’s keep going, make sure we get to our target lap. Use the same plan as we did in the last stint.
17 Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil How is the car, Adrian?
17 Adrian Sutil Brad Joyce Understeer in the high speed.
17 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa As you saw, so, Rosberg got a drive through so we are in sixth position.
17 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel You’re -3 Webber, Webber 38.1, Grosjean 38.1. So you can just sit there for a while.
18 Francesco Nenci Esteban Gutierrez Ricciardo in front with [hard tyres] might make a train.
18 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel You’re currently +12 Ricciardo. He hasn’t stopped yet. Next car back is Hulkenberg right behind him.
20 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach Censored by FOM. Hulkenberg was feeling pressure from Alonso while also trying to pass Ricciardo who hadn’t pitted yet.
**** he’s quick on the straight. Same **** as last year.
20 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Nico our position is not in danger. Keep calm, keep racing.
20 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Situation is Ricciardo has not stopped yet, he is holding up P4 backwards to you.
20 Francesco Nenci Esteban Gutierrez Push for the Ferraris. Watch Raikkonen behind.
21 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Target five at the end of this lap. Use the tyres for target five.
21 Daniel Ricciardo Marco Matassa Should I box this lap?
21 Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo One more lap Daniel.
22 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Rosberg passed Button on lap 22.
Important to get past Jenson. Push the tyres to do that, if we need to stop earlier it’s not a problem.
22 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Box, Jev.
23 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Multi three and engine 22. Press the reverse button once and toggle KERS.
23 Jenson Button Dave Robson Got a lot of vibration again but it’s not from the front ’cause I haven’t locked these tyres up. It must be coming from the rears.
23 Dave Robson Jenson Button OK, understood.
23 Jonathan Eddollls Valtteri Bottas Give me feedback on the tyres and do you want front wing adjustment next stint? Same tyre.
23 Valtteri Bottas Jonathan Eddollls Same flap. How many more laps?
23 Jonathan Eddollls Valtteri Bottas Copy front wing. Target seven more laps,
24 Jenson Button Dave Robson Really struggling. Got a bit more front end in the car now but no rear. Still lot of understeerbut nor rear.
24 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross Too much understeer in the car. Plus point four.
24 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Copy. Try torque five for understeer.
25 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg You’re doing well. They’re opening on the rear.
25 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach How many laps to target?
25 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Eight or nine Nico.
25 Jenson Button Dave Robson Is it strategy A or B? I’m busy but let me know.
25 Dave Robson Jenson Button This is going to have to be B.
25 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Excitingly, for the second weekend in a row the word “bananas” appears in the radio discussion.
This is good pace, don’t go bananas, Mark is right behind Grosjean now so his pace will calm down. Watch out for Pic.
25 Dave Robson Jenson Button Need to watch the rears in turn seven.
26 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Webber is told to pit unless Grosjean comes in.
Box, Mark, opposite Grosjean.
26 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Grosjean 37.9. Close the gap progressively. Default 17.
26 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Still no management at the moment. Rear temperatures are 15, that’s the only thing we need to be careful with, they’re 15 at the moment, still under control.
27 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean Mix three and Webber just pitted, he’s converting to three stop.
27 Romain Grosjean Ayao Komatsu OK.
27 Mark Temple Sergio Perez There is a lot of traffic behind still so pitting early will not help at the moment so let’s make sure threse tyres are good at the end of the stint, or if you can, get past Gutierrez if he struggles more.
27 Sergio Perez Mark Temple What do you think on the [hard] tyres? I don’t like it too much.
27 Mark Temple Sergio Perez OK Checo understood. Which tyre we fit will depend on how many laps to go. At the moment we’re still on Plan A. Let’s see when we have to make the stop.
27 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Close the gap progressively. We’re not racing Mark, we’re racing Grosjean.
27 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean We are on target, look after rears
28 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Ricciardo is the next car in front. He is on [hard] tyres.
28 Andrew Murdoch Pastor Maldonado Keep pushing like this.
28 Felipe Massa Rob Smedley The rears start to go away.
28 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Understood.
29 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Put pressure on Grosjean.
29 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Confirm -3 for [hard] but we stay out.
29 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach Yeah getting quite understeery as well. Maximum -2.
29 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Copy Nico -2, looks good, we stay out.
29 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Rear tyre temperatures completely under control.
