Massa makes 100 Ferrari starts but no podium

2011 Brazilian GP stats and facts

Michael Schumacher, Felipe Massa, Fernando Alonso, Rubens Barrichello, Interlagos, 2011

Michael Schumacher, Felipe Massa, Fernando Alonso, Rubens Barrichello, Interlagos, 2011

Felipe Massa made his 100th start for Ferrari in the Brazilian Grand Prix.

During the race weekend Ferrari presented him with a cake and signed engine cover which also marked ten years since his F1 debut.

He is the tenth different driver to start 100 races with the same team:

Driver Starts Team
Michael Schumacher 180 Ferrari
David Coulthard 150 McLaren
Jacques Laffite 132 Ligier
Mika H?‚?Ůkkinen 131 McLaren
Alain Prost 107 McLaren
Nelson Piquet 106 Brabham
Fernando Alonso 105 Renault
Pierluigi Martini 102 Minardi
Rubens Barrichello 102 Ferrari
Felipe Massa 100 Ferrari

However he didn’t have much to celebrate during the race. He failed to better his season-best finishing position of fifth, meaning he ended the year with no podiums, while team mate Fernando Alonso has scored ten including victory at Silverstone.

The last Ferrari driver to go an entire season without finishing on the podium was Didier Pironi in 1981. Team mate Gilles Villeneuve finished on the podium three times that year, including two wins.

Vettel claims pole record

Sebastian Vettel made a new record for the most pole positions in a single season, setting his 15th of the year on Saturday.

He set pole in 78.95% of races this year which is the fifth-highest strike rate of all time:

Year Driver Poles Starts Strike rate
1992 Nigel Mansell 14 16 87.5%
1993 Alain Prost 13 16 81.25%
1989 Ayrton Senna 13 16 81.25%
1988 Ayrton Senna 13 16 81.25%
2011 Sebastian Vettel 15 19 78.95%
1956 Juan Manuel Fangio 6 8 75%

Vettel needed two more pole positions this year to beat Mansell’s strike rate.

This was Vettel’s 30th career pole position which means only five drivers in F1 history have made more starts from first place than he has:

Driver Poles Starts Strike rate
Michael Schumacher 68 286 23.78%
Ayrton Senna 65 161 40.37%
Jim Clark 33 72 45.83%
Alain Prost 33 199 16.58%
Nigel Mansell 32 187 17.11%
Sebastian Vettel 30 81 37.04%
Juan Manuel Fangio 29 51 56.86%

Mark Webber’s first win of the year means five different drivers won races in 2011. It was his seventh win, giving him as many as Juan Pablo Montoya and Rene Arnoux.

That gave Red Bull their 27th win, putting them level with Benetton in the list of all-time winners:

Team Wins Starts Strike rate
Ferrari 216 831 25.99%
McLaren 175 703 24.89%
Williams 113 572 19.76%
Lotus 79 529 14.93%
Brabham 35 394 8.88%
Renault 35 300 11.67%
Benetton 27 260 10.38%
Red Bull 27 126 21.43%

Webber also took his 13th fastest lap, putting him level with Jacky Ickx, Alan Jones and Riccardo Patrese – and leaving him four ahead of his team mate. It was Webber’s seventh fastest lap of the year, the most of any driver.

For the third year in a row the pole sitter failed to win the Brazilian Grand Prix. The last four races at Interlagos have all seen a different constructor on pole position: Red Bull, Williams, Brawn and Ferrari. Unusually, McLaren’s last pole position here was Mika Hakkinen’s in 2000.

Jan Charouz made his first appearance in an F1 race weekend when he drove for HRT during practice. He is only the second driver from the Czech Republic to appear in an F1 weekend, the other being Tomas Enge, who started three races for Prost in 2001.

Goodbye to Renault and Virgin

It was the 300th and last race for Renault before the team takes over Lotus’s identity in 2012.

Since they first appeared in F1 in 1977 the team has recorded 35 wins, 51 pole positions and two constructors’ championships. The drivers’ championship has been claimed by a Renault driver on two occasions: Alonso’s back-to-back triumphs in 2005 and 2006.

Virgin also made their last appearance before transforming into Marussia in time for next season. Since entering F1 at the beginning of last year they hold the record for making the most race starts (38) without scoring a point. HRT are behind them on 37, having failed to start this year’s Australian Grand Prix.

That covers off the stats for this weekend’s race but there’s much more to come in the F1 Fanatic 2011 season review, starting here soon.

In the meantime you can review some of the season statistics so far here:

Spotted any other interesting stats and facts from the Brazilian Grand Prix? Share them in the comments.

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81 comments on Massa makes 100 Ferrari starts but no podium

  1. Journeyer (@journeyer) said on 28th November 2011, 9:51

    It’s a scary thought that Vettel will almost definitely have the 3rd-most poles of all time by next year. All time! And he’d just be… 25?

