2012 Rome Grand Prix circuit revealed

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Gianni Alemanno – the mayor of Rome – will be hoping that Ferrari’s threat to pull out of F1 is a bluffing exercise.

This is the street circuit in Rome which is at the centre of Alemanno’s hopes to hold a Grand Prix from 2012.

Update: See below for new track map and more details unearthed in the comments.

Update 2: Now there’s an official website as well. See here for more: Rome Grand Prix track video lap

Vit unearthed the story in the Italian papers and translated the following details:

  • Ecclestone gave his OK and will help Rome to “realise their dream”
  • First it was intended to use more of the Cristoforo Colombo street, but after Hermann Tilke’s visit this project was changed and new track was mapped.
  • Track: start on Tre Fontane street (where paddock would be build using rugby fields), left turn to Val Fiorita street going uphill to Colosseo Quadrato (Mussolini time monument), turn to the Civito del Lavoro street with a chicane on Agricultura square, right turn to Cristoforo Colombo street and up to Marconi square, U-turn at Marconi square around the obelisk at the widest radius (there is still a possibility that this turn will be further on Colombo around Palalotto building so that cars will pass the bridge over the lake), after turn back in direction of City centre on Colombo, right turn at Industria square, downhill to the left to Luneur park, left turn to the start/finish line.

What surprises me about the circuit is how simple it looks – it has far fewer corners than recent additions to the calendar, like Singapore. That’s no bad thing – I’m all for more variety in circuit designs.

Presumably the long, sweeping first turn could be taken flat out, making turn two a viable overtaking opportunity. And the long, looping

Here’s some pictures of the area courtesy of Google Streetview:

First turn
Second turn
Hairpin at the monument
Final turn

Will F1 end up racing at Rome in three years’ time? Many European Grand Prix promoters are struggling with high race fees and low attendance. But if there’s any country that can pack an F1 race, it’s Italy.

Providing Ferrari stick around.

Big thanks to Vit for the tip and for the scan of the original article which you can find on the F1 Fanatic drop.io

Update: Guido in the comments posted this map described in a different story which looks much closer to what we’d expect from an F1 circuit:

Also see the press release posted by HounslowBusGarage. Thanks for the comments guys!

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86 comments on “2012 Rome Grand Prix circuit revealed”

  1. noooooooooooo. this looks rubbish

  2. Scott Joslin
    13th May 2009, 22:47

    My gut feel when I saw the layout was “isn’t this a track from Gran Tourism 3?”

    I just wonder which track will be dropped for it?

    1. Nah, the GT3 track looks far better than this mickey-mousey layout.

    2. Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth!

  3. Robert McKay
    13th May 2009, 22:48

    There’s a spoon-like extension which looks suspiciously roundabout-like.

    If Formula 1 ever has a track that employs a roundabout, then we’ll have to cancel the whole sport, I know that for a FACT.

    Overall, looks like they knocked this one up in half an hour, forty minutes tops.

    1. Like Halfords’ turn at the Birmingham Superprix course? (@2.19)

    2. Funny how much our current year F1 cars look like those F3000’s…

      I don’t think racing into the roundabout is what’s wrong with it, it’s the five-turns-and-nothing-doing design like the thing Tilke rubber-stamped in… Bucharest was it?

  4. I agree with the folks that dislike it, though at a glance it’s nice in principle, in practice it looks like there’s nothing happening except an unnecessarily sharp hairpin around a monument which will be in danger of getting defaced by car debris.

  5. Andrew White
    13th May 2009, 23:03

    What happens at turn four where the circuit appears to go through a tree? I looked at Google Streetview and it appears to be a quite steep mound with some trees on it…

    1. Looks like they’ll have to put in a purpose-built section there. There’s another diagram of it in the original article.

  6. I hope Bernie’s not thinking of making this the site for the Italian GP. Monza should never be replaced, it is one of the great tracks on the calander along with Monaco and Spa.