30 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean Box, Romain.
30 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel As with Webber earlier, Vettel is told not to follow Grosjean in.
Opposite to Grosjean now, this lap.
30 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Grosjean has just pitted, you are clear.
30 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Diff entry five,
30 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach How many laps are left?
30 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg 23. We need to push quick before Alonso.
31 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Good job, Sebastian. Same plan as the previous stint. Margin behind. We goes as far as we can.
32 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen It’ll be tight with Ricciardo on the exit.
32 Mark Temple Sergio Perez We did 18 laps on the last set of tyres, let’s try and close up on Gutierrez ahead, make sure we’ve got tyres that are in a good condition at the end of the race.
32 Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil There’s still some three-stoppers left that have got stops to make. We’re still in this race so look after those and get them to the end of the race.
33 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Kimi’s out of the pits and four seconds behind. Start managing the tyres now. If we are going to get to the end it’s 21 more laps.
33 Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo Ricciardo went off on the outside of 130R while passing Sutil on lap 26, which he was penalised for.
Drive-through, Daniel, drive-through penalty this lap.
33 Daniel Ricciardo Marco Matassa Why?
33 Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo Overtake on Force India.
34 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Default map 12.
34 Mark Temple Sergio Perez Last tyre set had some damage to the rear-left. Let’s look after the tyres in turn one, two and twelve.
34 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Massa was also given a drive-through penalty for speeding in the pits, which caused a moment of confusion at Lotus.
Massa has a drive-through penalty.
34 Kimi Raikkonen Mark Slade Why do I have a drive-through?
34 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Massa! Massa has a penalty. Massa.
35 Tim Wright Charles Pic You are doing the same lap time as Chilton. He is on new [hards].
35 Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean Your pace is good so look after rears. We are just monitoring the gap.
35 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross You need to take one tear-off off my visor at the stop.
35 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Which side, Nico.
35 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross Left side.
36 Tim Wright Charles Pic Charles you can push.
36 Simon Rennie Mark Webber It’s not all over yet. Keep pushing mate, we’ve got some chances to come yet.
36 Gary Gannon Max Chilton One more lap to the blues. Make sure the blue is very clean, let them through and don’t lose any time.
36 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross OK don’t worry I managed to remove it. Forget about it.
37 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach He’s not going to push, maybe I should take some speed out?
37 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg OK Nico copy. Behind Alonso there’s Kimi charging so maybe it’s OK to keep the pace like it is.
37 Jean-Eric Vergne Phil Charles Push two.
37 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Understood Jev. Gutierrez behind you will have DRS this lap. Think about KERS.
37 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Push hard now just to get that gap, pit stop window.
37 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Box, torque map one and box.
38 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Perez on the new hard, same as you, and he stopped two laps after us.
38 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel That’s Grosjean in front of you. Go and get him.
38 Mark Temple Sergio Perez There are three cars in front who have much older tyres than ours, they are Rosberg, Jenson and Vergne. Rosberg could pit soon, we might be racing him out of the pits. We definitely expect two more cars to have to pit before the end.
39 Mark Temple Sergio Perez In front of Massa is Vergne who is struggling a lot on his [medium] tyres. Could be an opportunity to get Massa as well as him.
39 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Target one.
39 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Alonso closing around a tenth a lap. 18 laps to go.
39 Gary Gannon Max Chilton Blue flag Alonso and Raikkonen, let them through as easily as you can, don’t lose any time.
39 Gary Gannon Max Chilton Perfect.
40 Simon Rennie Mark Webber This is good stuff, mate, keep it going.
40 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Pick up the pace a little bit now, please. Rosberg in front of you willstop again so at the minute he’s putting enough of a pit stop window so pick up the pace and we can make sure he pits behind us.
40 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Vettel returns to the track following his last pit stop.
Towards the end of the race you’ll come under pressure from Mark. So make sure you’ve got some tyres left.
40 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg We don’t need you to push on the out-lap, you’ll come out ahead of Ricciardo. So just managing the temperatures for the first few laps.
41 Jenson Button Dave Robson Some information please, Dave.
