Hamilton: McLaren have “more pace up our sleeves”

2011 European GP FP2 analysis

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, Valencia, 2011

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, Valencia, 2011

Lewis Hamilton says McLaren can go quicker having been second fastest behind Fernando Alonso in Valencia on Friday.

Here’s all the data from the second practice session for the European Grand Prix.

Longest stint comparison

  • Pirelli’s Paul Hembery gave an estimate for how long each type of tyre should last in the race: “With the new medium tyre, we should see a range of about 30 laps on race day and about 20 laps for the soft tyre, putting us on course to meet our targets for this event.” That would mean drivers could complete the distance with two pit stops.
  • Nick Heidfeld was especially pleased with his final stint: “I had my best long run ever in the afternoon session in terms of not encountering traffic; it was amazing and very good for learning about the car. I could make some changes from the steering wheel which was possible with having such a long run, and also it was good for learning the tyre characteristics of the new medium compound.”

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2011drivercolours.csv

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Sebastian Vettel 103.309 103.538 106.604 102.847 103.011 103.001 103.045 114.082 102.382 116.651 102.559 132.749
Mark Webber 103.605 103.096 102.659 103.098 109.315 103.467 102.555 102.518 102.994 111.147 106.74 102.856 107.745
Lewis Hamilton 103.38 104.05 107.835 103.408 106.18 109.153 104.343 106.484 104.708
Jenson Button 104.925 105.006 104.483 107.963 103.985 103.822 104.073
Fernando Alonso 103.666 104.362 110.678 103.89 107.077 104.379
Felipe Massa 104.009 103.992 103.574 104.572 104.118 106.143 105.44 104.344
Michael Schumacher 105.331 104.944 104.941 106.637 105.088 105.244 105.366 105.181 105.316
Nico Rosberg 105.87 105.416 105.844 111.938 108.604 109.439 105.373 109.307 105.573 105.672 106.106 106.411 108.087
Nick Heidfeld 105.565 105.337 105.138 105.178 104.935 105.219 104.592 105.129 105.505 105.98 105.835 106.328 106.946
Vitaly Petrov 105.267 104.914 105.827 104.812 105.589 106.134 105.736 105.761 105.472
Rubens Barrichello 105.978 105.702 105.353 111.659 105.294 108.15 107.977 106.851 107.758 115.495 106.786 110.024 107.225
Pastor Maldonado 106.48 105.831 105.769 105.619 106.408 106.158 106.282 105.987 106.523 106.858 107.613
Adrian Sutil 103.89 104.152 104.483 105.041 103.954 104.218 104.992
Paul di Resta 101.192 100.726 111.824 100.363 105.66
Kamui Kobayashi 109.119 106.363 106.07 106.502 106.55 106.345 106.685
Sergio Perez 105.329 105.257 105.447 105.783 105.263 105.135 105.089 104.921 105.172 105.486 105.686 107.374 105.763 105.761 107.342
Sebastien Buemi 104.932 103.273 107.761 103.114 107.964 102.873 103.094
Jaime Alguersuari
Heikki Kovalainen 106.169 106.334 106.097 106.336 106.525 106.738 107.042 108.1 107.996 106.751 106.626 107.436 108.597 107.831
Jarno Trulli 108.769 107.317 111.589 106.341 106.021
Narain Karthikeyan 112.881 108.962 120.077 111.317 124.339 107.557
Vitantonio Liuzzi 107.943 107.715 109.046 111.602 108.636 109.856 116.987 109.814
Timo Glock 113.496 104.063 106.692
Jerome d’Ambrosio 107.326 107.28 108.244 109.154 108.498 108.322 108.782 107.845 107.58

Ultimate lap times

An ultimate lap time is a driver’s best three sectors added together.