  7. hmmm… i kinda like the idea of a roundabout in an F1 circuit ;D
    But judging from what we can see now… it looks like we might end up with yet another no-overtaking-as-longs-as-everyone-has-4-wheels circuit like Valencia or Singapore :( At least we might hope Italians will do something crazy with it (a few turns on cobbles? ;D)
    btw, what is it going to be called ? Since Imola was always San Marino GP and I assume Monza is going to stay on the F1 calendar as Italian GP… It looks like a Vatican GP coming up :P Maybe the Pope would consider sponsorship? :)

    1. It would have to go through St. Peter’s Square, and I’d be all for it.

      I think the plan is that there’d be no more Monza. :(

  8. how about just put canada & us back??

    bernie has lost it….singapore, bahrain, turkey, fuji, valencia…are all recent additions which are lame.

  9. Tree Corner (as it will eternally be known now!) looks like it could be steep!

  10. So, Hermann Tilke is helping with this project? Does he have some special deal with Bernie or something? How did he come to get such a monopoly on F1 track design?

  11. HounslowBusGarage
    13th May 2009, 23:40

    What a vile excuse for a circuit.
    It certainly can’t be called the Rome Grand Prix – it would be like holding a race in Croydon and calling it London!
    The roads here are quite unsuitable for a street circuit without totally re-laying them just before the racing – imagine lorry shaped ‘tramlines’ about twenty mm deep!
    Let’s go back to Las Vegas, Phoenix and Detroit all in one. They will all be better than this!

    1. “Let’s go back to Las Vegas, Phoenix and Detroit all in one. They will all be better than this!”

      HousnslowBusGarage…That was the very first thought that crossed my mine when I saw the track.

  12. Meh. Looks kind of bland. Maybe if it ran through that ‘S’ shaped section of the park at the top left corner, it might hold a little more appeal. But who wants a track full of slow right handers, a big 180 degree turn and two long straights joined by a swooping corner?

  13. Bland bland bland. Reminds me of the Ceasers Palace circuit. The glamour and history of the city count for nothing if the track is a bunch of bland 90 degree corners away from the famous landmarks.

  14. Firstly, after T2 the course leaves the road to drive straigth up some stairs towards the Colosso Quadrato. Shurely that cannot be part of the plan…

    shouldnt it be clockwise rather than counterclockwise?
    the sweeping lefthander following start/finish is waaaay too fast with the straight before it and no runoff – its begging for another senna/tamburello scenario. Also theres no runoff at the right turn into the Via Cristoforo Colombo, nor at the left turn into the Viale della Industria.
    Change the track from counterclockwise to clockwise and suddenly theres no runoff problems at all. First turn is no last turn, entry speed is slwoer due to the shorter straight preceding it and there is now a possibility of squeezing in a small left-right-stretch-right-left bus stop chicane, without shortening the tracks only straight too much.
    Tilke is no idiot: he definitely looked for runoff. Trust me, ive seen up close how the track layout plans evolved in Singapore. There the speculating press initially got the racing direction messed up too, and the initial plans they showed changed significantly in the final version.

    that pond is to Rome what fountain of wealth was to s’pore, they really want it, but its not feasible: it’ll make the track more than 2km longer and theres no runoff nor space for a chicane in those sweeping left and right corners in between the bridges and the Via C.Colombo both directions.

    But they would still need it.

    Regardless of all the above, it simply wont happen in this layout. its less than 3.5km, and with that little corners laptimes would be well under a minute and traffic reminiscent of ordinary Rome rush hour.
    Its also quite narrow; S’pore is really narrow at Anderson Bridge, but 4 lanes for most of the remainder. This track is 3 or 2 lanes for half of its course.

    So let the press get back to the drawing board and come up with another ‘plan’ based on the little leaked info they have. Or let us just wait till a real presentation comes out of Rome with Bernie present.

    On a personal note, i really wouldnt like to see all of Musso’s excessive sugarpie buildings and monuments, theyre plain ugly in fact.

  15. mp4-19's world of nonsense
    14th May 2009, 0:05

    looks crap. Can i say crap?

    1. You can call it crap.

    2. “mp4-19’s world of nonsense”

      what does mthat mean?? & i have a fair idea of who you are.