41 Dave Robson Jenson Button We are still Plan B and we are box this lap.
41 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Good job Sebastian. It’s all about having enough tyres until the end.
41 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Mark has to stop again and he’ll close up the gap after that. Save your tyres.
42 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa As I said, exit chicane pull later to get a full throttle. Very, very gentle to get to full throttle.
42 Mark Webber Simon Rennie Webber is on a three-stop strategy and was catching slower cars as he neared his final pit stop.
Lots of traffic coming up ahead, mate.
42 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Yes mate we are looking at it.
42 Mark Temple Sergio Perez Massa in front has been told to look after his rear tyres. There may be an opportunity to overtake him. We’re currently P9. Let’s see if we canget some more places before the end.
42 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Box, Mark, box this lap.
43 Tim Wright Charles Pic Charles your pace is good. You are seven seconds behind Chilton. He is lapping 39.4 last lap.
43 GianPiero Lambiase Paul di Resta Di Resta briefly had a hold on tenth place but it wouldn’t last.
Button has pitted and passed Adrian so expect Jenson behind. You’ll be racing Jenson. Expecting Ricciardo to pit very soon.
44 Sergio Perez Mark Temple Perez and Rosberg made contact at the chicane, leaving Perez with a puncture.
I think I have a puncture,
44 Nico Rosberg Tony Ross Check my front wing.
44 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Copy.
44 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Webber pitted and came out behind Vettel and Grosjean.
Obviously Mark has to pass Grosjean still.
45 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Vettel was held up by Perez while lapping the McLaren.
Tell him to get out of the way [distorted].
46 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Try to save just one of the lights from exit hairpin so you have one at the chicane. Anyway this is very good just keep him behind.
46 Simon Rennie Mark Webber To use KERS on the exit of the chicane only use 25 KERS early to get full KERS exit 17.
46 Jenson Button Dave Robson How far is ninth ahead?
46 Dave Robson Jenson Button Jenson that is Massa it’s nine seconds.
47 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Good effort, I’ll give you an update in a second.
47 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg At the end of this lap we have seven laps remaining. Gutierrez you are over a second a lap quicker than him, he is five seconds up the road. And we need Hoagie 25s.
47 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel After a delay, more of Vettel’s messages about Perez were played on the pit wall feed.
Understood.
47 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Perez getting blues.
47 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Get out of the way! I’m losing time.
47 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Understood. Calm down, he’s still getting blues.
47 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Charlie, get him out of the way. That is not fair.
47 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Thank you, thanks for that.
47 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Mark is still behind Grosjean. The cars ahead are fighting for position.
48 Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Reminder to use the overtake button if you need it.
48 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Di Resta was about three-tenths quicker, he is fighting with Button, Button has stopped the third time and he’s put on a new medium so he’s fighting with Button. Di Resta a little bit quicker but should be no problem as there are six laps to go now.
49 Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Release six.
49 Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach Having held Alonso back for several laps Hulkenberg was passed by the Ferrari and later Raikkonen too.
Oh man, Marco, we’re talking about seven places again today.
49 Simon Rennie Mark Webber Webber continued to press Grosjean for second and eventually passed the Lotus on the penultimate lap.
Concentrate on getting a good exit from the chicane.
49 Jonathan Eddollls Valtteri Bottas Behind Vergne is the race-leader Vettel.
49 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne You’re getting blue flags for Vettel behind you, you have to let him go. Try and follow him through on Bottas.
50 Jenson Button Dave Robson How many laps?
50 Dave Robson Jenson Button Five more laps to go.
50 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa He’s five seconds behind now and at the end of this lap it’ll be four laps to go.
50 Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Important to get past Gutierrez now, critical on fuel.
51 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa Four seconds behind, he’s got Chilton in front of him.
51 Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Jev you can catch Sutil and overtake him, he’s very slow, come on, there’s only a couple of laps left, come on.
52 Rob Smedley Felipe Massa KERS magnettino position plus one for more power. Press the ED, we will have to defend for these next three laps his top speed is not very good.
52 Romain Grosjean Ayao Komatsu Censored by FOM. Webber passed Grosjean as the pair lapped Perez and Bottas.
**** blue flags!
53 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Last lap. Webber’s last lap: 36.2.
