Mark Webber, Red Bull, Nurburgring, 2011

2011 German Grand Prix grid

2011 German Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Row 1 1. Mark Webber 1’30.079
Red Bull
2. Lewis Hamilton 1’30.134
Row 2 3. Sebastian Vettel 1’30.216
Red Bull
4. Fernando Alonso 1’30.442
Row 3 5. Felipe Massa 1’30.91
6. Nico Rosberg 1’31.263
Row 4 7. Jenson Button 1’31.288
8. Adrian Sutil 1’32.01
Force India
Row 5 9. Vitaly Petrov 1’32.187
10. Michael Schumacher 1’32.482
Row 6 11. Nick Heidfeld 1’32.215
12. Paul di Resta 1’32.56
Force India
Row 7 13. Pastor Maldonado 1’32.635
14. Rubens Barrichello 1’33.043
Row 8 15. Sergio Perez 1’33.176
16. Jaime Alguersuari 1’33.698
Toro Rosso
Row 9 17. Kamui Kobayashi No time
18. Heikki Kovalainen 1’35.599
Row 10 19. Timo Glock 1’36.4
20. Karun Chandhok 1’36.422
Row 11 21. Jerome D’Ambrosio 1’36.641
22. Daniel Ricciardo 1’37.036
Row 12 23. Vitantonio Liuzzi* 1’37.011
24. Sebastien Buemi** 1’33.546
Toro Rosso

*Five-place penalty for gearbox change.
**Sent to the back of the grid for a technical infringement.

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47 comments on “2011 German Grand Prix grid”

  1. lap of the year from lewis??

  2. GREAT qualifying. Easily the best of the year, as that was actually a fight. Where the heck did Hamilton find that pace? Compare that to Button’s usual excuse of no grip.

    1. There was a close 4 way fight for pole in Sepang, remember.

      1. I remember that. Mostly because the FOM director stayed with Alonso for the full lap, and we only saw the last two corners of everyone else’s lap.

      2. I forgot. It’s been a while since that’s happened.

  3. All of sudden Lewis came in to fight very strongly.. seems closest qualifying we have seen this season & it is going to mix up things lot in race..looking forward to it.

  4. I expect Hamilton will stay between the Red Bulls until the first corner. And then I expect that will be the last he sees of them.

    1. Meaning he goes backwards or forwards?

      1. Sideways. Diagonally.

        Of course I mean backwards.

        1. With McLaren’s race pace? No chance. and if it rains? He’ll walk it ;)

      2. He crashes maybe?

        1. or Red Bulls crash :D

    2. I cannot understand

      1. I mean that while Hamilton’s efforts to split the Red Bulls were admirable, I don’t think he’s going to be able to put up much of a fight tomorrow – Webber will stay in front and Vettel will catch him by the first corner.

        1. Well, considering (usually) bad starter Webber and (usually) good starter Hamilton…I don’t think so.

          1. So, by you logic, one thing will happen because it has happened that way before, yes?

            Well, until today, Sebastian Vettel had qualified on the front row at every race this season. Continuing with your logic, Vettel should be on the front row simply because he has always been on the front row.

            Lewis Hamilton has evidently learned some new tricks this weekend. Neither Webber nor Vettel are the kind of person to mark time while the others catch up. No doubt Webber is conscious of his starting situation, and will be looking to remedy it.

          2. I think it’s more logical than your guess ;)

          3. Agreed Eggry

          4. nothing wrong with Webbers reactions, his starts have been bogging down after. Career long Webber canes himself publicly on his clutch/throttle mistakes off the line. Haven’t heard it lately? neither have the rest of us.

          5. I hope that Webber gets his usual bad start Eggry, and if Vettel doesn’t lead, Alonso or even Massa does :)

          6. It would be much better! though I don’t think it’s likely.

        2. And Alonso will do nothing as he is Darth Vader personified and Massa will do nothing as he is Darth Maul. Jst putting that one out there y’know…. ;-)

          1. Haha Star Wars analogies :)
            Who’s Luke then, Hamilton or Vettel, cos Alonso is their daddy :P lmao

  5. Rosberg – SCH: Q1: -.2s; Q2: .8s; Q3: 1.2s – Schumacher really dropping the ball somewhere as qualifying progresses compared to Rosberg.