    3. most uninspiring track i’ve ever come across. we mustn’t have a race in rome just for the sake of having it. i dont know whats so exciting about this track. i dont think it has any elevation changes. its look like a rough sketch. i dont like it. rome is an ancient & holy city. we must not deface it.

  16. I actually kind of like the design, so long as we keep Monza.

  17. No one knows what this track will race like, even given the assumption that this project sees the light of day.

  18. People moan about all the circuits being all the same. This one finally looks a bit different and people still moan. I don’t want it to replace Monza but this looks good

  19. Driving in this box doesn’t seem like it would be fun to drive or watch.

    There are much better old tracks like Imola and new tracks like Algarve that should be considered over Rome when it comes down to racing, but money talks. I just wish BE could find a balance between making money and keeping the races as races, and not shows…. if that makes any sense! :)

  20. I kind of like it but think they should extend it behind the sports fields making the best feature of it into a long sweeping S bend instead of a single high speed curve. I also like the U turn around the obelisk.

  21. Spoiler: Imola is a terrible circuit.

    1. Agreed !

  22. I’m not against Italy having two races, but this is not the best of ideas…

    At the moment, we have too many races in places the sport really dosen’t have a strong focus in. At the same time, the future of the British and German GPs are in danger, while there is no race in the United States, Canada, and France. In my opinion, Bernie and company should be more focused on getting those races back than starting up this project.

    I’ve never been to Rome, so I can’t offer any commentary on the surroundings, but I would still say go back to Imola if F1 is looking for a second Italian date. To me, this project seems to be another concept where the Tifosi pack the stands and the normally-dominant Ferrari boys romp to victory on another hard-to-pass-on street circuit.

    Not the best deal.

  23. eerrr that looks like the most boring and un-inventive track ever.

    was it a school project for kids to send in?

  24. Prisoner Monkeys
    14th May 2009, 4:22

    I don’t mind it. It looks pretty compact at the basic view, but a lot of it is going to depend on how wide and how long the circuit is.

  25. Prisoner Monkeys
    14th May 2009, 6:57

    I have an observaton to make. Every time a new circuit is unveiled, a lot of people immediatedly pounce on it as being representative of the sport’s flaws. But NOWHERE does anyone EVER suggest an alternative, or how the circuits can be improved. I think that for what he has to work with – namely the influence of local geography on what can and cannot be done with a circuit – Hermann Tilke actually does a pretty decent job.

    The only change I’d make to this circuit is the hairpin: I’d run the course down over the bridge and have the cars loop the big rotunda thing. That way, the curren hairpin could be reconfigured as a high-speed chicane, and if it were done correctly, designed as the kind of corner where you can take flat out and have fresh rubber but have to back off if you’ve been going for a while, it could actually be a pretty awesome corner, a kind of Eau-Rouge-meets-Becketts/Maggotts/Chapel-in-a-city with even less amrgin for error than those corners normally allow.

    1. Im flaming this track because it quite obviously is not a serious plan – theres all of these basic mistakes in it – its something that the press have drawn up based on what theyve heard (was leaked).

      suggesting improvements to an f1 track is no easy thing, since designing one is a hugely complicated job, and there is much more to conisder thna just nice corners, runoff areas and a pit building: theres logistics, disaster evacuation, the land it is built on, local regulations, etc etc.
      Im happy with most peoplpe not suggesting any improvements: most wouldnt be capable of producing anything better and it would be irrelevant anyway unless theyd send it to Tilke and not post it here. But if you want me to have a go at it, feel free to ask me and ill have a go at it over the weekend.

    2. that hispeed chicane cannot be a hispeed chicane since theres no runoff. overwater bridges sun into the same issue.