53 Dave Robson Jenson Button Jenson, great job with Massa. Car in front is Pic, traffic.
VL Christian Horner Sebastian Vettel What a drive, Seb, great job! You managed that fantastically well, brilliant drive.
VL Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Awesome, mate, awesome.
VL Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Censored by FOM.
****, boys! Ichiban! Yes, boys! Unbelievable. You stayed there, patient, great job. Thanks a lot for bringing the car back. Unbelievable. You’re the best team in the world. Thanks very much guys, I love you. Yes! Ichiban
VL Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel Just so you know Alonso finished P4, 45 seconds back. That was a very good race, mate, very patient. Better deg, better pit stop, better pace. And then you had to pass for the lead. That’s beautiful.
VL Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Good day at the office I’d say. Thanks guys. Great job, great strategy. We managed that well. Yes! I’m so proud.
VL Simon Rennie Mark Webber Nice job today, very good job. We were pretty marginal on wear which is why we switched. I think we’d have been very tight to do a two, which is why we switched mate.
VL Christian Horner Mark Webber That’s a very good drive, Mark, that’s a very good drive. Unfortunately we lost too much time behind Grosjean in the end there. But it’s a really good drive, well done.
VL Eric Boullier Romain Grosjean Brilliant drive Romain, wow!
VL Romain Grosjean Ayao Komatsu Fantastic race guys.
VL Ayao Komatsu Romain Grosjean Brilliant Romain, nice job. Let’s remember you were the only one to challenge Red Bull today so great job.
VL Mark Slade Kimi Raikkonen Well done Kimi, another fantastic race. Just superb. Thank you very much again.
VL Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Good job Nico, thank you. They had in front again quicker cars. That’s a decent result, thank you Nico.
VL Nico Hulkenberg Marco Schupbach Yeah that was it, couldn’t hold these guys at the end. The tyres were just giving up too much. But the car felt very good today. Thank you.
VL Marco Schupbach Nico Hulkenberg Copy, Nico. Behind you Esteban scored another point so he’s P7. Vettel won, Webber, Grosjean, Alonso, Kimi, yourself, Esteban, Rosberg, Jenson, Massa. Good result for the team, thanks a lot. Save fuel, remember end of race procedure.
VL Francesco Nenci Esteban Gutierrez Good job, Esteban.
VL Esteban Gutierrez Francesco Nenci Thank you guys, good job.
VL Tony Ross Nico Rosberg Pull over, Nico, and find a fire post. Right-hand side so just turn the engine off, find a fire post, should be end of the pit lane.
VL Dave Robson Jenson Button Nice job, I know that’s not quite what we hoped for but after a little tricky start that’s a really good race, some great overtaking at the end. So another couple of points and another classy drive, well done mate.
VL Jenson Button Dave Robson Yeah I’m sorry about the first stint I don’t know what was going on there I couldn’t find any grip out there. The front lock-up hurt me quite a bit. Good job finding me pace, guys. Sorry about that but I personally don’t think we were going to do much better than ninth anyway. Good fun in the end, that’s the important thing, couple of points.
VL Dave Robson Jenson Button Yeah absolutely I agree. I think, yeah, that’s a pretty good recovery from the first stint. Plan B actually worked not too bad in the end. Three good moves there on a track where it’s not easy to overtake. Good job, good few points well earned.
VL Jenson Button Dave Robson Cheers. Did a Sauber finish in front of us?
VL Dave Robson Jenson Button Yep both Saubers finished in front of us Jenson so it’s a Red Bull one-two, Vettel winning the race.
VL Jenson Button Dave Robson Did they have good pace, the Saubers, or did the strategy just work?
VL Dave Robson Jenson Button They had good pace, similar pace to us.
VL GianPiero Lambiase Paul di Resta Hard luck, Paul. P11. We’ll look into the first round of stops, obviously the second stint behind Bottas cost us in terms of race time. Whether it would have saved us a point or not we’ll have to look a bit closer. Hard luck.
VL Paul di Resta GianPiero Lambiase Yeah, and also our start needs to be better, we lost too many places. But the car was much better obviously last stint. But no tyres to keep Jenson behind, absolutely no way.
VL GianPiero Lambiase Paul di Resta Copy that, Paul. We obviously went for an aggressive second stop in order to jump the Williams but I think in the end it’s all gone a little bit too early and we’ve run out of tyres. Hard luck, I think that’s where it is at the moment.
VL Phil Charles Jean-Eric Vergne Hard luck, yesterday was a real unlucky thing for you. Recovery one. We’re P12. Daniel P13, he had a drive-through.
VL Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo Ricciardo was very unhappy about his penalty.
P13 Daniel. Hard luck today but very good performance. I’m proud of you, well done today, very good job.
VL Daniel Ricciardo Marco Matassa Understood. Where would we have ended without the drive-through?
VL Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo Between P8 and P10.
VL Daniel Ricciardo Marco Matassa Just to clarify, before I go off and kill somebody, was it for the move in turn 15 on the outside of Sutil or Di Resta?
VL Marco Matassa Daniel Ricciardo Yes, Daniel.
VL Daniel Ricciardo Marco Matassa That’s unbelievable. Alright, understood.
VL Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil Unlucky Adrian, P14.
VL Adrian Sutil Brad Joyce The race pace was just not there today. We have to work on that a bit more.
VL Brad Joyce Adrian Sutil Copy that Adrian.