  • Kamui Kobayashi flat-spotted his front-right soft tyre soon after putting it on and felt he could have found more time.
  • Both Renault drivers got clean laps on the soft tyres. Vitaly Petrov said they were “around 1.5 seconds quicker than the mediums.”
Car Driver Car Ultimate lap Gap Deficit to best
1 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’37.881 0.087
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’38.086 0.205 0.179
3 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’38.136 0.255 0.059
4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’38.315 0.434 0.000
5 2 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’38.403 0.522 0.128
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’38.443 0.562 0.000
7 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’38.444 0.563 0.039
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’38.750 0.869 0.231
9 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1’39.040 1.159 0.000
10 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’39.586 1.705 0.000
11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’39.613 1.732 0.013
12 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’40.020 2.139 0.000
13 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’40.118 2.237 0.413
14 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1’40.173 2.292 0.128
15 18 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’40.185 2.304 0.269
16 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’40.363 2.482 0.000
17 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’41.852 3.971 0.231
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1’41.981 4.100 0.175
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1’42.239 4.358 0.000
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’42.273 4.392 0.000
21 25 Jerome d’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’42.516 4.635 0.293
22 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1’44.400 6.519 0.060
23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1’46.862 8.981 0.044

Complete practice times

  • Lewis Hamilton was second overall but expects to be competitive, saying: “I think we?óÔéĽÔäóve got some more pace up our sleeves for the rest of the weekend.”
  • But McLaren are having some difficulties with the new medium tyre. Hamilton said it was “difficult to switch on” and team principal Martin Whitmarsh admitted: “both Lewis and Jenson were unable to achieve a truly satisfactory balance with it.”
  • Michael Schumacher was fourth but doesn’t expect to be in the top three on Sunday. He said: “under normal circumstances we will not yet be strong enough to fight for the podium, and will most likely find ourselves starting around the fourth row.”
Car Driver Car Best lap Gap Stint lap At time Laps
1 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’37.968 3/3 66 35
2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’38.195 0.227 1/2 62 29
3 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’38.265 0.297 1/2 57 35
4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’38.315 0.347 1/3 62 30
5 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’38.443 0.475 3/3 63 32
6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’38.483 0.515 3/3 66 32
7 2 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’38.531 0.563 1/2 54 26
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’38.981 1.013 3/3 57 33
9 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1’39.040 1.072 1/2 50 35
10 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’39.586 1.618 1/1 66 27
11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’39.626 1.658 2/4 68 31
12 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’40.020 2.052 3/3 55 34
13 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1’40.301 2.333 3/3 30 34
14 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’40.363 2.395 4/5 90 7
15 18 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’40.454 2.486 4/4 71 32
16 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’40.531 2.563 1/5 48 37
17 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’42.083 4.115 2/2 34 34
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1’42.156 4.188 3/3 57 39
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1’42.239 4.271 3/4 73 25
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’42.273 4.305 1/1 89 21
21 25 Jerome D’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’42.809 4.841 2/3 38 35
22 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1’44.460 6.492 5/5 61 29
23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1’46.906 8.938 3/5 36 16

Speed trap

  • The McLaren drivers were using DRS again in this session
  • As we have seen before, Mercedes get especially good performance from their Drag Reduction System
# Driver Car Engine Max speed Gap
1 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes Mercedes 317.3
2 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes Mercedes 316.9 0.4
3 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari Ferrari 316.8 0.5
4 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams Cosworth 315.7 1.6
5 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams Cosworth 315.7 1.6
6 15 Paul di Resta Force India Mercedes 315.7 1.6
7 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault Renault 315.4 1.9
8 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault Renault 315.2 2.1
9 14 Adrian Sutil Force India Mercedes 315.1 2.2
10 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari Ferrari 314.9 2.4
11 4 Jenson Button McLaren Mercedes 314.5 2.8
12 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 314 3.3
13 18 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso Ferrari 313.6 3.7
14 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Renault 312.6 4.7
15 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Renault 312.5 4.8
16 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT Cosworth 312.3 5
17 25 Jerome D’Ambrosio Virgin Cosworth 312.2 5.1
18 17 Sergio Perez Sauber Ferrari 312.2 5.1
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus Renault 312.1 5.2
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus Renault 311.9 5.4
21 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT Cosworth 311.3 6
22 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber Ferrari 310.9 6.4
23 24 Timo Glock Virgin Cosworth 310.7 6.6

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52 comments on Hamilton: McLaren have “more pace up our sleeves”

  1. geo132 (@geo132) said on 24th June 2011, 17:48

    Pirelli’s expectations from the tires have not been that accurate “lately”. I got a feeling someone will do the race with only 1 pit stop..