      Tilke tracks are not so exciting because theyre often on flat land – where the organizer buys a nice square poststampp of land near some metro area airport, to get lots of townsfolks and tourists. often its a former swamp (malaysia/China) or Persian Gulf south coast location (Bahrein/Abu Dhabi). Former swamps innately have no elevation, and building it would be unfeasibly costly, and persian gulf cost location have every little elevation… the bit they have is loose sand, and if you build a track on it, the sand will just blow away from underneath…
      So the main issue with bad tracks is with the organizers who want the wrong location in the first place. And with bernie listening to FOA’s (CVC’s) wallet…

  26. As for the track in Rome, I think it might work. They’ll have to smooth the edges a bit and looks like we might get something resembling the bus stop chicane from spa (when it was a good bus stop).

    I agree with others that it should not take away from Monza. but some other crappier circuits yeh. Barcelona maybe????

  27. With all the 90 degree corners the layout does look a bit odd, I am all for variety of circuits as long as they provide good races.

    With so many new countries wanting a Grand Prix and F1 already not going to places like Canada, USA and France then I don’t believe any country should have two Grand Prix even if they end up calling it something like The Mediterranean Grand Prix. If there are two good circuits in one country wanting to host a race, then I think they should alternate like the German and Japanese Grand Prix currently do.

    As F1 already has an Italian Grand Prix at Monza I hope a Rome Grand Prix doesn’t happen, especially as the high speed low down force Monza will be more unique circuit on the calendar than another street circuit.

    The decision will of course come down to how much Bernie will make from it, and he has voiced a preference for races around major cities as he thinks they are more glamorous, ignoring how good the race would by.

  28. Very nice, but why?
    It would be more interesting to use the route used by the Mini Coopers in ‘The Italian Job’ – stairs and all! :-)

    1. Yes and they would have to race to the song “self preservation society” lol

  29. Terrible… but it’s still better than Valencia. :)

  30. I live in Rome and i think this circuit could be a good one.. i liked more the one used for Ferrari’s 50th anniversary (Circo Massimo) but anyway there is enough space to make some improvements.

  31. Who wouldn’t have this over Valencia?

    As long as it doesn’t replace Monza and other traditional circuits, I think that this design is worth an addition. It’s got a very good point for overtaking and by the looks of it, cars wouldn’t require a steep aerodynamic setup, which will undoubtedly help in overtaking.

  32. It looks like an old, classic circuit from the 50’s/60’s. Short, simple, and punchy. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing remains to be seen. But surely if you’re going to have a Roman Grand Prix, you’d want the circuit to be, you know, in Rome, with the Colosseum, the fountains, and the parks, rather than an edge-of-town industrial estate.

    1. Prisoner Monkeys
      14th May 2009, 10:53

      Actually, the EUR district (Esposizione Universale Roma) where the circuit is located was designed by Mussolini to celebrate twenty years of fascism (sounds right up Bernie and Max’s alley) in a planned expo that never came about, owing to World War II. There’s actually quite a few lesser-known landmarks in the area, including the Obelisk, the “Square Colleseum” and a giant sports dome. Just because Formula One is in a famous city, it doesn’t mean it should be obligated to visit all the landmarks. If you do that, you’re really limiting yourself as to where the circuit could go.

    2. This is also the argument against a City Of London GP – the tourist board and the money-makers would love to have a race round the famous landmarks, but the cost of closing busy shopping streets and making them safe takes too long (Monaco takes 3 weeks) and would cost too much to be practicle – especially since Bernie would take all the revenue too…..

    3. Prisoner Monkeys
      14th May 2009, 14:33

      That’s a very common misconception. The money from hosting a race doesn’t go straight into Bernie’s coffers. Some of it does, but most of it would go towards FOM so that they can function. They need to get their money from somewhere, and that somewhere is the hosting of comercial rights to Grands Prix.

    4. Maybe this will be a chance for people to understand that Rome is not only the Coliseum, or Piazza di Spagna, but also places like Eur.

  33. Like Halfords’ turn at the Birmingham Superprix course?

    For the locals in Birmingham it’s not a roundabout but an ‘island’. My wife’s from there and it was a bit confusing when you first get directions about going round the island!

    Nothing wrong with using street circuits as long as there are wide turns. It’s the bottleneck part of the Birmingham Superprix course that caused an issue when 1 car turned side-on blocking the course.