    • I was just thinking that. Its mental.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 28th November 2011, 10:19

      The impressive thing is he’s not just getting it by dint of making more starts, he’s not far off Senna’s strike rate.

      Of course you need a car that’s capable of it, but as we saw recently it’s not as if he’s driving an FW14B:

      Vettel and Mansell’s 14 pole positions in a season compared

      It is a shame that the ‘race fuel qualifying’ disrupts the statistics for part of Schumacher’s peak, though. At least they got rid of it in the end.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 28th November 2011, 10:27

        Off course Schumacher’s strike rate is going down now with every race as well (he is down by almost 5% since his comback).

      • APSANCOC said on 29th November 2011, 3:51

        To be honest the most interesting statistic out of all of that is…

        Ferrari 25.99%
        McLaren 24.89%
        Red Bull 21.43%

        Williams 19.76%
        Lotus 14.93%
        Renault 11.67%
        Benetton 10.38%
        Brabham 8.88%

        Ferrari and McLaren are the only two teams to have higher wins per starts. It just shows how competitive Red Bull have been, especially given that they didn’t get a win till their 5′s car. In other words out of their 7 cars to date, 4 didn’t win anything. So 42.8% of their cars have had such a high number of wins that they have boosted RBR’s ratio from 0% up to the 3rd highest with less than half their cars!

        To put it another way

        It has been 53 races since RBR’s first win (China 2009), since then they have won 27, or more than half (50.9%) of the races! And that’s including that Brawn thing!

        In the past two season’s (the start of the ‘dominance’ period, even including the stuff ups in 2010), they have won 21 out of 38 races!

        I find that to be by far more interesting that Vettel winning or putting the car on pole as it shows just how dominant the car has been.

        • Gridlock (@gridlock) said on 30th November 2011, 16:40

          You’re forgetting to add in Stewart and Jaguar’s race starts to the Red Bull percentage, I think. It’s not a fair comparison really.

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 2nd December 2011, 9:33

            But then you’d have some confusion over the mess that is Tyrell/BAR/Honda/Brawn/Mercedes. You’d also have Renault who competed in the 70′s/80′s and pulled out in 1985. But at the same time there was Toleman competing, who were taken over by Benetton and then Renault. Oh, but now they’re Lotus, who have also been at the back of the grid and are about to become Caterham.

            Red Bull just isn’t Stewart or Jaguar.

        • F1fanNL (@) said on 30th November 2011, 21:12

          Without Vettel, that would have been about 10 out of 38.

          Your point?

    • KoolKieren (@koolkieren) said on 28th November 2011, 10:44

      I respect that this is a good statistic, but you have to feel that when there is was no other car that is capable of challenging for pole for the majority of races this statistic is being given to him.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 28th November 2011, 10:47

        Something that was pretty much true for Mansell as well, and Senna in his two strongest years as well (doubt its been much different for the other top pole setters, at least for part of their career)

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 28th November 2011, 10:51

        @koolkieren As I just said, though, that’s not always been the case this year. Look at Suzuka, for example. It’s easy to over-state the advantage Vettel’s had, and overlook the fact that he’s not the only driver with an RB7 at his disposal. Indeed, the other guy used to be considered something of a one-lap specialist.

        • 91jb12 (@91jb12) said on 28th November 2011, 11:36

          absolutely, I don’t think Webber has ‘lost it’ all of a sudden. his lap on saturday was very good (as he said)

        • APSANCOC said on 29th November 2011, 3:55

          Webber used to be considered a one lap specialist with Michilin’s with grooves. Lost it a bit Bridgestones, lost it a bit with slicks, lost it massively with Pirelli’s.

          His lap on saturday showed he has been learning and improving the tyres, although one has to note who the teammates are. Patrease wasn’t exactly challenging Mansell. Webber hasn’t been. Prost was more of a race over one lap.

  2. Thanks Keith for all your brilliant facts and stats articles after every race – the highlight of the weekend :D

  3. Marco_ferrari said on 28th November 2011, 10:03

    “The last Ferrari driver to go an entire season without finishing on the podium was Didier Pironi in 1981″

    What about Ivan Capelli? Or is it here the keyword “entire”? :)

  4. BasCB (@bascb) said on 28th November 2011, 10:21

    I always love these statistics articles. Surely the most points ever were also scored, due to the current points system. The spead in points this year was really pretty little, a big chunk of it was only the first 5 in the Championship.

    • Jelle van der Meer (@jelle-van-der-meer) said on 28th November 2011, 11:22

      Shame that Keith actually missed that one – counting all races of a year and ignoring different point systems – Vettel has the 2nd highest % point score possible.

