Massa quickest as rain returns at Silverstone

2011 British GP second practice

Felipe Massa, Ferrari, Silverstone, 2011

Felipe Massa, Ferrari, Silverstone, 2011

Felipe Massa was fastest in the second practice session at Silverstone.

But Friday’s second 90 minutes of practice saw even wetter conditions than the first.

The weather had improved in the interval. But five minutes before the second session was due to start the heavens open and heavy rainfall doused the track.

A handful of cars came out as the session began, but they soon retreated back to the pits without setting a time.

As the rain continued to hammer down the track fell silent until more than half the 90 minutes had passed.

Finally the rain eased and cars began to appear on the circuit again, led by Jaime Alguersuari, who set the fastest time to begin with.

One by one further cars appeared. Nico Rosberg was among the first to follow, but he had a moment at Abbey and ran onto the run-off area.

The times continued to improve and made for an exciting ends to a session that had started very slowly.

In the end it was a question of which driver started their lap last. Felipe Massa snatched the quickest time with a 1’49.967.

Barely a few minutes earlier Michael Schumacher had set the quickest time. But the time improved so quckly he ended the session in 12th place.

Nico Rosberg took second place, seven-tenths of a second off Massa.

Kamui Kobayashi and Lewis Hamilton, the latter one of the last drivers to join the track, were third and fourth.

Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’49.967 9
2 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’50.744 0.777 16
3 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’51.395 1.428 16
4 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’51.438 1.471 6
5 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’51.518 1.551 6
6 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’51.738 1.771 18
7 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’51.781 1.814 7
8 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’51.992 2.025 13
9 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’52.169 2.202 12
10 18 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’52.189 2.222 21
11 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’52.198 2.231 9
12 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’52.325 2.358 12
13 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1’52.578 2.611 16
14 2 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’52.587 2.620 6
15 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’52.869 2.902 8
16 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1’54.023 4.056 8
17 19 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’54.274 4.307 16
18 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’54.545 4.578 4
19 25 Jerome D’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’54.714 4.747 13
20 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1’55.155 5.188 8
21 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1’55.155 5.188 12
22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’55.549 5.582 10
23 22 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1’55.828 5.861 10
24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1’56.037 6.070 6

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65 comments on Massa quickest as rain returns at Silverstone

  1. ed24f1 (@ed24f1) said on 8th July 2011, 14:44

    That would be a fascinating grid for the race!

    Anyway, a good job by Massa. He’s turned around his poor histories this year at Shanghai and Montreal, so maybe Silverstone’s next for him.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 8th July 2011, 14:48

      It would be pretty interesting to start off like that!

      The last 8 or so minutes were just about the part that made for good watching though. Poor 90000+ around on track today!

      • Bleeps_and_Tweaks (@bleeps_and_tweaks) said on 8th July 2011, 15:54

        I was thinking of going today but decided against it because of the weather forecasts. I have to say I would’ve been a bit annoyed with the lack of running, but the last 15-20 mins were good.

    • Luis said on 8th July 2011, 18:22

      Its an interesting result indeed. But it’s just Friday’s practice, and wet.

      Unfortunatelly tomorrow will be the same thing as the previous races.

    • Adam Tate (@adam-tate) said on 8th July 2011, 21:44

      He has seemed to up his game, it’s very nice to see. A pole is almost certainly out of the question, but I too would love to see this be the grid for Sunday!

  2. BasCB (@bascb) said on 8th July 2011, 14:50

    So what if Pirelli would bring an extra set of wets and intermediates for the Friday sessions?

    And promise a monetary bonus to the top 5 cars in lap count to help spur some on track action?

    • Fixy (@fixy) said on 8th July 2011, 15:00

      There should be a limited amount of tyres for the practice sessions and a limited one for qualifying and the race, so that each session is done independently.

      • AdrianMorse said on 8th July 2011, 15:05

        That would equal bringing more tyres; you would need at least five sets of inters for all sessions, and even then you would have to do qualy and race on one set each (has been done in 2005, I believe?).