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175 comments on 2013 Japanese Grand Prix team radio transcript

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  1. Bosley (@bosley) said on 17th October 2013, 12:39

    looks like Jenson is a bit wary of the Saubers pace, maybe he thinks that they can catch McLaren by the end of the year?

    • spoutnik (@spoutnik) said on 17th October 2013, 13:46

      @bosley noticed it too. But if we average the points both teams earn by race since the Sauber Monza performance, with four races left, McLaren(4.5/race) would still be in 5th position with 101 points and Sauber(9.5/race) could maybe pass Force India(0.25/race) and end at the 6th position with 76 points. So let’s see in 2014 :)

  2. FOM seem to have become much more willingly to broadcast censored messages – it’s still not ideal, but it’s progress: we’re no longer missing out on as much of the juicy content!

  3. Why do I not understand radio messages? – Raikkonen, haha!

    Before I go off and kill somebody – Ricciardo, wow it’ll boil at Red Bull next year!

  4. Sphinx (@sphinx) said on 17th October 2013, 12:49

    JB to Robson ‘Is it strategy A or B? I’m busy but let me know.’

    Classic :)

  5. Rambler said on 17th October 2013, 12:50

    The amount of typos on this site in the articles have increased dramatically…

    • GeeMac (@geemac) said on 17th October 2013, 13:38

      In my job (I’m a lawyer) I spend my time looking though very thoroughly, looking at them in incredibly pedantic levels of detail. As a result I often spot typos in books, magazines and on the internet. When I spot one, I just move on because it really isn’t the end of the world. Even if our documents, the cornerstones of multi billion dollar transactions, have typos in them it isn’t the end of the world. The world isn’t going to implode because Keith wrote “and bother retired” instead of “and both retired”.

      Take this article and the other articles on this site for what they are: fantastic resources and fantastic summaries of current events in the sport.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th October 2013, 15:33

      Naturally I never want to publish anything that has a mistake of any kind in it. But this is a 5,547 word article and it’s always going to be tricky to weed out every error in that much copy. I’m always happy to correct mistakes and have amended the two typos above. Of course it is much easier for me to do this when people point out what the mistake is, rather than just complain there’s a mistake without saying what it is and where.

      • Hi Keith, terrific article, and IMO the odd typo/grammar mistake is a part of life. To complain about them (without helping to correct them) is pretty petty and pointless, and a failure to understand the process of ‘passionate’ digital communication, where access to specialised information with the greatest of speed is more important than anal levels of spell/grammar checks. Along with the many, many others who enjoyed your article, you have my gratitide ;-0) (of course, gratitude ;-0)

  6. kcarrey (@kcarrey) said on 17th October 2013, 12:57

    Multifunction strategy ALONSO

  7. TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 13:02

    I’m amazed by the amount of people who thought (and still believe) Vettel requested team orders regarding Webber, considering how clear it who he was talking about.

    • Loup Garou (@loup-garou) said on 17th October 2013, 13:55

      Everyone knows very clearly that Vettel meant Perez, not the least because Webber was still behind Grosjean and nowhere near Vettel at the time. But a lot of them prefer to spread the rumour that Vettel as talking about Webber knowing full well that it wourld be taken-up and spread further with glee by the like-minded.

      • TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 14:05

        @loup-garou You may be right. In the time I’ve been posting on forums about F1 (about two months or so) I’m constantly amazed by the amount of misinformation that is spread around.

        Like that Pirelli changed the tyres because Red Bull asked them to. I’ve read at least fifty times, not exaggerating. Or that the FIA favors Red Bull, even after all the regulations change especially made to ban some of RB’s advantages. It’s uncanny.

        Either some (a lot of) people don’t follow F1 at all, or they really need to make up reasons to dislike Vettel/Red Bull.

        • thorpedo (@thorpedo) said on 17th October 2013, 16:06

          I would agree with you if people would stop blaming Schumacher for everything he did. Even reading Keiths description of a driver made me feel sick (The first half of the 2000s in Formula 1 was the story of total dominance by Ferrari and Schumacher – whether in terms of driving brilliance, technical innovation, reliability – or politics; But late in the season a controversial change in the rules forced Michelin – rival to Ferrari’s tyre supplier Bridgestone – to change the construction of their tyres. After that decision Ferrari won the next eight races in a row, and Schumacher collected title number six.) I just wonder if same kind of statements will be written after Vettel clinches this title.

