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  1. With that lap by Norris, McLaren is the only team so far to have set a quicker time than they managed during the race weekend:

    McLaren: 1’17.385 (-0.164) – Lando Norris
    Toro Rosso: 1’18.850 (+0.539) – Carlos Sainz Jnr
    Force India: 1’19.242 (+0.747) – Lucas Auer
    Williams: 1’19.866 (+0.764) – Lance Stroll
    Ferrari: 1’17.124 (+0.848) – Sebastian Vettel
    Renault: 1’18.572 (+1.104) – Robert Kubica
    Sauber: 1’21.503 (+1.531) – Gustav Malja
    Mercedes: 1’18.732 (+2.202) – Valtteri Bottas
    Haas: 1’20.994 (+2.223) – Santino Ferrucci
    Red Bull: 1’20.337 (+3.54) – Pierre Gasly

  2. I think today has been a good day. We have seen young talent showing well (Lando Norris has been a star), reliability from McLaren, and a positive showing from the man of the hour. I am chuffed that RK has had a good day and it will be interesting to see what comes next. It would be nice to see him in a car again even if just for half a season. Worst case it will close a chapter in his career, best case . . . . well who knows?

  3. Here’s how the times look with an hour to go:

    1. Sebastian VettelFerrari SF70H: 1’17.124 , 40 laps
    2. Lando Norris – McLaren MCL32: 1’17.682 (+0.558), 77 laps
    3. Kimi RaikkonenFerrari SF70H: 1’18.237 (+1.113), 49 laps
    4. Robert KubicaRenault RS17: 1’18.572 (+1.448), 132 laps
    5. Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso STR12: 1’18.850 (+1.726), 68 laps
    6. Lucas Auer – Force India VJM10: 1’19.242 (+2.118), 49 laps
    7. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’19.499 (+2.375), 77 laps
    8. Nikita Mazepin – Force India VJM10: 1’19.692 (+2.568), 34 laps
    9. Pierre Gasly – Red Bull RB13: 1’20.337 (+3.213), 93 laps
    10. Daniil KvyatToro Rosso STR12: 1’20.410 (+3.286), 42 laps
    11. Luca Ghiotto – Williams FW40: 1’20.414 (+3.290), 144 laps
    12. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’20.994 (+3.870), 103 laps
    13. Nobuharu Matsushita – Sauber C36: 1’21.998 (+4.874), 103 laps
    Last updated at: 17:01 CET

    1. Here’s how the teams compare to their best times from the race weekend. On average they’re 1.36 seconds slower:

      McLaren: 1’17.682 (+0.133) – Lando Norris
      Toro Rosso: 1’18.850 (+0.539) – Carlos Sainz Jnr
      Force India: 1’19.242 (+0.747) – Lucas Auer
      Williams: 1’19.866 (+0.764) – Lance Stroll
      Ferrari: 1’17.124 (+0.848) – Sebastian Vettel
      Renault: 1’18.572 (+1.104) – Robert Kubica
      Sauber: 1’21.503 (+1.531) – Gustav Malja
      Mercedes: 1’18.732 (+2.202) – Valtteri Bottas
      Haas: 1’20.994 (+2.223) – Santino Ferrucci
      Red Bull: 1’20.337 (+3.54) – Pierre Gasly

  4. 1:21.208
    1:21.436
    1:21.356
    1:21.344
    1:21.575
    1:21.180
    1:21.548
    1:21.053
    1:21.654
    1:21.521
    1:21.382
    1:21.383
    Those times are firmly in the region or faster than the Hungarian GP fastest laps set by Jolyon Palmer (1:21.589) and Nico Hulkenberg (1:21.611)

    Source : Sky F1

    1. amazingly consistent
      Long run pace
      Kubica’s last run: 1:21.2, 1:21.4, 1:21.3, 1:21.3, 1:21.5, 1:21.1, 1:21.5, 1:21.0, 1:21.6, 1:21.5, 1:21.3, 1:21.3.