    • AdrianMorse said on 8th July 2011, 15:01

      I think Pirelli should get a bit creative with transporting tyres to GPs. On a 3-day-rain weekend, four sets of inters is not enough (and three sets of wets – but as they pointed out on BBC 5 Live – they don’t actually use wets for the race because they drive behind the SC if it’s too wet), but it’s still a lot to carry around to venues where they don’t get used at all.

      Perhaps Pirelli should just put some tyres in some trucks and drive them in overnight (especially for the European races), so teams can use fresh rubber for Saturday and Sunday.

      • Luis said on 8th July 2011, 18:17

        Pirelli cannot afford the risk of running out of tyres during a race. So I believe they ship containers of them everywhere.

        Yes, it’s not very energy efficient, F1 is a wasteful sport regarding logistics.

    • timi said on 8th July 2011, 15:05

      So what if Pirelli would bring an extra set of wets and intermediates for the Friday sessions?

      And promise a monetary bonus to the top 5 cars in lap count to help spur some on track action?

      I dont think it would spur some on track action. The problem is FP1 and FP2 are mainly data-tracking runs. The new parts are always made for dry running. Because it’s wet, they can’t properly evaluate the new parts, and thus don’t need to run that many laps. You could give them 100 sets of wets and inters but it’s more about evaluating new parts, than just going around for fun

      • TheBrav3 said on 8th July 2011, 17:32

        I think extra money for the top 5 lappers teams would get more cars out. Especialy in the case of hispania virgin or williams who are on very tight budgets. As monisha kaltenborn said in p2 at valencia you can never have enough money.

        Short of making a rule about completeing a certain number of laps this is the only way teams would be persuaded to go out.

  3. Faraz said on 8th July 2011, 14:51

    I hope the Ferrari’s can take this pace into qualifying.

    • BBT (@bbt) said on 8th July 2011, 15:33

      What pace?
      They might have pace but Massa is mainly top due to running late on a drying track, hence RBR finishing where they have. It means nothing, but it would be nice if the grid was something like that.

      • TheBrav3 said on 8th July 2011, 17:36

        actually the top 11 cars were running the same tyres and set their times in the last 5 mins of the session massa finished top on merit.

        Granted redbull did not take part but that’s all redundent now because somehow renault, as in the engine manufacturer has persuaded the fia to give them a massive advantage with the off throttle rules. If the decision is not overturned *again* in the next 24 hours redbull will dominate by a bigger ammount than they have all season……

        • BBT (@bbt) said on 9th July 2011, 9:01

          actually the top 11 cars were running the same tyres and set their times in the last 5 mins of the session massa finished top on merit

          and the track was dramatically different in those last five minutes it was changing with each car that passed. At the beginning of the 5 minutes you speak of the track was 3 seconds slower. Even running 20 seconds later in the last minute difference had a massive difference, which is my point.

    • Alky said on 8th July 2011, 19:09

      I don’t get why people ever think that practice results mean anything.

      Every time mercedes or ferrari (or whoever) set “fast” practice times, they are praised for their improved pace. Then when qualifying comes, everything goes back to the way it was at the previous race. And so on.

  4. sw6569 (@sw6569) said on 8th July 2011, 14:55

    Schumacher was comfortably the fastest on the wet tyre.

    He’s looking good this weekend.

    • Fixy (@fixy) said on 8th July 2011, 15:01

      If it rains I think he can pull out a surprise result, maybe with the help of some retirements ahead of him.

      • Mike said on 8th July 2011, 15:12

        I really, really, really want it to rain.

        But it’s meant to dry up as the weekend progresses.

        • Will said on 8th July 2011, 16:11

          I used to think that, but after Canada it looks likely that wet = safety car laps.

          There is a nice middle ground where its not dry but not wet either, just a bit slippery, and they are free to race. I would rather it stay dry and we just got a full distance proper race to be honest.

        • Fixy (@fixy) said on 8th July 2011, 18:21

          I don’t know – Michael can benefit from that, but for Felipe I still remember his 2008 race here.