      2002 MSC scored 144 out of 170 = 84.7%
      2011 Vettel scored 392 out of 475 = 82.5%
      2004 MSC scored 148 out of 180 = 82.2%

      A 4th place in Abu Dahbi would have been sufficient as Vettel comes 11 points short to beat MSC % of 2002

  5. AdrianMorse (@adrianmorse) said on 28th November 2011, 10:27

    With regard to McLaren’s last pole position in 2000, it is surprising that if you look at the races since 2007 (my memory of earlier races is too hazy), they have struggled at this track, with the possible exception of 2009.

  6. smifaye (@smifaye) said on 28th November 2011, 10:27

    Should the pole position table, where Mansell is at the top have the column “Poles” instead of “starts”?

  7. RBAlonso (@rbalonso) said on 28th November 2011, 11:17

    Looking back at Prost’s stats, he’s ‘only’ got 33 poles out of 199 starts but 13 our of 16 in 1993. 51 wins but at the end of his first career he only had a pole percentage of 10.9 (20/183). I think this shows what a great racer Prost was, and that racecraft is as importantly as raw pace.

  8. Andrew81 (@andrew81) said on 28th November 2011, 11:24

    Four of the last five races were won from second on the grid.

    Webber’s win ends the 25-race run of races being won by the same four drivers (Vettel, Button, Hamilton, Alonso). This means it fell one short of the record (26 races between Portugal 1987 and US 1989, won by Prost, Senna, Berger and Mansell) and is joint second with Japan 2006-Monaco 2008 (Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen, Hamilton).

    The quintet of Webber, Button, Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso have collectively won the last 42 races. The last driver other than these five to win was Barrichello in Italy 2009. There is still some way to go for the record to be broken, as it stands at 53 (Brazil 1986-US 1989, won by Piquet, Senna, Prost, Mansell and Berger).

    Similarly, the dominance of Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari in this 42-race period is the third longest by three teams. The record stands at 58 races, set by Benetton, McLaren and Williams between Japan 1990 and Britain 1994. If the status quo continues throughout 2012, both records could be broken.

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 28th November 2011, 12:30

      Webber ruined what would have been a ‘perfect’ season. Up until yesterday every race had been won by an existing champion, something which has never happened before in F1.

    • Alex (@smallvizier) said on 28th November 2011, 18:44

      Wow – that really puts into perspective how far ahead of the other teams the current front-runners are. I really wouldn’t have thought that, by some measures, the RB/McLaren/Ferrari unit we have at the front is amongst the most dominant F1 has ever seen!

      It also makes it a bit more understandable that the smaller teams are taking a while to find their feet. In this era of reasonably low car development (frozen engines, strict aero etc.), it’s just that much harder to make it up through the pack.

  9. Jim1601 (@jim1601) said on 28th November 2011, 11:38

    I love these stats articles, satisfies the f1 geek in me!!

  10. Webber was first driver since Montoya (2004) to take his only victory in the final race of the season. In total it has been done 15 times now, but many of them happened when there were less races. When the season has had at least 15 Grand Prix (since 1973 with the exception of 1975 and 1980), it was eighth time:

    1976 Andretti
    1978 Villeneuve
    1982 Alboreto
    1983 Patrese
    1994 Mansell
    1997 Häkkinen
    2004 Montoya
    2011 Webber

  11. tobinen (@tobinen) said on 28th November 2011, 12:14

    Did I hear Coulthard correctly when he said that Rubens Barrichello has started a third of all F1 starts?

  12. Also I see it quite funny that three times in last four races (Korea, India, Brazil) fastest lap has been set by the winner on the final lap, while I don’t remember it happening very much before.

    • F1fanNL (@) said on 30th November 2011, 21:20

      That clearly shows the teams and more importantly, the drivers no longer fear the tires will fall off the cliff.

      Pirelli! Time to make those tires out of used toilet paper!!

  13. McLarenFanJamm (@mclarenfanjamm) said on 28th November 2011, 12:16

    Don’t Virgin/Marussia share the record for most starts without a point with Team Lotus/Caterham/Air Asia/Fernandes Racing?

  14. GameR_K (@gamer_k) said on 28th November 2011, 12:47

    Only the second time WEB has finished ahead of SEB, when both have finished this season. BUT did it 7 times, and MAS twice.
    Out of a total opoints for all the races (19*101) VET has 392 out of 1919, which itself is 20.4%.
    If the constructors points for teams below top 3 is taken, they outscore VET by only 5 points.
    RedBull had only 2 mechanical DNF’s over the entire season.
    Also SEB is the only driver to not pit for a front wing change during a race in the entire season *unless someone comes up with some other name*

  15. sato113 (@sato113) said on 28th November 2011, 12:54

    great stats keith! how about goodbye to team lotus as well?

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