  5. Red flag just before the lunch break, here are the updated times:

    1. Sebastian VettelFerrari SF70H: 1’17.124 , 40 laps
    2. Lando Norris – McLaren MCL32: 1’17.894 (+0.770), 57 laps
    3. Kimi RaikkonenFerrari SF70H: 1’18.237 (+1.113), 20 laps
    4. Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso STR12: 1’18.850 (+1.726), 68 laps
    5. Lucas Auer – Force India VJM10: 1’19.292 (+2.168), 49 laps
    6. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’19.499 (+2.375), 36 laps
    7. Robert KubicaRenault RS17: 1’19.681 (+2.557), 74 laps
    8. Pierre Gasly – Red Bull RB13: 1’20.337 (+3.213), 60 laps
    9. Luca Ghiotto – Williams FW40: 1’20.414 (+3.290), 67 laps
    10. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’21.235 (+4.111), 57 laps
    11. Nobuharu Matsushita – Sauber C36: 1’23.133 (+6.009), 45 laps
    Last updated at: 13:01 CET

    1. Still none of the teams have gone quicker than they did during the race weekend:

      McLaren: 1’17.834 (+0.285) – Stoffel Vandoorne
      Toro Rosso: 1’18.850 (+0.539) – Carlos Sainz Jnr
      Williams: 1’19.866 (+0.764) – Lance Stroll
      Force India: 1’19.292 (+0.797) – Lucas Auer
      Ferrari: 1’17.124 (+0.848) – Sebastian Vettel
      Sauber: 1’21.503 (+1.531) – Gustav Malja
      Mercedes: 1’18.732 (+2.202) – Valtteri Bottas
      Renault: 1’19.681 (+2.213) – Robert Kubica
      Haas: 1’21.185 (+2.414) – Santino Ferrucci
      Red Bull: 1’20.337 (+3.54) – Pierre Gasly

      1. Still, that time by Lando Norris is less then a tenth off from Stoffel’s qualifying lap. That’s massively quick compared to the rest of the field which is about a second off. Did they manage to find more performance from the Honda engine? Reliability seems to have improved a lot with this spec Honda.

        Makes me wonder what they can do during the summer break!

  6. Here are the times and laps after three hours of running:

    1. Sebastian VettelFerrari SF70H: 1’17.124 , 40 laps
    2. Lando Norris – McLaren MCL32: 1’18.564 (+1.440), 36 laps
    3. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’19.499 (+2.375), 35 laps
    4. Robert KubicaRenault RS17: 1’19.681 (+2.557), 48 laps
    5. Lucas Auer – Force India VJM10: 1’19.693 (+2.569), 35 laps
    6. Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso STR12: 1’20.055 (+2.931), 51 laps
    7. Pierre Gasly – Red Bull RB13: 1’20.337 (+3.213), 37 laps
    8. Luca Ghiotto – Williams FW40: 1’20.643 (+3.519), 48 laps
    9. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’21.235 (+4.111), 45 laps
    10. Nobuharu Matsushita – Sauber C36: 1’23.133 (+6.009), 23 laps
    Last updated at: 12:01 CET

  7. No team has gone quicker in the entire test so far than they did during the race weekend. On average they’re 1.6 seconds slower. McLaren are closest:

    McLaren: 1’17.834 (+0.285) – Stoffel Vandoorne
    Williams: 1’19.866 (+0.764) – Lance Stroll
    Ferrari: 1’17.124 (+0.848) – Sebastian Vettel
    Force India: 1’19.693 (+1.198) – Lucas Auer
    Sauber: 1’21.503 (+1.531) – Gustav Malja
    Toro Rosso: 1’20.055 (+1.744) – Carlos Sainz Jnr
    Mercedes: 1’18.732 (+2.202) – Valtteri Bottas
    Renault: 1’19.681 (+2.213) – Robert Kubica
    Haas: 1’21.185 (+2.414) – Santino Ferrucci
    Red Bull: 1’20.337 (+3.54) – Pierre Gasly