    I quite like the initial look of the Rome course. It would be interesting to see how much elevation change you get in it.

    However, losing Monza for it would be difficult to bear. I can never see anyone making another Monza like track. After losing the old Hockenheim, Monza is the only pure speed track left.

    1. well you would get elevation change, excessive elevation change that is at ‘Tree Corner’. Its just too steep, no space for a smooth upcurve… FIA would not certify this track with probability abounding to certainty because of just that.

  34. I hoped the track will actually pass through Historical Rome, but it is nowhere near :-( With this location and surroundings it could be any city :-( Shame

  35. **** this trash. I want Monza!

  36. I hoped the track will actually pass through Historical Rome, but it is nowhere near :-( With this location and surroundings it could be any city :-( Shame

    Surely the roads there would be too narrow with no chance of any grandstands or pit complex being built. But then maybe Bernie could get a Vatican GP if you wanted a bit more character in the surrounding buildings?

    1. yes, the pits would be a problem, but not the roads. there are quite some wide roads there, along the river and the boulevards.

      The Vatican GP is also an interesting idea :-) Just imagine the trophy and who will be handing it :-)

  37. Robert McKay
    14th May 2009, 13:41

    To be honest, I don’t think it’s got enough corners for a modern Grand Prix track.

    I don’t say that in a “we need to add in some entirely pointless switchbacks and chicanes” way – I actually like the fact that, although its rather bland looking, at least its not bland and overdesigned (as others have said, looks a bit American streetrace circa 1986) – but in simple terms of what tracks actually seem to appear on the calendar, I suspect this track would get some extra fiddly sections added on.

  38. A strange layout, but like Keith said, variety is good.

    I definitely think they should travel further south down Cristoforo Colombo though, across the river, around that large round building (it says ‘Pala Lottomatica’ there on the map) and back across the river.

  39. There’s more chance of me being WDC in 2012 than there is this circuit coming to fruition..

  40. NOOOO !!
    The map you displayed is not the right one !
    Here you’ll find the correct map, presented today
    It has many more bends, no less than 26-28, depending on the way you count the. nevertheless, it has long straights and the varage lap speed has benn calulated at 177 kmph

    http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo.php?id=58193&sez=HOME_SPORT#

    1. Nice spot Guido! Have added the map above…

  41. BrokenBaculum
    14th May 2009, 20:15

    I like it, but not at loss of Monza. If only the European GP could be alternated, between Valencia, Silverstone, Nurburgring and this circuit, instead of filling a new slot.

    If that were the case, it’d be good.

  42. HounslowBusGarage
    14th May 2009, 20:49

    Well, if the *right* circuit is the one presented by Guido, this is what Il Messagero has to say about it

    ROME (May 14) – “The candidature of Rome as the seat of a Formula 1 Grand Prix from 2012 is no longer a dream but a real possibility.” Said Mayor Gianni Alemanno, during the presentation in the Capitol of the study of pre-automobile travel, thus launching “a project on which the town of Rome depends/balances”.

    The plan has synergy with the Province and Region. “From now on a central part of the constitution of the Promoter” said Alemanno “must involve everyone, Province, Region, social, economic and political, to make sure that Rome can move forward and attain this application in competition with major cities.” A core issue is the strong competition from other world capitals such as Paris, London and Beijing, which have also made a proposal to host a Grand Prix of Formula 1. “They are all rival cities, but we believe that the scenario that Rome would offer to build a Grand Prix (track) is unique in the world.”

    Investment of Euro 160 million. The track of the future Gp di Roma will be more than four kilometres long in the northern part of the district of Eur, passing around the Palace of Congress and the Palace of Industry. According to the draft prepared by the City pre-investment in organizational terms amount to about 160 million euros, while the jobs that could be created are 10,000, with over one billion euros a year of economic impact on the national territory. The impact on tourism would be 324 thousand tourists more for a total of over one million and 300 thousand visits with tourists from 18 countries and 33 months of promotion on the web.