    • The Last Pope said on 24th June 2011, 18:05

      They may try. But I could see them being defenseless to overtakes by the end of the race.

    • Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 24th June 2011, 18:25

      Going the opposite way, because it’s a street circuit I could see some drivers gambling on and thus forcing others into a three-stop race, a bit like how Turkey went from three to four stops. The two DRS zones may make that a viable option.

      But I would love to see a front-runner try 1 stop! What I find strange is that Pirelli think the soft will go 20 laps and the medium 30, that’s 50 of the 57 laps gone. So I wouldn’t bet against it.

      • mateuss (@mateuss) said on 24th June 2011, 18:55

        I would describe Valencia as “street circuit” rather than street circuit.

        • King Six said on 24th June 2011, 20:05

          There’s only two real street circuits on the calendar. Monaco and Singapore. The other circuits are more temporary than street. Not necessarily the same thing. Valencia doesn’t even have any road markings and was designed by Tilke, it’s not a street circuit.

        • Theoddkiwi said on 25th June 2011, 3:20

          Melbourne is a street circuit or rather its a Race track that half of it is used as a main road for the rest of the year and the another quarter is used a minor road. There is only a small section of Melbourne that you can’t drive on outside of race week.

          Believe me plenty of traffic use the track as a normal road, which is why some people get upset during the race weekend as they don’t have their nice little shortcut anymore.

        • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 25th June 2011, 7:36

          I would describe Valencia as “street circuit” rather than street circuit.
          The phrase “urban circuit” might be better.

      • geo132 (@geo132) said on 24th June 2011, 19:20

        that’s 50 of the 57 laps gone.

        That’s why I said this!
        Tires have lasted more than Pirelli’s expectations, and those 7 laps can be achieved quite easily..

        • The Last Pope said on 24th June 2011, 20:22

          Yes, although its whether the old tyres are still fast enough to compete with cars that are on much newer rubber.

          • BasCB (@bascb) said on 24th June 2011, 21:03

            I’d expect at least one Sauber to try the one stopper, and HRT very probably, maybe Virgin as well.

    • Fixy (@fixy) said on 25th June 2011, 9:39

      If someone will try, it will be the Saubers.

  2. ed24f1 (@ed24f1) said on 24th June 2011, 18:01

    With the Ferraris 2kph different in the speed trap, it will be interesting to see which direction they go in downforce wise.

  3. joac21 (@joac21) said on 24th June 2011, 18:54

    Mclaren its getting anoying they always are overhyping themselves

    • Polishboy808 (@polishboy808) said on 24th June 2011, 19:06

      Thank you, finally some one else sees this!

      • King Six said on 24th June 2011, 20:06

        I’ve been saying it for awhile too, I keep pointing out to people that according to McLaren they’ve been faster than Red Bull for two years now. Maybe more. It’s bordering on delusion.

    • Patrickl said on 24th June 2011, 21:09

      Which team hasn’t beaten their own drum?

      The fact that you hate McLaren means that it annoys you when they say it, but they don’t say it more than the others.

      • Polishboy808 (@polishboy808) said on 24th June 2011, 21:34

        NO other team (except maybe Red Bull) over advertise and over hype themselves. NO team.

        • Mike said on 24th June 2011, 23:22

          Except for Mercedes, Renault and well… Everyone down to HRT.

          Remember Kolles saying “HRT aims to beat Lotus”?

          • Fixy (@fixy) said on 25th June 2011, 9:42

            Remember Kolles saying “HRT aims to beat Lotus”?

            They aim at beating Lotus because they admit they are behind and they want to progress. But McLaren is saying that as they are now they’re faster than Red Bull.

        • Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 25th June 2011, 7:11

          I think RedBull are quite recluse in self promotion…. Their cars do the talking!

          • Todfod (@todfod) said on 25th June 2011, 8:42

            RB actually give the other teams some hope by not constantly talking up their advantage… and suddenly come quali and race they destroy them with ease.