    Last updated at 11:49 CET

  8. Times after two hours:

    1. Sebastian VettelFerrari SF70H: 1’17.124 , 40 laps
    2. Lando Norris – McLaren MCL32: 1’19.145 (+2.021), 26 laps
    3. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’19.643 (+2.519), 27 laps
    4. Carlos Sainz JnrToro Rosso STR12: 1’20.055 (+2.931), 40 laps
    5. Lucas Auer – Force India VJM10: 1’20.238 (+3.114), 19 laps
    6. Robert KubicaRenault RS17: 1’20.255 (+3.131), 30 laps
    7. Pierre Gasly – Red Bull RB13: 1’20.337 (+3.213), 29 laps
    8. Luca Ghiotto – Williams FW40: 1’20.643 (+3.519), 35 laps
    9. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’21.235 (+4.111), 32 laps
    10. Nobuharu Matsushita – Sauber C36: 1’23.133 (+6.009), 12 laps
    Last updated at: 11:10 CET

    1. I hope we’ll see some qualifying simulation from Kubica. Latifi not much of a benchmark here, but still, beating his time with 2 hours in current-spec car under his belt seems to build up confidence.

    1. Lot of expectation on RK today – lets hope he doesn’t feel the pressure and bin it early on. I would love to see him return, even just for half a season. Worst case scenario it would be closing a chapter in the right way, and best case . . . . who knows :)

      1. Yes his fastest time so far is 1.6 sec off Fastest Q3 Time of Alonso and 1.2 off Vandoorne. We dont know what their programme is for today but i hope it has low fuel simulation to see how he goes for that one quick lap

    1. Look just as bad, sadly… I’m starting to get used to them (reluctantly..!) side-on, but head-on, just awful.

      One thing I do ‘like’ about the halo over the shields/aeroscreens is that I can still clearly see the helmet and helmet livery.

  9. One hour left in today’s test. Here’s how the times stand at the moment:

    1. Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren MCL32: 1’18.370
    2. Charles Leclerc – Ferrari SF70H: 1’18.463 (+0.093)
    3. Valtteri BottasMercedes W08: 1’18.732 (+0.362)
    4. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’19.649 (+1.279)
    5. Lance StrollWilliams FW40: 1’19.866 (+1.496)
    6. Nikita Mazepin – Force India VJM10: 1’19.910 (+1.540)
    7. Nicholas Latifi – Renault RS17: 1’20.302 (+1.932)
    8. Lucas Auer – Force India VJM10: 1’20.713 (+2.343)
    9. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’21.185 (+2.815)
    10. Max VerstappenRed Bull RB13: 1’21.228 (+2.858)
    11. Sean Gelael – Toro Rosso STR12: 1’21.334 (+2.964)
    12. Gustav Malja – Sauber C36: 1’21.763 (+3.393)
    Last updated at: 17:01 CET

  10. Here are the times at the lunch break:

    1. Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren MCL32: 1’18.370 34 laps
    2. Charles Leclerc – Ferrari SF70H: 1’18.463 (+0.093), 49 laps
    3. Valtteri BottasMercedes : 1’19.423 (+1.053), 71 laps
    4. Lance StrollWilliams FW40: 1’19.866 (+1.496), 65 laps
    5. Nikita Mazepin – Force India VJM10: 1’19.910 (+1.540), 52 laps
    6. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’20.193 (+1.823), 54 laps
    7. Nicholas Latifi – Renault RS17: 1’20.302 (+1.932), 40 laps
    8. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’21.654 (+3.284), 55 laps
    9. Max VerstappenRed Bull RB13: 1’22.054 (+3.684), 11 laps
    10. Sean Gelael – Toro Rosso STR12: 1’22.693 (+4.323), 23 laps
    11. Gustav Malja – Sauber C36: 1’22.969 (+4.599), 45 laps
    Last updated at: 12:18 CET

  11. The word is that Renault have offered Palmer a pay-off settlement, but it remains to be seen how this situation plays out.

    From BBC i dont take it seriously unless we get serious confirmations as it is from Andrew Benson

  12. Here’s the times after the first hour for those who have set them:

    1. Valtteri BottasMercedes : 1’19.893
    2. Lance StrollWilliams FW40: 1’19.949 (+0.056)
    3. Charles Leclerc – Ferrari SF70H: 1’21.026 (+1.133)
    4. Santino Ferrucci – Haas VF-17: 1’24.272 (+4.379)
    5. Nikita Mazepin – Force India VJM10: 1’25.696 (+5.803)
    6. George Russell – Mercedes W08: 1’41.101 (+21.208)
    7. Sean Gelael – Toro Rosso STR12
    8. Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren MCL32
    9. Max VerstappenRed Bull RB13
    10. Gustav Malja – Sauber C36
    11. Nicholas Latifi – Renault RS17
    Last updated at: 10:16 CET

  13. Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for the first day of testing from the Hungaroring.