    1. Actually, Rosberg was only .08 faster in Q3, but Schumacher was .3s slower, so Schumacher really did something wrong there.

      1. You could see Michael stuggling to keep the car on track all weekend.

    2. In Q1 Rosberg was in the drop zone and had to do a lap without taking too much of a risk, that’s why he was behind MSC. In Q2 it was the other way round. Q3 MSC ran out of fresh soft tires.

      Schumacher seems definitely slower but the gap is not that big.

      1. Q3 MSC ran out of fresh soft tires.

        So, he used up all his fresh softs, but only qualified 10th? Bad weekend in the making :(

        1. No, I meant that he used an additional set in Q2 than originally planned and so wore a used set in his Q3 run.
          I was saying that out of the gap between his Q2 and Q3 times, the usual fall of a soft tire in its 2nd lap as seen in practice sessions.

          But I was wrong, it seems he just made another mistake in his Q3 run, again in the final corners.

  6. Even the battle in q2 was nerve racking. I was on the edge of my seat.

    Webber. Wow.

  7. Lewis’s lap in Q3 was similar to Alonso’s in Spain. Though going by the sector times,hats off to McL for having found a brilliant setup for the Castrol hairpin which determines the first sector.

    1. At least with Hamilton, seems that Button couldn’t use that. He said they turned down his front downforce a bit attempting to get better balance, but instead he just got understeer and unchanged back; Maybe Hamilton can just deal with that better, he likes to push and pull the car around the track.

      1. Makes sense because “smooth” Button cannot diamond a corner and then use exit oversteer to turn the car. Or he just doesn’t want to drive a sloppy car like that. But when you are leaving a second on the track, you have to just get on with it. It’s moments like these that give Button the reputation that he is only quick when he has a very stable car.

  8. @bosyber:True,and great to see Vettel of the front row too

  9. Now Webber need good start not to spoil his another pole. also I wish Alonso jump Vettel at the start. I want non-Vettel podium!

    1. I reckon Alonso will be far more willing to take a chance into the first corner than Vettel, it could be quite an interesting start tomorrow.

      1. 1st corner should be interesting.

  10. So since off-throttle exhaust boost mapping has been fixed for qualifying it’s Vettel 1 and Webber 2, the plot thickens, anyone for a good conspiracy?

    1. Speaking of conspiracy, perhaps Red Bull gives Webber inferior engine mapping? Well, I think it’s much more down to characteristic of circuits. or some update make cars unstable so maybe Webber is dealing with it better?

      1. Or maybe Webber just took longer to get used to the new Pirelli tires and now that he has is competing very well with Vettel.
        BTW what a stunning lap by Lewis, not only stunning final lap but full Qualifying considering the car and his team mate was just Unbelievable.

        1. OR they didn;t want webber bothering Vettel’s championship push this year, but now that Vettel has his big points lead, the two cn actually race in even cars again.

          Mark, your KERS is not working do you understand? Mark, your gearbox is playing up you have to turn the engine down, do you understand. Mark, your car is using too much fuel, we have to turn the engine mapping down, do you understand.

          Horner’s excuses about Vettel being asked not to pass if he was in Mark’s position at the British GP smack of BS, if that was the case, why would Vettel have not been told the EXACT same thing before he tried to pass Webber at Turkey last year (FAIL)….. And that was when it was PROVEN that they asked Mark to turn his engine down on those laps in turkey at the same time as they told Vettel he could turn his UP????

          Dodgy Dodgy Red Bull, Mark go to Ferrari, seriously you would get a better deal there mate!

  11. Hope it rain but not at the start of the race.
    Because I want to see 24 cars.going into the tricky
    First corner

  12. Anything but a start behind the Safety Car, please.

    1. I agree, I still don’t understand why they start behind behind a safety car now when one spot of rain lands on the track. They never used to – and I’m not talking about the 50s or something. Since I’ve been watching that has changed (10 years ish).

      1. I could understand it in Canada, as they have little experience of it in the wet, and water stays on it long. And it was the first time on the pirelli wets (still was out far to long).
        But after that it should be normal starts except for really exceptional rain.

        1. You just have to read this blog, there are always a few posters bleating about how someone could get killed due to open cockpits or high speeds and yes wet tracks, no matter how long the odds once someone brings it up the organisers feel they have to protect their backsides. So man up guys, if the drivers aren’t complaining neither should we.

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