  4. Dill said on 24th June 2011, 18:56

    yeeeaaaahhhh ok lewis…..

    you talk but dont walk.

  5. Oliver said on 24th June 2011, 19:06

    Mclaren can go quicker. Everyone can go quicker.

    • OldIron said on 24th June 2011, 20:30

      What Ham actually said (from hte rent-a-quote session) was basically the usual “its slippery, need to improve setup, we can go faster” stuff.

      That is, more or less what everyone was saying. It just looks a lot more dramatic quoted in isolation.

  6. ScottishNotBritish said on 24th June 2011, 19:22

    This really calls in to question Force India’s (and others) wisdom of running their third driver in P1.

    Because of Hulk’s crash Di Resta has only managed 3 fast laps all day. This is a bit ridiculous for a rookie who has never before raced at this circuit.

    I must say, though, that Di Resta has been coping with these pressures remarkably well.

    • timi said on 24th June 2011, 19:28

      to be fair he still has an hour in FP3, then q1, q2, and possibly q3.
      there’s at least an hour and a half for him to drive on before the race.
      and we’ve seen he’s very very quick at adapting to circuits and going fast in no time.
      Complain if he crashes on the first lap of the race.
      I hate it when people complain before there’s anything to complain about

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 24th June 2011, 19:29

      He has. I can’t imagine he’s under any pressure to really challenge for the podium, just to beat his team mate. He’s doing a great job of that. I’m sure he will be frustrated at not being at the wheel long enough today though.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 24th June 2011, 19:32

      It’s a double-edged sword: had they not given di Resta track time on Fridays last year, would he be doing as well as he is now he’s a full-time racer?

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 24th June 2011, 19:37

      I would add, the world championship’s stuck it in the barriers in practice twice already this year, so let’s not be too hard on HĂĽlkenberg.

  7. AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 24th June 2011, 19:31

    What a difference a couple of hours makes. Alonso was around .5s behind Webber on the FP1 ultimate lap timings (including 2 session best sectors) and he’s not .2s AHEAD of Webber? That’s a lot of downforce to find.

  8. mateuss (@mateuss) said on 24th June 2011, 19:38

    Damn, I only know noticed the “Select all | Select none” buttons after clicking 20 boxes! How long have they been there? :D

  9. mattr said on 24th June 2011, 20:00

    ive just watched hamiltons post p2 interview,and he thinks the expected hotter temps tomorrow will help them get the performance they need out of the hard tyre.we’ll have to wait and see tho.

  10. Tiomkin said on 24th June 2011, 21:12

    Keith, you are showing the Canadian flag in the main page header. Shouldn’t it be the Spanish flag or the European one?

  11. Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 24th June 2011, 23:09

    Today looked like a development day so you’d think so.

    Apparently they were testing this wing in Canada too. At the moment they’re looking to develop a wing that has a greater effect when the DRS is open but apparently this can lead to less efficiency in the closed position, so they’re trying to work out how to get the best of both worlds.

    If they’ve succeeded – and perhaps Hamilton is alluding to this – then it should give them an extra boost in qualifying.

  12. Frank said on 24th June 2011, 23:27

    Everyone can go quicker so it’s no news what Lewis is saying. Don’t understand why people argue about it either? I think it’s only because he is the one saying it..

    I think Vettel will be beaten for pole tommorrow by Alonso. I definetly hope so. The new rule for the engine mapping must hurt Red Bull’s pace in qualifying. I can’t imagine it doesn’t. I do hope Newey isn’t coming with another hole in the regulations on this.

    • Sally said on 25th June 2011, 0:09

      F1 is all about holes in the regulations. Seems like a lot of people need a reality check.

  13. INS (@ins) said on 25th June 2011, 2:00

    Don’t forget Webber. Remember he’s also in a Red Bull.

  14. Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 25th June 2011, 7:15

    Rumour has it Webber will be “flipping” quick come race time.

  15. SPIDERman (@spiderman) said on 25th June 2011, 8:01

    i can see a major DNF today from one or two redbulls…and the seven time world champion will be on pondium at number two.
    I pray..so help us me god…

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