    Here’s who’s driving today:

    Mercedes – George Russell
    Ferrari – Charles Leclerc
    Red Bull – Max Verstappen
    McLaren – Stoffel Vandoorne
    Force India – Nikita Mazepin
    Toro Rosso – Sean Gelael
    Haas – Santino Ferrucci
    Renault – Nicholas Latifi
    Williams – Lance Stroll
    Sauber – Gustav Malja

    Pirelli is also testing with Valtteri Bottas in a Mercedes.

      1. Try to join a formula sae team in university. Design a simple strong car , get fundamentals right. Try to get internships in racing teams from lower series. Its not always about what you kmow but who you know.

        Good luck!

      1. Don’t agree regarding MER & could not agree more regarding HAM. We’d like to see drivers doing proper fights. Of course if your partner drives like SAI or VER or MAG, you know it’s gonna finish by a contact. But if you do have fair drivers, that should be possible… hopefully…

  14. Can you just imagine if Max hadn’t hit Ricciardo? He wouldn’t have had the penalty, and both Red Bulls would be right up there. Would have made it interesting, and both Red Bulls like to get their elbows out.

  15. And that should be a penalty for Magnussen. Nowhere near the racing line, no intention other than to push Hulk off. Race gets screwed first by his team in the pits, then by Magnussen. Would’ve been like 8th if they could use wheel guns. Still ahead of Palmer though

  16. Why would they give Bottas the place back anyway :S points are smarter on Hamilton if we’re playing the team game. Not as is he’s not quicker.

    1. Plus, if they let Raikkonen through, Hamilton will surely get past Vettel without a car in between with Sebs troubles. And I can’t see Hamilton getting past Raikkonen

  17. Hi,
    Aha, so we see MER’s superb sport policy: contrary to FER, we let our drivers fight… as long as they are anyway the only two in a position to win and everyone’s else is 100 points behind. Shame for BOT, since he’s not out of the title fight at all (22 points from HAM I think).

  18. Such a shame of that 10sec penalty else Max would have been much closer. Now the unbeliebable stupid Stewards also punished the fans.

  19. Such a shame there won’t be an overtake in the top 5. This would be really interesting if there was even the chance of an overtake. They can’t even drive within a second of each other.

  20. VET’s best chance of high points is to maintain position. Overtaking is so hard even with the pace advantage of the Mercs behind, I doubt they can pass RAI. Would be more fun if this isn’t the case..

  21. Did Bottas make a mistake, or was it a Sauber holding him up for ages? FOM really not on their A-game today with footage, they did not show us Alonso getting past Sainz in the end

    1. Kimi seemed to even be braking when he got out of the pits to sort in behind Seb. Wouldn’t be allowed ahead, would he. Real shame because now he should be their best bet for the race win.

  22. What is the pitstop time here, given that SAI is 22s behind HAM, does that mean everyone before that will be able to know they won’t get worse than 5th on return (apart from ver …).

  23. Vettel is likely to have a bent steering arm. This will give him too much toe in, which will result in too much understeer and will prematurely wear out his front tyres. It does make the car more stable tho. Lets hope it holds together.

  24. Hm, strange that they give Verstappen a pretty heavy penalty for somehting that was more of a mistake than any intent while Sainz gets away with pushing Alonso off which looked far more malicious to me.

    1. I think the stewards look at the outcome when deciding on penalties ( or no penalties).

      Having said that I think relying on outcomes , if that is really the case , is a poor way to do things.

      1. if they took a look of the outcome, then BOT should definitely be punished of simular incidents in lap 1. VES was eliminated by RAI due to error of BOT.

    2. Kvyat got stop&go when Sainz was giving him no space while entering the corner that led to a contact. This time it was sole mistake by Verstappen, which is usual for him. If stewards were more consistent he would get stop&go. Rowland didn’t receive anything at all.