    The circuit of the Grand Prix which will be 4,669 meters long and which will be lapped in a time of one minute and 34 seconds at an average speed lap estimated at 177 km / h. It will not affect the Cristoforo Colombo and even Laurentina but will be the route in the north dell’Eur affecting viale dell’Arte, Viale delle Tre Fontane and Via di Val Fiorita. The course has been announced by the President of Fg and Group President of Federlazio, Maurizio Flammini, founder and promoter of the project.

    Flammini the district lends itself “because of the width of the roads, the relative lack of buildings along the route and the ability to offer spectators wide/long views. The Dell’Eur” neighbourhood characterized by examples of rationalist architecture as “the Palace of Culture Labour, the Palace of Congress, the Palasport “and even a hint of new architecture with the cloud of Fuksas, now under construction. ‘A scene of incomparable beauty that will complement the image of historical Rome. Access by spectators will be facilitated by the four metro stations that dot the route allowing access on foot without the obligation to use private cars.

    “We can not produce a Grand Prix in Rome without the Red (team).” “I do not think the idea of a Grand Prix in Rome without the Ferrari – Alemanno said – I am absolutely convinced that when you run in Rome and even earlier, Ferrari will be on the track. These days we have heard many times and Montezemolo has insisted that Ferrari cannot wait to race in Rome. ”

    “There is no negative impact on the environment.” The mayor did not fear that the event could have a negative impact from an environmental point of view: “It is a carefully designed circuit – said the mayor – to minimize the negative impact from the environmental and viability of the neighbourhood Indeed, it will be radically reviewed and improved through this initiative. ”

    The contrary Legambiente: “Finding alternatives all’Eur. The environmental Chiera are against the creation of a national circuit, capable of hosting the F1 Grand Prix. “The project of the Grand Prix of Rome brings together so many critical issues to be truly impossible – denounced Lorenzo Parlato, president of Legambiente Lazio – the impact on the city will be enormous with months of work, and weeks of tests on the neighbourhood streets in the midst of offices and buildings, noise and traffic will go through the roof, it is an absurd choice. It’s amazing to think of paddock and boxes located in the beautiful green spaces of dell’Eur. We believe we should think, to find an alternative solution in a dedicated location, leaving the unique scenery of Rome to many other cultural events. From a financial point of view we ask also that no provision is made for any public investment for the transaction. ”

    “Rome the capital of the key. The Northern League with the MEP Paolo Grimoldi attacked the Grand Prix of Rome, which would jeopardize the race on the Italian circuit of Monza. “We are seriously worried – he attacks the legislature – The feasibility of the Grand Prix of Formula 1 in Rome is the confirmation that a certain party, the North does not affect anything. It is a shame that the supposed capital of the country is trying to humiliate and rob the other cities in the territory every day. What to Rome is a dream for Monza and Brianza is a nightmare. ”

    Totti -It would be extraordinary. “I welcomed the news that a Formula 1 race is to be held in Rome. The racing people have a particular charm and racing in Rome I think is extraordinary.” The captain and symbol of the Rome football, Francesco Totti, all’Adnkronos commented with enthusiasm, the possibility that the capital could host a F1 Grand Prix: “All major sporting events like the World Cup of Swimming this year, do not that add that much prestige to our city – Totti adds – and I am sure that we are equal to the importance of the event.

    Monza: An end is called to the looting. Monza has bipartisan opposition against the draft of a Formula 1 Grand Prix in Rome. “The government cannot continue to plunder the Brianza and North in general, with the theft of the Grand Prix of Italy at Monza as well,” said Gigi Bridges, Alderman implementation of the Province of Monza and Brianza and presidential Centrist candidate in the next provincial elections. It is impossible to live with two Grands Prix in Italy, insists the Centre Right candidate, Dario Allevi, Deputy Mayor of Monza and fellow party Alemanno. “The commencement of a Grand Prix in Rome would undermine sponsors and spectators to the race Brianza. I soon expect to take firm and decisive control of the institutions on the ground because only through joint action rather than isolated events will this attack be rejected. My immediate commitment is to tell the government that we are no longer willing to tolerate those who blatantly plunder us and penalize us.”