      • Sound_Of_Madness said on 8th July 2011, 17:23

        Retirements? Difficult to happen IMO, these cars are very reliable, and it’s not like you can expect many mistakes from the guys in front either.

    • TheBrav3 said on 8th July 2011, 17:38

      schumacher dominated nico today. How ever his chances of getting a podium have been substantialy reduced in the last 2 hours see my above post.

  5. electrolite (@electrolite) said on 8th July 2011, 14:58

    Getting a good time this practice would have been about getting out at the right time. They’re about 2 seconds off practice one!

  6. SennaNmbr1 (@sennanmbr1) said on 8th July 2011, 14:59

    20 lap minimum running in all practice sessions is needed IMO.

    • AdrianMorse said on 8th July 2011, 15:04

      More rules is not what F1 needs, and certainly not ones that are hard to check (what if there’s a problem on your car?).

      I agree with you though that something must be done to put on a show for thousands of fans getting cold in the rain.

      • Mike said on 8th July 2011, 15:23

        something must be done to put on a show

        That would be even more pointless and ridiculous than the mandatory pit stop rule.

      • PaulM said on 8th July 2011, 15:27

        What about getting Bernie to stump up some extra cash at the end of the season, for the teams who rack up the most laps during the FP sessions. Reliability issues would be the teams concern, not FOM’s.

    • VXR said on 8th July 2011, 15:26

      For what purpose?

      • TheBrav3 said on 8th July 2011, 17:41

        for extra money for the teams which alot of them desperatly need. Plus extra fun for the fans which if you talked to any of the guys sat in the stands for 3 hours today and that was just for the f1 they would all agree.

  7. SennaNmbr1 (@sennanmbr1) said on 8th July 2011, 15:10

    If there’s a technical problem then obviously you’d have to be exempted. But there definitely should be some way of getting cars on track when it’s raining. If spectators stop turning up then there probably won’t be any F1 for much longer.

  8. PaulM said on 8th July 2011, 15:10

    According to Sarah Holt, Lewis Hamilton has been called to the stewards office. Wonder what that is all about…

  9. driftin said on 8th July 2011, 15:10

    “Lewis Hamilton has to go to see the stewards after practice. No news on why”

    According to Sarah Holt’s Twitter feed.

  10. Tom said on 8th July 2011, 15:12

    Congradulations to Ricciardo for beating Liuzzi. Not a bad effort for your first time in the car.

  11. Jeff said on 8th July 2011, 15:19

    another lap or two and massa would have been spinning like a top!

  12. KeeleyObsessed (@keeleyobsessed) said on 8th July 2011, 15:22

    I am feeling that the Mercedes is a lot better around this track at the moment… MSC’s time was set on extreme wets, the fastest person to do so… They do seem to be more consistent in practice.. Although I’ll have to wait for the analysis to confirm whether I’m right…

    • wasiF1 said on 8th July 2011, 15:29

      Mercedes always have good quali pace it’s the early race pace with heavy fuel is where they always struggled.

      • TheBrav3 said on 8th July 2011, 17:43

        Only if your name is nico rosberg, schumacher has made more places off the line than any other driver this year.

        • Burnout said on 8th July 2011, 19:24

          But that’s only at the start. By lap 2 there’s usually a pretty big gap between the Merc cars and whatever is ahead of them. Sort of like the old Trulli Trains.

        • wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 9th July 2011, 1:52

          Yeah he made better start then any driver but what about after couple of laps? The rear tyres looses it’s grip faster then any other car.

  13. Troid91 (@troid91) said on 8th July 2011, 15:25

    hope Massa doing well this weekend. Jeff, who cares about your opinion.

  14. wasiF1 said on 8th July 2011, 15:26

    Good to see that they had Kobayashi’s car fixed.

  15. Felipe Bomeny (@portugoose) said on 8th July 2011, 16:13

    It’s been quite a while since I’ve seen the headline “Massa quickest”. Hopefully, this is a positive sign of better things to come from the Little Brazilian.

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