  25. So many seem to be compareing this verstappen incident to Bottas’s in Baku. They are so different. In Baku, neither driver retired due to the incident and Bottas suffered much more at the time. The stewards also deemed it a 50 50 clash as cimi madea speculative move. So even though at the time Bottas suffered more. Neither was more to blame more than the other. With the incident here, Verstappen made Ricciardo retire instantly and was 100% responsible even if it wasn’t intentional. Deserved penalty.

    1. Yeah, the only things I disagree with about with Ricciardo is that a) it was him overtaking, Verstappen had every right to be there and b) I don’t think not wanting to have his teammate pass was behind it, it was just Verstappen underestimating how much grip he had on the front left after getting off the tarmac a bit earlier.

  26. Palmer also cut across Hulk’s inside line into turn 1 as well ffs, could’ve made up a few places but he had to brake. Wasn’t dirty from Palmer or anything just annoying as a Hulk fan.

  27. Dumb if Hulk gets a pen… Turn 1 of lap 1, about 4 wide, he was being pushed wide so had nowhere to go… And the stewards said they’ll be more lenient at turn 1 this year. Racing incident all day.

      1. I disagree. Verstappen is always on the ragged edge and *just* the right side of it. This time he overstepped it, as he didn’t compensate for the marbles he picked up running wide at the exit of turn 1.

    1. No, unless it is hyper-proportionally to how much money teams have – 1m for Red Bull/Mercedes/Ferrari is cost of easy winnings, for Sauber it means they can’t update the front wing for a while.

      1. I like your idea of fines as a proportion rather than an absolute figure. This idea could be extended to potentially many other areas in the rules , if not done so already.

      1. Ok… I’ll give. I suppose it was the insanity of the unpredictable nature of his personality that paralleled nicely with the nature of F1. Then again Keith, I’ve had a few pints. ;)

          1. The main thing is that bar on the left showing the drivers timings. It used to be a small descrete bar in the middle at the bottom. It showed 5 drivers at a time and vertually always showed the time gap. Now, it is a huge bulky box to one side that the cars keep driving behind. And most of the time, it doesn’t show the time gaps. Much bigger and shows less. It is very irritating. It is also unreliable. In Canada, on lap 3, it suddenly said Bottas was 18th and a lap down when that was totally false. These things just didn’t happen until this year.

          2. I like how the US feed adds in some extra statistics, including showing which driver you are currently watching. Seems they also used more of the FOM graps than Sky did yesterday which would mean it is partially down to choice (the driver spec grapifcs are their own)

  28. I just found out that Perez is going to become a father later this year. That would make him the fourth current driver as far as I’m aware to become a father during his active career.

  29. I still think Bottas does have his chances to win this championship. He is the only one to have a retirement out of the top 3. Vettel and Hamilton haven’t had one and they are all within the top 25 points. If Vettel and Hamilton have a retirement this race and Bottas wins, he will be leading the championship. If his good form continues, there is a chance he could get the title. Good luck helped Rosberg last year and the same may happen this year with him. I think that at the moment, he is certainly looking as good or possibly better than Rosberg was. Bottas is doing a solid job and I hope Mercedes will keep him.

  30. Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for today’s Hungarian Grand Prix.

    There have been some pre-race dramas for pole sitter Sebastian Vettel. Ferrari had to make changes to his hydraulics this morning. However his car should be ready for the race and no parts have been changed which would incur a grid penalty.

  31. Does a long wheelbase car (merc) have a higher development potential than a short wheel base car (ferrari), holding everything else constant?

    1. I don’t think so, What they were talking about there is on a track like this with tight sharp corners (and lots of them) having a long wheel base car takes a little longer to turn than a short wheel base car.

  32. Hell yes, my fantasy league at Grand Prix Master is looking DAMN GOOD this weekend. My two driver picks are 1-2 and my chassis pick is 3-4, engine pick is 5-6 (can’t pick the same team for each section i.e. chassis, engine, driver.)

  33. Spec series for the top 10 f1 drivers at the following tracks in a 5 week period:

    1. Spa
    2. Silverstone
    3. Red bull ring
    4. Nurburgring nord
    5. Monza

    1. Only if they spend about 30 million bring the Nurburgring Nord. up to safety standards. Don’t want one of the top 10 drivers in the world getting killed on that death trap lol.