      • I think he meant Webber. Perez would have got blue flags why would he moan about someone he would lap.

      • Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 18th October 2013, 23:32

        Ooor, they indeed misunderstood it. Like me. I don’t like Vettel, true, but I’d never do the thing you wrote deliberately. Nevermind.

    • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 19th October 2013, 15:05

      @silence @loup-garou @keithcollantine @atticus-2 @ialtair Even if Vettel was regarding Perez, who was on new tyres and was matching his pace, it was hardly necessary. At that point he had the win gift wrapped and topped with shaved almonds and a cherry, so to effectively throw a tantrum wasn’t necessary. I genuinely believe that because of the rather leisurely way Vettel normally wins races, he hasn’t developed the kind of mental rigidity needed for actually fighting for a win; take Canada 2011 as a case in point. Would Button have flipped out like that? No. Alonso? No. Hamilton? No. Raikkonen? Definitely no. Do any of those drivers engineers actually have to give their driver therapy if things don’t go to plan, like Rocky does. I wonder if Rocky is available to do a spot of counselling, it’s not been a good week…

      Regarding the race as a whole, I think there was certainly a split strategy going on to cover both eventualities. Now when I try to suggest that Red Bull favoured Vettel by putting him on what was on paper the better strategy, you will roll your eyes, but let me inject some cold, hard, cynicism; Vettel is their superstar and Webber is disillusioned by everything that F1 is at the moment, so who do you think they were going to favour. I don’t even think that is cynical, that is just realistic. Red Bull quite rightly woke up on Sunday in Japan with the intention of winning the race, not giving the guy who is leaving a nice send off present, and although there is plenty of genius going around at Red Bull, it doesn’t take a genius to work out that by giving their best driver the best strategy, they are in with the best chance of winning the race.

      However, this is where I throw a double six. Did Webber really need to pit that final time? With a 14 second lead at the time of his pit-in, and with less than ten laps to go, I genuinely believe Webber could have held out for the win. Webber’s second stint wasn’t as fast as it was meant to be, and I think Webber was under some illusion that he was going to the end and was saving tyres. And even if Vettel did catch Webber, the worst he would’ve finished was second. Red Bull aren’t stupid, they remember Malaysia. They didn’t want a desperately defending Webber coming together with an over-aggressive Vettel in the final laps, and to make sure that neither cars ended up in the fence, they removed Webber from Vettel’s path to victory. I don’t blame them for doing it, do you think Webber would’ve shown quarter? Would a broken steering arm on the #1 car weigh all that heavily on the Australian’s conscience?

      • iAltair (@ialtair) said on 20th October 2013, 8:37

        Blue flags are blue flags. Vettel is already very patient with FIA not waving the blue flags. In fact, the blue flags were super late and the race leaders have the rights to call it.

        And regarding Webber’s pit strategy, he has to pit. The way he uses his tyres won’t last him to the finish line.

        As above, I would like to add on that you are just basically not crediting Vettel’s win and blaming Redbull once against for pulling Webber out for a gifted win.

      • iAltair (@ialtair) said on 20th October 2013, 8:38

        Oh and with the 3rd pit stop for Webber, he can catch Vettel at the end of the race. He just couldn’t get past Grosjean easily.

        Bottomline is, Webber needs that 3rd pit stop no matter what.

  8. Aditya F. Yahya (@adityafakhri) said on 17th October 2013, 13:16

    if Sauber could hold on their pace relatively against the grid, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hulk on the podium in Brazil

  9. gDog (@gdog) said on 17th October 2013, 13:22

    I remember Vettel saying something like “don’t let him near me” in the last few laps, I don’t see that above (possible I missed it, not easy to read on phone).

    • Oletros (@oletros) said on 17th October 2013, 13:55

      I think you don’t remember very well

    • TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 13:58

      @gdog

      It’s amazing how people insist on this even after the transcript has been made public.