    So it is apparently being seen as an attack on the Monza race in northern Italy.

    1. Thanks Hounslow where did you find that?

  43. It looks like an old, classic circuit from the 50’s/60’s.

    It does – sort of like Pedralbes and Montjuic Park in Spain.

  44. Robert McKay
    14th May 2009, 21:54

    The updated version looks reasonable, at least by modern F1 standards. Some of it does look quite fast and flowing, although other bits are the odd switchbacks and chicanes I said I expected more of.

    I think the shame is though that with a street circuit you are so fundamentally limited with what you can do, given that all the buildings are there and all the existing road you are using is designed for traffic flow, in grid/block format at that, and not the ultimate driving experience.

  45. How does one go about becoming a Formula 1 circuit architect? I would really like to show Mr Tilke who is boss. He has been allowed to design too many tracks and I think bernie needs to let someone else have a shot at it so we get different styles of tracks.

  46. Oh NO NO NO please not another street circuit. If the F1 big wig organisers are going to insist on boring street circuits then heavy duty water sprinklers must be installed on a randomly automated system to spice up the oppressive tedium of all street races…

  47. The new layout looks 1000% better with just that little bit of revision.

  48. The Sri Lankan
    15th May 2009, 3:15

    i’d say bring san marino back onstead of this karting track

  49. HounslowBusGarage
    15th May 2009, 8:58

    @ Keith, it’s the text from the link that Guido posted.
    The article he referenced in Il Messagero shows the same track configuation as the CGI on the other thread “Rome Grand Prix video track lap”, so I think it’s the correct one. Not sure where the first track layout came from – someone’s best guess perhaps?

  50. KingHamilton&co
    15th May 2009, 17:36

    new track looks much better, but i would call it a classic. if they want a street race in italy however, they should have taken a look at the Milan track in grid-thats a great street circuit!

    mind you-who cares? not like there will be F1 by 2012 anyway once ferrari, renault and toyota are out of the picture…….

  51. KingHamilton&co
    15th May 2009, 20:14

    My POST ABOVE: I meant WOULDNT call it a classic ;)

  52. I don’t know what this track is going to look like. I saw the first map and liked it. I saw the video and hated it. This map looks like it could work but I dont think their going to leave it like that. The video is what worries me becuase there was at least 7-8 chicanes

  53. They could call it the Vatican GP instead of San Marino, and then get to keep Monza. I thought Rome sounded quite interesting, but this looks crap.

  54. I have been to this area of Rome many times. The cross shaped building above the sports pitches on the straight is the Sheraton Roma which has always been my base. apart Very unattractive area of the city, you don’t really notice the park in all the concrete. Some gradient but not much. For transport a taxi ride out of city centre takes 20-30 minutes in normal traffic,but I think there is also metro nearby.

  55. this track looks pretty cool. I saw some ground level pictures that someone took. As long as it doesnt get tilkerized. it could be the best new track ever.

  56. ground level pictures at : http://forums.autosport.com/index.php
    showtopic=120813&st=40

    Track looks pretty cool

  57. the second version is prett y cool looking and the track does have a lot of elevation changes that you cant see from above. this track could be the best new circuit in recent history. the second version of the track is awsome

  58. Well, this track is pants, and it’s miles from Rome City anyway! it may as well be Lazio race! that covers the whole region. I’m sure I saw a track plan in december when I was there that went around the centre of the city, which would make it far more exciting.
    But on an exciting note, why cant we have a UK street route instead? Could be some excitement around the North Circular, or around the Bull Ring, or Swindon’s one way system! anything would be better than this route!

  59. This is the worst track layout i have ever laid my eyes on.when they said Rome i was thinking more along the lines of something as big as Monaco with a part of the track passing the coliseum and some other historical parts but this? Everyone involved in FIA or track designing right now need to be replaced ASAp before the sport is ruined any more than they already have with crap tracks like bahrain and abu dhabi.

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  61. Britalian Stallion
    13th December 2011, 21:18

    Second layout alot better!

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