  34. I’d like to see a head to head with all the drivers in identical cars. I guarantee you Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen would be in the top 5. With extra emphasis on Alonso. In my opinion you put Alonso in an equal car with anyone and he’ll beat them. He did in 2007 with lewis so don’t give me that (he didn’t beat lewis, because it was a tie in points and lewis only beat him on a technicality). Plus you have to factor in Alonso wasn’t only fighting lewis, he was fighting McLaren as a whole too who were more supportive of their golden boy.

    1. At first it was the tire they set the time on in Q3. What happend was that some choose to sit Q3 out to have a fresh and free choice of tire. They changed it so the top 10 in Q2 has to start on that set so they can push more in Q3

    2. 3-4 years tyres used to do back best lap in Q3 was used in race. In those days people who would qualify 9-10 would not make a lap to get free choice of tyres hence they changed rules

      1. Trade off question

        Would hard tyres with minimal marbles provide better racing than soft tyres that have marbles ?

        I also think that harder tyres would make the tyres less thermally sensitive when following cars.

  35. Compared to some other tracks, The Saubers don’t look quite as far off the top teams in terms of their times. Their upgrades may have helped. If there are several retirements, they may have a chance of points.

    1. sandbagging is the wrong term, teams do all sorts of checks, and run a whole bunch of simulations to test tyre stint lengths, setups, track conditions, and thats without testing new components as well. So its not like the cars out on Friday are just going to be fastest because there is only bragging rights up for grabs

    1. I miss the old graphics where they just showed a small descrete box with the drivers positions in the race at the bottom of the screen. That showed their positions and split times the whole time and it was small. Now, Every race, they have a huge box on the left that shows every driver and about 75% of the time, it doesn’t show the time gaps. The graphics are pathetic this year. So many things about the graphics and timings were better last year.

  36. Are all the problems Red Bull are having this year to do with Renault? They seem to be having far more problems with Red Bull than the works Renault team. Is Red Bull partly related to these issues. I don’t know.

    1. That’s an excellent idea. Thirty-one years ago it was a Communist country and I suppose that they spoke Hungarian. So what should the corners be called? We could apply English names, but that sounds rather boring.

    1. The lap record is set in the race.

      But it’s not a helpful metric as drivers often lap well off their potential pace at times during the race, particularly in the closing stages when the cars are at their quickest.

          1. Yea, I guess we wound need refueling back in order to smash that one.
            I am curious about the race time though. Do you think this year’s race will be faster than 2004?

          2. Well, nevermind that. I guess it is not possible. The race would have to be 5 minutes faster than last year, so I think that’s out of the question.

  37. Hello everyone and welcome back for the final hour of practice.

    Do we still have the three-way fight we enjoyed yesterday? Can we get through the next hour without another red flag? Can Palmer keep it on the track?

    Let’s find out.

    1. I hope you have a great time. I’ve only seen a stage of Rallye Bohemia in town here once, loved the old cars exhibition most though, those Lancias, od BMW, Audi, Ford etc

      1. I hope they have a spare of that new floor (and that new FW), otherwise it will be back to the old bits for him. YEah, sure he had a lot of bad luck with the car, but sigh. I don’t think even 6-8 million will help him get high up that shopping list for Renault for 2018

  38. Track evolution helping Ricciardo a bit off course, but looking solid enough for Red bull. Looks like Verstappen is on a different program? Or just half a second slower?

  39. Comparing Sky and Ch4 coverage. On the one Ted has been moaning about the Halo for 5 minutes now (after they interviewed all drivers about that) while on CH4 we actually get Ben and Karun commenting the laps the drivers are doing on track (with a few mentions of Halo in between). Glad we still ahve Ch4.

  40. Again, remember how Hamilton mentioned not being happy to share information with his teammates, saying they should figure that out for themselves. Bet he already feels differently :-) Nice lap.

    1. Would be quite the challenge going up against Leclerc anyway. I guess he was just too desperate to show himself, he looked like he was driving the car quite hard until the crash.