    • MNM101 (@mnm101) said on 17th October 2013, 14:04

      @gdog
      45 Sebastian Vettel Guillaume Rocquelin Vettel was held up by Perez while lapping the McLaren.
      Tell him to get out of the way [distorted].
      “don’t let him near me” is how Brundle and Crofty translated that message in their minds

      • Loup Garou (@loup-garou) said on 17th October 2013, 15:02

        It was quite clear what Vettel said and did even the very first time I saw it on TV. He was approaching Perez who had swung back onto the racing line after going a bit wide earlier. Vettel must have seen that and simply said “Get him out of my way” which is fair enough since he was about to lap Perez.

        A similar situation arose in the Chinese GP this year. Vettel on fresh tyres was rapidly closing-in on third-placed Hamilton in the last lap. Driving defensively, Hamilton realised that there was a back-marker ahead and yelled “Blue flag! Blue flag!” on the radio. Again, given the situation, fair enough.

    • I certainly heard that one too.

    • W (@yesyesyesandyesagain) said on 17th October 2013, 15:09

      I couldn’t believe the Sky announcers immediately pounced on this incorrectly. It was clear to me on the broadcast that Vettel was being held up by Perez, who had just pitted and came out ahead of Vettel. Vettel said that he didn’t care if Perez was on new tires, he still needed to get out of the way. Brundle immediately starts in with the “Oh oh, he asked them to keep Mark off of him!” and kept mentioning it for the rest of the race. The announcers clearly wanted to see Mark storm back and take the lead and it was sweet hearing their disappointment when Mark struggled to clear Grosjean and it became obvious he had no chance of catching Vettel. I would also be happy to see Mark win one more race, but it is clear that he just does not have the pace to do it on merit so I doubt it will happen unless Vettel breaks down. I also don’t think he is the kind of driver that wants to be gifted a pity win so I can’t imagine we’ll see Vettel stepping aside for Webber.

      • celeste (@celeste) said on 17th October 2013, 17:11

        And this is when I find hypocritical that Sky “trying” defend Vettel to the haters, when is clearly they are the ones feeding the hate the most…

        • venom (@venom) said on 17th October 2013, 23:56

          I doubt they even follow the race from their commentry box, in korea bundle and crofty took for every to realise alonso had passed jenseon(think it was jenson) it was funny cos they thought the replay was in real time and started commentating on that..lol.. and they made a couple of other mistakes, and crofty usually shouts some nonsense anyway.

          • venom (@venom) said on 18th October 2013, 0:02

            lol crofys commentry sytle heres how it goes….

            [statement relating to a driver or some random thing he blabers about]
            [exact same statement but reversed, and put in another drivers name]

            lewis hamilton struggling on his tyres, and one man who’s not struggling on his tyres is sebastian vettel who now does the fastest lap of the race, and then somemore nonsense.. lol

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th October 2013, 23:08

      @gdog Watch the race again and let me know if you spot it again and, if so, what lap it was.

      • nackavich (@nackavich) said on 18th October 2013, 23:44

        I’m sure I heard “don’t let him near me” as well towards the end of the race, but thought it was for a back marker.

      • gDog (@gdog) said on 19th October 2013, 8:13

        I didn’t record the race this week but I have been looking for somewhere to watch it again, haven’t found it in the usual places yet.

        However, I have to say that I am amused by the level of defensiveness for Vettel following my comment. At what point did I question what Vettel’s motives would have been for the message “don’t let him near me”? I was merely mentioning I thought I heard that message, maybe it was a Brundle/Crofty translation, but I was expecting to see it in the transcript.

        • Shena (@shena) said on 19th October 2013, 11:38

          @gdog Yes, Brundle paraphrased it incorrectly. Even then it wasn’t ‘don’t let him near me’. Brundle said ‘Keep him away from me’ and he and Crofty went on to make a big deal as if Vettel called for a team order. Unsurprisingly lots of people, it’s not just you, only remember What Brundle said.
          On the contrary, Ben Edwards immediately picked it up right that it was about a backmarker.

  10. wsrgo (@wsrgo) said on 17th October 2013, 13:25

    Bianchi was hit by Van der Garde at the first corner and bother retired.

    Rest in peace, bother….:D

  11. Sherlock said on 17th October 2013, 13:55

    Merc pilots didn’t recieve instruction to drink…

  12. MNM101 (@mnm101) said on 17th October 2013, 14:05

    38 Guillaume Rocquelin Sebastian Vettel :That’s Grosjean in front of you. Go and get him.
    God I love it when engineers say stuff like that

    • Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 17th October 2013, 14:10

      Much better than: “That’s Grosjean in front of you. Maintain a 2-second gap and easy on the tyres.”

    • TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 14:13

      @mnm101 I giggled like a little girl when he said that, because I expected to see Vettel show what he and the car can do. And he did deliver.

      • W (@yesyesyesandyesagain) said on 17th October 2013, 14:58

        This race could serve as an excellent example of why Vettel is a soon to be four times world champion and Webber, in the same car, is not. Vettel got the go ahead and blew right by Grosjean while Webber got bottled up behind the Lotus for lap after lap and blew the race. If the roles were swapped and Vettel was on the three stop strategy I would bet he would have really put the pressure on Mark.

        • Loup Garou (@loup-garou) said on 17th October 2013, 15:08

          You bet. See the highlights and you’ll see the difference. Vettel planned the pass before getting into the straight, closed-in quickly, opened DRS and whipped past with still quite a bit of the straight left. This did not allow Grosjean to make any defensive move. Webber on the other hand, repeatedly left it too far down the straight before trying to make the overtaking move, thus allowing RG to close the door on him.

          • No. Webber wasn’t close enough to make the move on the straight. That’s all. He was too far at the beginning of the straight. So he left it down the straight because he was too far to overtake, not because he want to make the overtaking.

          • zotje said on 18th October 2013, 1:08

            He did seem to have planned that move, but not in the way you explain. The trick was having the overspeed out of 130R, and forcing Grosjean to defend in the chicane. This compromised Grosjean’s line and thus acceleration out of the chicane, and allowed Vettel to get alongside early as you noted.

        • TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 15:27

          @yesyesyesandyesagain Definitely. I said if before, if Webber had been on a two stop strategy and Vettel on three, Vettel would have passed him and, the result would have been GRO-VET-WEB or VET-GRO-WEB. He simply had not the pace to fight Grosjean on the same tyres, much less Vettel, had Vettel have faster ones.

          If that had happened, we would still be hearing how the team “ruined” his race though…

        • Hamilfan (@hamilfan) said on 17th October 2013, 19:20

          @yesyesyesandyesagain Webber messed up the chicane a bit , grosjean just got better traction out of it too . I Don’t know whether running too much front wing will reduce traction out of slow corners . Anyone ?

          • zotje said on 18th October 2013, 1:12

            Aero only has effect at speed, so out of the slow chicane, the difference would have been minimal.

            What made the difference is that Webber tried to pass on the main straight alone, and it took him quite a few laps to discover the tactic Vettel used: Attack out of 130R forcing Grosjean to defend into the chicane, and thus compromising his exit onto the main straight.

        • Tomsk (@tomsk) said on 17th October 2013, 20:31

          Yes, I thought it really showed the difference between the two of them.

          There may be other reasons – saving up & timing of KERS, Vettel on sticker tyres v Webber’s scrubbed ones from qualifying, Grosjean a bit wiser by the time Webber caught him. Mostly it was a driver at the height of his powers against a guy who’s lost his edge a bit, but is still quick enough to take on all those sportscar drivers who never quite made it.

        • HoHum (@hohum) said on 17th October 2013, 22:08

          You are correct in the assesment of what happened but in Webbers defence he was running less wing so had less traction through, and exiting, the chicane than both Vettel and Grosjean.

    • +1

      Music to the ears.

  13. Mike Dee (@mike-dee) said on 17th October 2013, 14:11

    And again, not a single message to or from Alonso…

  14. sumedh said on 17th October 2013, 14:45

    I have barely seen 2 or 3 messages between Alonso and Stella in the 5 races since the summer break. I think he is quitting Ferrari..

  15. Loup Garou (@loup-garou) said on 17th October 2013, 14:56

    Either some (a lot of) people don’t follow F1 at all, or they really need to make up reasons to dislike Vettel/Red Bull.

    There does appear to be a large clique of people needing to make-up stories, ranging from the unlikely to totally lunatic, to discredit Vettel’s achievements.

    • TheBass (@) said on 17th October 2013, 15:39

      Some of it is indeed lunatic. I mean I get Multi 21 thing (though I don’t agree, considering Webber had done the same at least twice before), but so many of what is said it’s just so nonsensical it’s borderline scary.

      I mean, right now I just read that he asking for blue flags was childish… *sigh*

    • SilentLurker said on 17th October 2013, 20:40

      Yeah, and if he was caught kicking down little old ladies and strangling kittens there would be here a large clique of people saying that’s awesome of him and he has a perfect right to do so.

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